Laura Ingraham advertisers cave in to pressure campaign after she tweeted that David Hogg “whines”
Numerous companies have cancelled advertising in a tactic used against the NRA and many conservative media personalities.
Parkland shooting survivor David Hogg has spent the last month and a half criticizing 2nd Amendment supporters in the most grotesque terms.
His latest tirade accused those who disagree with him as “sick f**kers”:
“I’m beyond exhausted,” Hogg said. “I get to a certain point where I just get so tired that I keep going. It creates a positive feedback loop in some ways — the more stress and work I put on me, the more stress and work I can deal with.”
“It just makes me think what sick fuckers out there want to continue to sell more guns, murder more children, and honestly just get reelected,” Hogg said. “What type of shitty person does that? They could have blood from children splattered all over their faces and they wouldn’t take action, because they all still see these dollar signs.”
“Honestly, it’s alright that people are buying more guns. I just care that they are being safe individuals. And they can practice their Second Amendment rights all they want. I don’t give a f*ck about that. I just want to make sure that a crazy-ass individual doesn’t get an AR-15 or any weapon at all,” Hogg said about guns.
To Florida Gov. Rick Scott: “You’re kind of like Voldemort at this point. You should just retire, because you aren’t going to get elected to Senate.”
To Sen. Marco Rubio: “What about the $176,000 you took for those 17 people’s blood?”
LANGUAGE WARNING
Wednesday, radio and Fox News host Laura Ingraham tweeted a post from The Daily Wire (Ben Shapiro’s site) detailing how Hogg was denied admission to four colleges adding that he whined about his predicament.
Hogg reacted by calling for a pressure campaign to drive away Ingraham’s advertisers, asking people to contact them and demand they stop sponsorship of Ingraham’s show.
Soooo @IngrahamAngle what are your biggest advertisers … Asking for a friend. #BoycottIngramAdverts
— David Hogg (@davidhogg111) March 29, 2018
Pick a number 1-12 contact the company next to that #
Top Laura Ingraham Advertisers
1. @sleepnumber
2. @ATT
3. Nutrish
4. @Allstate & @esurance
5. @Bayer
6. @RocketMortgage Mortgage
7. @LibertyMutual
8. @Arbys
9. @TripAdvisor
10. @Nestle
11. @hulu
12. @Wayfair— David Hogg (@davidhogg111) March 29, 2018
This is the same tactic used against the NRA partnering organizations, and by groups such as Media Matters against conservative media personalities. Hogg is getting support from some of the left-wing organizations using him for their political purposes. And remember, this is all because someone said he whined. That’s it.
“Deplorable attack”? Really?
Dear @libertymutual and @bayerAG / @BayerUS
I understand you’re both strongly associated with Ingraham’s Fox show @IngrahamAngle. After her deplorable attack on Parkland shooting survivor @davidhogg111, I implore you both to drop all support.
By supporting you are condoning.
— Morgan J. Freeman (@mjfree) March 29, 2018
From the beginning, these kids (who suffered a severe trauma during the Parkland shooting) have been played as pawns by the usual leftwing activists, organizations, and politicians. Their parents, the media, and everyone advising them are willfully allowing these kids to be completely politically objectified. It’s sick, abusive, and concerning.
So it’s of little surprise that once again, the same lame boycott tactic is being used against a right-leaning personality. This is all textbook liberal activism and Hogg is just their latest excuse.
Media Matters ran the exact same play with Rush Limbaugh after he made an off-color joke about Sandra Fluke (the chick demanding tax-payers pay for her birth control). They lie in wait for someone of status on the right to say something unflattering, then demand sponsors distance themselves.
☺ tweet away https://t.co/cKe4iTTulV
— David Hogg (@davidhogg111) March 29, 2018
Ingraham apologized Thursday, saying, “in the spirit of Holy Week, I apologize for any upset or hurt my tweet caused him or any of the brave victims of Parkland.” Adding, “I believe my show was the first to feature David immediately after that horrific shooting and even noted how “poised” he was given the tragedy. As always, he’s welcome to return to the show anytime for a productive discussion.”
