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Pulse Nightclub Shooting Survivors Sue Orlando, More Than 30 Police Officers

Pulse Nightclub Shooting Survivors Sue Orlando, More Than 30 Police Officers

“The suit calls for additional training and resources, a jury trial and an undetermined monetary judgment”

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June 12th will be the second anniversary of the Pulse Nightclub shooting that left 49 people dead and over 50 more injured.

A group of 39 survivors have filed a civil rights suit against Orlando and more than 30 Orlando police officers.

ABC News reports:

A city police officer acting as a security guard didn’t do his job and more than two dozen of his colleagues failed in their duties or violated the civil rights of surviving victims after the 2016 Orlando, Florida, nightclub massacre, according to a new federal lawsuit.

The gunman, Omar Mateen, was shot dead by police after killing 49 people and wounding 58 at Pulse nightclub in what was then the deadliest mass shooting in modern U.S. history.

Orlando police officer Adam Gruler, according to court papers filed Thursday in U.S. District Court, “was at Pulse at all pertinent times and was charged with providing security to Pulse. Instead, he abandoned his post, thereby allowing [the] shooter to not only enter the club once to scout out the area and make sure nobody could stop him, but to then leave Pulse, retrieve his firearms, and return to execute his sinister plan to kill people.”

The lawsuit also lists 30 unidentified Orlando police officers who the plaintiffs allege either remained outside the nightclub while the shooting occurred or held witnesses against their will after they fled the massacre. The city of Orlando is listed as an additional defendant.

“While people, unarmed, innocent were inside a club getting absolutely massacred by a crazed gunman there were a bunch of people … with guns, with the training and capability to take that shooter out,” Solomon Radner, attorney for the plaintiffs in the case, told ABC News.

Orlando police and the city of Orlando have reportedly not seen the lawsuit and therefore state that they are unable to comment on its substance.

The AP reports:

In a statement, Orlando police and the city of Orlando said they haven’t seen the lawsuit.

“We can’t comment on the substance of the litigation,” the statement said. “On the morning of June 12, 2016, federal, state and local law enforcement officers and first responders put themselves in harm’s way to save as many lives as possible. Our first responders are committed to the safety of this community, and they stand ready to protect and serve.”

The suit calls for additional training and resources, a jury trial and an undetermined monetary judgment.

The plaintiffs contend that the officers did not act aggressively enough and that after the shooting ended they were “detained as though they were criminals.”

The AP continues:

The plaintiffs contend that officers should have more aggressively confronted Mateen to prevent mass casualties. The lawsuit names Orlando Police Department Officer Adam Gruler, who worked an extra-duty shift at the nightclub that evening. The lawsuit says that Gruler “abandoned his post” and, during that time, Mateen walked in, looked around, walked out to retrieve weapons and returned to the club.

Gruler fired at Mateen from two spots outside the club after the shooting began. Officials estimated Mateen fired more than 200 rounds in less than five minutes.

. . . .  The suit also says that officials didn’t allow survivors to use their phones once police had secured the club.

“The detainees were not permitted to use their phones, contact their loved ones, or leave. They were detained as though they were criminals, by these defendants despite there being not a shred of evidence nor any lawful basis to suspect that any of the detainees had committed a crime,” attorneys wrote in the court document.

Watch the report:

Survivors are also suing the owners of Pulse, citing negligence and inadequate security at the nightclub.

The Orlando Sentinel reports:

A group of 39 Pulse nightclub survivors and family members of those who were killed are suing club owners Barbara and Rosario Poma for negligence, claiming they did not provide adequate security the night of the attack.

The suit was filed in Orange County four days before the community marks two years since the June 12, 2016 attack, which left 49 people dead and dozens more injured.

The lawsuit claims the club did not have enough bouncers or security guards in place the night of the attack.

“They contracted out security to the Orlando Police Department,” said Keith Altman, the attorney who filed the suit. “… It just seems like they were trying to put the club beyond the reach for liabilities and I don’t know that that’s OK.”

