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Dems Have A Plan: Push Hard on Climate Change

Dems Have A Plan: Push Hard on Climate Change

“The science is settled even if political opinion is not.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aa8nyraJQA4

Democrats are setting up the table with a new narrative for 2019 and 2020. It is increasingly apparent that they’re planning a hard push on climate change. It’s all about the “Green New Deal” being advanced by Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

It’s not difficult to see where this is headed. There have been some blatant examples of setting the new narrative in the last few days.

One was Chuck Todd of Meet the Press, who devoted his show Sunday to climate change and announced that “deniers” would not be given airtime.

Victor Morton writes at the Washington Times:

NBC News host says no air time for climate ‘deniers’ on “Meet the Press’: ‘Science is settled’

NBC News has decided that climate change is no longer an issue that has two sides.

Sunday’s episode of “Meet the Press” with Chuck Todd featured an hourlong panel with lawmakers and scientists about the consequences of climate change. But at the start, Mr. Todd said his show is “not going to give time to climate deniers” and went on to inaccurately characterize the nature of the climate debate.

“Just as important as what we are going to do is what we’re not going to do,” he said. “We’re not going to debate climate change, the existence of it. The earth is getting hotter, and human activity is a major cause. Period.”

“We’re not going to give time to climate deniers,” Mr. Todd added. “The science is settled even if political opinion is not.”

Skeptics about some of the most alarmist climate-change scenarios drawn by former Vice President Al Gore and other Democratic and left-wing politicians bristle at the word “denier,” claiming it implies parallels to people who claim the Holocaust or the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks didn’t happen.

Todd is clearing the decks for AOC and the new House Democrats. He is clearly signalling that questioning the new agenda will be off-limits.

One of his guests was California Governor Jerry Brown, who compared the issue of climate change to the challenges we faced in World War II.

Ben Kamisar reports at NBC News:

Jerry Brown: Climate change challenges as serious as those faced in World War II

California Democratic Gov. Jerry Brown warned that America and the rest of the world are falling behind in the fight against climate change and likened the challenge to fighting the Nazis in World War II.

In an interview for Sunday’s “Meet the Press,” the outgoing governor called on President Donald Trump to take the lead in addressing the issue. “Instead of worrying about tariffs, I’d like to see the president and the Congress invest tens of billions in renewable energy, in more-efficient batteries, to get us off fossil fuel as quickly as we can,” Brown said.

“I would point to the fact that it took Roosevelt many, many years to get America willing to go into World War II and fight the Nazis. Well, we have an enemy, though different, but perhaps, very much devastating in a similar way. And we’ve got to fight climate change. And the president’s got to lead on that.”

And what does the “Green New Deal” look like? Gird your loins.

Justin Haskins writes at FOX News:

If Ocasio-Cortez’s ‘Green New Deal’ succeeds in 2019 it will be the most radical plan offered in decades

Although the broad talking points of the plan have been circulating for months, it wasn’t until recently that Ocasio-Cortez provided any details of her proposal. On December 3, according to The Atlantic, Ocasio-Cortez spoke at a town hall led by Sanders and declared, “This is going to be the New Deal, the Great Society, the moon shot, the civil-rights movement of our generation.”

The specifics have still not been worked out, but what we know so far about her plan is that it would have catastrophic economic consequences, dramatically increase America’s already skyrocketing debt, and transform the United States into a European-style socialist nation. (And no, these are not exaggerations.)

In a draft resolution to create a House select committee that would be responsible for writing the Green New Deal legislation, Ocasio-Cortez outlines the primary goals of her plan. Among them, Ocasio-Cortez proposes eliminating all fossil-fuel-powered electricity, closing every coal and natural gas power plant in the country, thus destroying the hundreds of thousands of jobs related to these businesses. Even more stunning, all this would occur by 2030, just 10 years after Ocasio-Cortez expects the legislation to be completed.

In its place, nearly all energy would be produced by renewable sources of power, especially wind and solar. This goal would create massive amounts of economic harm. Although economists have yet to provide an analysis of Ocasio-Cortez’s proposal to eliminate all fossil fuels, other studies have found less-extreme policies would be absolutely devastating.

This battle isn’t in our distant future. It begins the day the Democrats are handed the keys to the House and they will surely have the media on their side. Get ready.

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Makes sense, the Dems want to destroy the world economy and end prosperity once and for all.