Any student should be proud of a 4.2 GPA —incl. @DavidHogg111. On reflection, in the spirit of Holy Week, I apologize for any upset or hurt my tweet caused him or any of the brave victims of Parkland. For the record, I believe my show was the first to feature David…(1/2)
— Laura Ingraham (@IngrahamAngle) March 29, 2018
… immediately after that horrific shooting and even noted how “poised” he was given the tragedy. As always, he’s welcome to return to the show anytime for a productive discussion. WATCH: https://t.co/5wcd00wWpd (2/2)
— Laura Ingraham (@IngrahamAngle) March 29, 2018
Hogg rejected her apology, demanded she apologize again, misquoted scripture, and then played the victim card:
I 100% agree an apology in an effort just to save your advertisers is not enough. I will only accept your apology only if you denounce the way your network has treated my friends and I️ in this fight. It’s time to love thy neighbor, not mudsling at children. https://t.co/H0yWs4zMGk
— David Hogg (@davidhogg111) March 29, 2018
That’s rich. “Love thy neighbor” doesn’t come with a “so long as it’s under my terms and conditions and by the way, I’m not accepting your apology” caveat, pal.
At the time this post was published, five companies have cowered to the teenage-led internet mob and pulled advertising from Ingraham’s show. Cowards. All of them.
TripAdvisor, Expedia, Wayfair and Nutrish pulled ads from Laura Ingraham’s program after her comments about David Hogg. https://t.co/Pm572VnL31
— Axios (@axios) March 29, 2018
Nestlé is the latest company to pull ads from Laura Ingraham’s show https://t.co/Pm572VFmrB
— Axios (@axios) March 29, 2018
Regular readers know my preference for civil, productive discussion over name-calling and polarization (the latter seldom changes minds or hearts and usually do little more than harden both). To be clear, I am not suggesting Hogg’s actions allow for an exception to those principles. That said, whatever claim Hogg had to ‘innocent bystander’ in this nasty national discussion is now gone.
Someone lobbed mild criticism his direction and chose to attack someone’s livelihood, making him an aggressor.
Choosing to attack the Constitutional protections of the masses is also an unnecessarily aggressive act to which people will definitely respond. And when you are threatening someone’s ability to protect themselves, you can bet not everyone being threatened is going to be polite in return.
Meanwhile, NRA donations have tripled since the Parkland Shooting. If these kids want to keep making gun control a national issue, by all means, keep it up.
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The left are certainly good little Fascists, aren’t they? No free speech if it is not their ideology. No guns. Yeah, the left aren’t Fascists though. Not much.
Of course Laura is 100% accurate.
“First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
Martin Niemöller
THIS IS WAR FOLKS!
Trump and the conservative talk show crowd are fighting a war against people who disagree with them, but are loyal citizens. Dissent is treated as disloyalty.
BTW, Trump doesn’t support socialists or trade unionists (except for a few in purple states). The republican party supports misnamed ‘right to work’ laws. So why don’t you find some quote that is applicable and hasn’t become a cliche.
Of course Trump doesn’t support socialists; he loves America.
Difference Between Liberals & Conservatives
If a conservative doesn’t like guns, he doesn’t buy one.
If a liberal doesn’t like guns, he wants all guns outlawed.
If a conservative is a vegetarian, he doesn’t eat meat.
If a liberal is a vegetarian, he wants all meat products banned for everyone.
If a conservative sees a foreign threat, he thinks about how to
defeat his enemy.
A liberal wonders how to surrender gracefully and still look good.
If a conservative is homosexual, he quietly leads his life.
If a liberal is homosexual, he demands legislated respect.
If a person of color is conservative, they see themselves as
independently successful.
Their liberal counterparts see themselves as victims in need of
government protection.
If a conservative is down-and-out, he thinks about how to better his
situation.