Barbara Poma said in a statement Friday that she had not yet seen the lawsuit.

“What is important to Rosario and me is that we continue to focus on remembering the 49 angels that were taken, the affected survivors and to continue to help our community heal. We ask that everyone keep the focus where it belongs as we prepare for this Remembrance Week,” Poma said.

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“The plaintiffs contend that officers should have more aggressively confronted Mateen to prevent mass casualties.”

In my alternate timeline we had a pact – citizens were the first responders and Police were the reinforcements.

Used to be that way in this timeline too, long ago. But you began culturally castrating your males. Which is why none of them rallied a group to rush the shooter.

    Fen in reply to Fen. | June 10, 2018 at 4:38 pm

    Courage. Leadership. And the Will To Act.

    Toxic Masculinity?

    “Focus people. We’re going to Blitz this mother fucker. On me. I’ll probably go down first, don’t let it be in vain or I’ll come back to haunt you for-”

    “Fen! He’s moving towards the Ladies Room!”

    “Alright. 3 count. On me. Let’s roll bitches”

    “BLUE 34! BLUE 34!”

    (shooter stops, looks back)

    (Wtf?)

    “HUT! HUT! –

Sammy Finkelman | June 10, 2018 at 4:42 pm

To win such a lawsuit, I think the government or the policve need to have done something positively wrong, not merely failed to act.

Maybe somebody has acase against the security guard who abandoned his post (if there was something he could have done)

    They’ll get a quick and brutal legal education in the fact that police work for the state, as in the state of Florida, not for individual citizens.

      MarkS in reply to JBourque. | June 10, 2018 at 7:18 pm

      Warren v DC the Supremes ruled that police have no obligation to protect individuals

      Humphrey's Executor in reply to JBourque. | June 10, 2018 at 8:18 pm

      Wasn’t the police officer off duty, working as a private security guard for the club?

        “The lawsuit also lists 30 unidentified Orlando police officers who the plaintiffs allege either remained outside the nightclub while the shooting occurred or held witnesses against their will after they fled the massacre.”

        Didn’t sound like they were all security guards so I wrote my question accordingly, but I’ll remain open minded.

Hmm. I wonder if the Broward County Sheriff’s department is paying attention?

“The lawsuit also lists 30 unidentified Orlando police officers who the plaintiffs allege either remained outside the nightclub while the shooting occurred or held witnesses against their will after they fled the massacre. The city of Orlando is listed as an additional defendant.”

Also “…club owners Barbara and Rosario Poma for negligence, claiming they did not provide adequate security the night of the attack.”

And what about the FBI? I didn’t see the FBI listed as a defendant. According to several reports, that agency had this Pulse mass murderer on their radar, and even interviewed him once or twice?

Oh. Throw Trump in there, too, because why not? I’m certain that night was sheer terror, but this lawsuit ain’t gonna fly.

amatuerwrangler | June 10, 2018 at 4:52 pm

And when the police respond quickly and aggressively they are accused of being “trigger happy’ and “out of control”. Were they to allow witnesses to leave the area the suit would include “poor crime scene control”.

Does Qualified Immunity get this thrown out?

In many States the police do not have a legal duty undertake specific acts to protect you. Under Federal case law the police do not have a constitutional duty to protect you (CASTLE ROCK V. GONZALES (04-278) 545 U.S. 748 (2005) 366 F.3d 1093)

If the case gets thrown out it will make the NRA’s point: you cannot rely on police to defend you, it’s your responsibility to defend yourself

rabid wombat | June 10, 2018 at 5:12 pm

I believe several courts (the Supreme, included) have ruled that the police have no duty to protect. As others have mentioned earlier, I am responsible for my safety. If the police help you – great. Otherwise, too bad.

This takes being a drama queen to a whole new level.

Do we actually expect today’s youth, raised in a culture emulating 1920’s Weimar Germany and the Frankfort School, this was a gay club, to defend themselves?
I don’t think so.