I see Amazon has yellow vests on sale by the 100-s

Man-made, global warming is, and has always been, a scam designed to transfer economic wealth from developed nations to developing and undeveloped nations, by forcing manufacturing from developed to under developed nations. There is NO verified evidence to support the theory that human action is impacting planet-wide environmental conditions to any measurable degree. If there was, the various global warming accords only apply to longtime industrialized nations. The largest polluter in the world, China, is exempt from restrictions applied to industrial nations.

A combination of insane, tree-hugging liberals, America haters and short sighted power grabbers compose the current Democrat party. It is no wonder that the Dems are pushing man-made climate change.

    CDR D in reply to Mac45. | January 1, 2019 at 6:11 pm

    Every once in awhile they come clean. There are many other examples.

    Ottmar Edenhofer, who co-chaired the U.N.’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) working group on Mitigation of Climate Change from 2008 to 2015:

    “One has to free oneself from the illusion that international climate policy is environmental policy. This has almost nothing to do with the environmental policy anymore, with problems such as deforestation or the ozone hole …… We redistribute de facto the world’s wealth by climate policy.”

    PilotDave in reply to Mac45. | January 1, 2019 at 9:46 pm

    “settled science” is political, not science – They only cite the supply side, not the demand side of CO2 (Plant food), They only talk about the affects on temperature from CO2 raise, never the affects on agriculture (Every greenhouse operator knows increased CO2 = increased crop yield.)

    There are two very simple facts the Liberals will not acknowledge:

    #1 This Earth can only sustain 2 billion people without burning fossil fuel – John Deere does not run on batteries… so, what to do with 5 billion dead bodies?

    #2 The “deal” Trump wisely backed us out of would have taxed USA and sent this money to the #1 and #4 producers of CO2 – Chairman Mao’s China, and India…

    Most importantly, the Earth can only sustain 2 billion people without burning fossil fuel, so what are they going to do with the 5 – 6 billion corpse ? John Deer doesn’t run on batteries.

    Miles in reply to Mac45. | January 1, 2019 at 10:17 pm

    Don’t neglect to consider the amount of $$ that sticks to the hands of those purported tree-huggers and power grabbers as they pass it along.

    If graft wasn’t a big part of the plan, it wouldn’t see the light of day.

Antifundamentalist | January 1, 2019 at 1:23 pm

Climates do change. That’s nature in action and has been happening since the dawn of time. Instead of pushing climate change and all it’s inherent controversy, push “clean up our mess.” It’s the same damn result without leaving room for scams and arguments.

    Did you all hear Al Gore screaming at the sky this morning? You see, the USA is the main place on Earth for this “severe weather” thing called a “tornado” – We started tracking them in 1950. Last night, struck the end of 2018, and we had ZERO Cat 4 and ZERO cat 5 tornados…. first time ever, since recording them in 1950….

    So, Global warming was a LIE, so they changed it to “Climate Change” saying we would have “More severe weather” due to man’s use of hydrocarbon fuels….

    WRONG again.

as it has been said many times and many places ‘when the person pushing agw act like agw is happening then I will listen.’

I cannot understand how the drilling in Antarctica showed that the frozen area that was drilled in was once a desert and then frozen. Repeat over and over again for millions of years. Why can’t they see that the Earth has been changing since the day it was formed and will continue to no matter what the little humans think or do. We had the “Little ice age” from 1300 AD to 1850 but the AGW crowd seems to overlook that whenever they talk about climate change.

    Mike H. in reply to inspectorudy. | January 1, 2019 at 5:43 pm

    Their one aim is to control Carbon. Carbon is an essential component of food (sugars), the fuel (methane based) to heat yourself and fuel to transport materials and people.

    If they can gain control of that then they have control of life in terms of human kind. Think of the Holodomor (to kill by starvation-Ukraine deriv.) and the Great Leap Forward.

      PilotDave in reply to Mike H.. | January 1, 2019 at 9:52 pm

      Most importantly, the Earth can only sustain 2 billion people without burning fossil fuel, so what are they going to do with the 5 – 6 billion corpse ? John Deer doesn’t run on batteries.

So the Dems are wanting to back a plan that tells us what to drive, what to eat, how often we can fly, what we are permitted to say, and demands far more of our money in taxes. Who knew?

pro tip: if your “science is settled”, it’s not science.

Wait until they find out that the number of people who will die as a result to get the vastly-limited natural resources to pull this off. Death will be part of the fallout along with the energy-consumption/pollution/resource-destruction that will take place in their quest. These people are nuts!

https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/energy/a25576543/renewable-limits-materials-dutch-ministry-infrastructure/

You mean like how economics is settled re socialism?