A liberal wonders who is going to take care of him.
If a conservative doesn’t like a talk show host, he switches channels.
Liberals demand that those they don’t like be shut down.
If a conservative is a non-believer, he doesn’t go to church.
A liberal non-believer wants any mention of God and religion
silenced. (Unless it’s a foreign religion, of course!)
If a conservative decides he needs healthcare, he goes about shopping
for it, or may choose a job that providesit.
A liberal demands that the rest of us pay for his.
If a conservative slips and falls in a store, he gets up, laughs and
is embarrassed.
If a liberal slips and falls, he grabs his neck, moans like he’s in
labor and then sues.
If a conservative reads this, he’ll show it to his friends and have
a good laugh.
A liberal will delete it because he’s “offended
If a conservative doesn’t like abortions, he stops other people from getting them. If he can’t stop them directly, he will lie about the fetus, the woman, the doctor, liberals. He will open up faux clinics that lie to the women that come into them. In some cases he will kill clinic personnel.
I, too, could come up with 20 examples. But one will do.
One would, and you couldn’t manage that.
Ha! No, you cannot come up with 20 appropriate examples or else you would. You cannot even come up with one.
Ah, yes abortion. the 2nd Amendment.
In the case of the 2nd Amendment you have a clearly enumerated ban upon government regulation of the ownership and possession of weapons, including firearms. One side believes that the language of the Amendment is binding. The other side believes that it is not. And, the side which believes that it is binding has actually made significant efforts to comprise and allow violations of the language of the Amendment.
In the case of abortion, you have one side which believes that, until birth, the fetus is simply tissue which is part of a woman’s body. The other side believes that a fetus is a potential human and life and should be allowed to come to term. Here the pro-abortion side has made no compromise, while the anti-abortion side has reduced its objections to early term abortions in exchange for explaining to the woman the ramifications of the abortion and options thereto. Of course, this is summarily rejected by the pro-abortion side. To complicate matters even more, there are several states which have made the termination of the fetus, without the woman’s consent a homicide. That is a homicide of the fetus, not the mother, even though the fetus could be legally aborted at the same point in its development. In other words a mother is allowed to kill a child when it would be the crime of killing another human being if someone else did it. See the problems that exist in the area of abortion? The same groups that push for abortions for everyone also push these fetal homicide laws. What does that suggest?
Now as to people blowing up abortion clinics and blocking entry to same, the populous does not support such things. It condemns them. Even though reasoned discourse has no effect on the issue of what is potentially mass homicide, without due process.
Before you lecture the rest of the world about abortion, would you mind telling the rest of us when a fetus becomes a human being? Is it at birth? 6 months after conception? When they start walking?
Social conservatives have a very simple standard when it comes to abortion: life begins at conception. Your comment ignores that belief. You self-evidently think at least some abortions are acceptable, so I ask: when does the operation stop being a legal abortion, and becomes illegal murder? How many weeks into pregnancy? Please justify your answer.
This is true. Except I wish we’d start using the proper term. They’re not liberals; they’re PROGRESSIVES. Progressives hijacked liberals and pushed them aside. The key is to get old world liberals onto the conservative/libertarian side because they’re values are close aligned to them. Progressives fall on the side of Marxism, fascism, communism and socialism.
Chilling speech was a necessary act to solidify his credibility as a leftist/fascist. If he’s going to look like a little Hitler, he’s going to act like a little Hitler. A thin-skinned little Hitler, who can dish it out but can’t take it, but a little Hitler nevertheless. What a punk and a puke.
Why did you bring Trump into this? It is wholly accurate of Trump, but is it relevant?
Trump is a thin skinned bully who can dish it out, but can’t take it.
You and Rags have enough projection to open a 50 screen cineplex.