    Ragspierre in reply to gbear. | June 10, 2018 at 8:22 pm

    It bears remembering that one leader on Flight 93 was “a gay guy”. IIRC.

      “It bears remembering that one leader on Flight 93 was a gay guy.”

      Not really. Swing by a gay bar on leather night. Some of those guys are built like bikers and linebackers. Definitely not sissies.

    clintack in reply to gbear. | June 10, 2018 at 8:24 pm

    Florida law made it illegal for any of them to bring a gun into the club.

Intra-trans (i.e. homosexual, bisexual) social conflict that progressed and diverged into a catastrophe.

Again, it’d not a homesexual or transexual thing. It’s s symptom of the castration of male culture. These guys didn’t blitz the shooter for the same reason young men don’t give up their seat for pregnant women or the elderly.

John Wayne is dead.

This is designed to get Orlando to pay a bunch of money to the plaintiff’s attorneys. Nothing more.

buckeyeminuteman | June 11, 2018 at 5:18 pm

Police have no legal requirement to protect individual citizens. Anyway, suing the police because a Muslim shot up your gay nightclub is just ridiculous. I would hope this case gets tossed by the judge.

Can they sue because the club owner prevented them from carrying weapons to defend themselves?

    Another Ed in reply to ConradCA. | June 12, 2018 at 3:59 pm

    The Pulse nightclub is a prohibited place for non-LEO possessed firearms. See Florida Statute 790.06(12)(a)12:

    “(12)(a) A license issued under this section does not authorize any person to openly carry a handgun or carry a concealed weapon or firearm into:
    1. Any place of nuisance as defined in s. 823.05;
    2. Any police, sheriff, or highway patrol station;
    3. Any detention facility, prison, or jail;
    4. Any courthouse;
    5. Any courtroom, except that nothing in this section would preclude a judge from carrying a concealed weapon or determining who will carry a concealed weapon in his or her courtroom;
    6. Any polling place;
    7. Any meeting of the governing body of a county, public school district, municipality, or special district;
    8. Any meeting of the Legislature or a committee thereof;
    9. Any school, college, or professional athletic event not related to firearms;
    10. Any elementary or secondary school facility or administration building;
    11. Any career center;
    12. Any portion of an establishment licensed to dispense alcoholic beverages for consumption on the premises, which portion of the establishment is primarily devoted to such purpose;
    13. Any college or university facility unless the licensee is a registered student, employee, or faculty member of such college or university and the weapon is a stun gun or nonlethal electric weapon or device designed solely for defensive purposes and the weapon does not fire a dart or projectile;
    14. The inside of the passenger terminal and sterile area of any airport, provided that no person shall be prohibited from carrying any legal firearm into the terminal, which firearm is encased for shipment for purposes of checking such firearm as baggage to be lawfully transported on any aircraft; or
    15. Any place where the carrying of firearms is prohibited by federal law.”

    http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=0700-0799/0790/Sections/0790.06.html

    Obviously, this Florida Statute did not stop Omar Mateen, but did stop the law-observing patrons of Pulse nightclub from possessing firearms. If this was not a prohibited place, based on the number of employees and patrons in the nightclub, if they had Florida Concealed Weapons Permits in proportion to all Florida adults, then at least six of them could have been armed to defend the others. If Florida had Constitutional Carry, then all of them could have been armed and able to defend themselves.

    https://www.gunlaws.com/ConstitutionalCarryIndex.htm

    Do not all these laws make you feel safer?

    Another Ed in reply to ConradCA. | June 12, 2018 at 5:15 pm

    “Laws that forbid the carrying of arms…. disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes… such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.” Cesare Becarria “On Crimes and Punishment”, quoted by Thomas Jefferson in “Commonplace Book”

    https://founderswisdom.wordpress.com/category/cesare-beccaria/

    https://www.loc.gov/teachers/classroommaterials/connections/thomas-jefferson/langarts2.html