What’s insane about the Dumb-o-crats is that they love to pursue their messianic, Quixotic and self-styled “crisis” crusades, vis-a-vis the contrived quest against “climate change,” but, they won’t lift a finger to tackle the decidedly more prosaic, less romantic and far more tangible issue of illegal immigration and the attendant crimes committed by illegal aliens, which actually affect citizens’ lives in a very substantive and negative manner.

Marxism thrives on poor uneducated desperate people who are susceptible to their lies. The Global Warming theory’s primary objective is to create millions of them who will surrender power to the progressive fascists.

Yeah, not happening

Polling has pretty consistently shown that “climate change” is close to the bottom of the list of things voters care about. This seems like a strategy that is guaranteed to fail.

Good.

Jerry Brown: Climate change challenges as serious as those faced in World War II

Actually, he’s right, just not in the way he believes. And he’s on the wrong side. Free men are fighting against the totalitarian onslaught. It happened in 1939, and it’s happening now.

The Democrats are still the pro-slavery party, and this time they want the slaves to be all of us. The AGW fraud is just the latest excuse for the totalitarian control freaks, and it’s the duty of Americans to fight it.

amatuerwrangler | January 1, 2019 at 4:48 pm

All these leftist idiots, from Occasional-Cortes to Guvner Moonbeam need to sit down and carefully watch some Mad Max movies. And then consider just how *they* would fare in such a society…

And do they understand that nearly everything in their world today either consists of “dead dinosaurs” or is a manufacturing by-product of them. And there will be no overnight shipping because the solar powered trucks cannot run at night….

    PilotDave in reply to amatuerwrangler. | January 1, 2019 at 10:00 pm

    Exactly why ALL auto-makers have given up on “fuel cell” cars – without hundreds of millions in government welfare to research. Simple fact – Nature took 4 billions years to develop the best renewable energy storage system = HYDROCARBONS…. They contain 5x the energy density by weight than hydrogen…. This assumes fuel cells are 100% efficient (NOT) and ignore the weight/cost penalty of fuel cell technology….

    So, you typical vehicle carries about 200 pounds of fuel would need 1,000 pounds of hydrogen. BAD math day….

She’s such a deranged ignoramus. But at least she’s open about it. But then again, so was Hitler.

Eliminating all fossil fuel-generated electricity by 2030 you say? Wow, the stupid is deep with this one. Tell you what, let’s try this idea in California for five years and see how it works out. We will, of course, need to deploy many divisions of armed troops to keep the starving hordes in the laboratory.

NBC News host says no air time for climate ‘deniers’ on “Meet the Press’: ‘Science is settled’
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At one point in past history this would be a reason to pull their license and put it up for another bidder.
This isn’t their airwaves, it’s the American public’s airwaves.

It’s been a hundred years since Albert Einstein, one of the greatest geniuses every, expounded his theory of relativity. It is still being tested. No science is settled unless it’s been proven wrong. Come to think of it, maybe anthropogenic climate changes is “settled science”!

Absolutely agree. The science is settled, and these leftists are idiots.

Republicans should file a bill calling for banning all use of private jets by US Corporations and individuals as the first thing to be implemented and just watch the rats start jumping ship!

Memo for Democrats: Mussolini ended up swinging by his heels for doing a lot less than what you’re proposing.

When did Chuck Todd become an authority on science? Talk about Dunning-Kruger.

Dems Have A Plan: Push Hard on Climate Change

While there are certainly valid disputes on the best response to global warming, the scientific evidence strongly supports warming of about 2-4°C per doubling of atmospheric CO2.

    goodspkr in reply to Zachriel. | January 2, 2019 at 2:08 pm

    You comment is incorrect. For every doubling of CO2 in the atmosphere the temperature doesn’t not increase by 2.4 degrees C. It is much less.

      goodspkr: For every doubling of CO2 in the atmosphere the temperature doesn’t not increase by 2.4 degrees C. It is much less.

      There are a variety of ways to determine climate sensitivity: physical first principles, studies of glacial cycles, paleoclimatic considerations, energy budget observations, climate responses to volcanoes. A review of the scientific literature supports a climate sensitivity in the range of 2-4°C. See Knutti et al., Beyond equilibrium climate sensitivity, Nature 2017.

      Sorry. That link was to the chart of transient climate response from the same paper. This is the equilibrium climate sensitivity.

Sorry, Dems…”the science is settled,” we’re all tired of your Global Warming hoax. You’ve gotten enough of our cash.

“NBC News has decided that climate change is no longer an issue that has two sides”

Here you have the most complex system we’ve ever looked at and NCB wants to declare the science is settled?

The only thing that is settled is that NBC doesn’t know what they are talking about.