Does L.I. really understand the implications? This is Sandra Fluke on steroids. Boggs has nothing to lose – no job, no savings, no home, and no guilt to deal with.He wealds a well funded mob and lavish budget and can destroy anyone he choses – either by destroying advertising or court suits. He is more than shrewd, he is a cold blooded personae that responded to a petty slight without a protest..he just told his minions to destroy Ingrahams job.
LI (and Hot Air and Powerline , etc.) should be afraid…very afraid. Say something critical of his personae and you will be destroyed.
And unless someone is rich, you’d better not tweet or publish anything derogatory. He does not ask for an apology – he just reacts to crush you . In short – every person commenting here is at risk.
By your logic doesn’t that make Trump a Fascist? He attacked the football players and suggested that they should lose their jobs.
BTW, who has more power: Trump or Hogg? Trump hates CNN and has specifically announced that the AT&T merger with Warner will not go forward unless they divest CNN. Whatever the subsequent claims, Trump announced his opposition and the reasons why. His toadies have walked it back, but he is on record.
Isn’t that a violation of the 1st Amendment. Hogg does not have that power.
Nope, it just means we’re going to feed you your own tactics until they choke you. You Leftists started it; we’ll finish it.
Trump did not “attack” the football players, but he did say they should be fired. Fun trivia fact: part of the NFL contract calls for players on the field to stand and salute while the anthem is being played. The sticker is that no specific penalty is mentioned. Firing is a reasonable penalty, given that these men were wearing company uniforms, on company property, and breaking company rules on company times. In just about every other business in America that sort of behavior will get you a termination ASAP.
Preventing a merger of two giant corporations is no limitation of free speech. In fact I am generally against mega-corps like that. It’s one of the Progressive ideas (trust busting) I agree with.
Hogg is a whingy little snot, and his “clown nose OFF, clown nose ON” shtick wears thin. He is not a child, but a high school senior. For that matter it’s debatable we should call him a shooting “survivor” given that he wasn’t even in building 12 that day and only knew any of the victims by name, if that. Either way, he gave up any right to immunity by entering the political arena. He then doubled down by libeling those he disagreed with and called for a boycott because someone called him a whinger.
…Yanno, I take what I said back. Only a child would act like that. I stand corrected. Now someone get his bottle.
Bitter little disco boy. Pitiful.
I still can’t give over the fact that this brat is only known because his schoolmates got shot. His schoolmates were the victim, not him! He has done nothing but use the deaths of those kids to get attention, and that is truly disgusting.
Makes me think of “The Snake.”
Trump reads “The Snake” poem
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSrOXvoNLwg
Worse, the media keeps referring to him as a ‘survivor’. The story about his whereabouts that day continue to be muddled but one thing seems to be certain, he wasn’t in the school while there was an active shooter roaming the premises killing people. He truly is a figment of the press. How anyone can’t see through this pathetic shtick (appeal to emotions using kids as pawns to pimp a narrative) is beyond me. But here we are.
Makes a pathetic little Hitler.
Never apologize to the commies.
Have you seen this graphic?
Sorry I don’t know the artist of this.
https://crayfisher.files.wordpress.com/2018/03/dzfgiwdwkam6hgf.jpg?w=640&h=434
His jacket does look quite similar, in color at least, to a DDR Stasi or EGA uniform.
… try Pee-wee Hermans’s closet
I guess GPAs aren’t what they once were. I was damned proud of a 3.64 GPA on finishing college. But then a perfect GPA was 4.0. I guess grade inflation has resulted in requiring more than a 4.0 scale even for High School.
Ingraham apologizing to the little Fascist creep is disgusting. But not as disgusting as he and his friends are. Yes, I’ll go there and call him names, he richly deserves it. The comedown when his 15 minutes are over will be a wonderful thing to see.
Most High School “A” and “B” grades (and GPAs) are the equivalent of “F” grades a decade ago I do believe.
The “muddiness” comes from weighting of AP courses for GPA. This allows some students to earn up to 5.0 in a course. What makes it worse is that some AP classes are not that rigorous and it varies greatly from school to school.
The only consistent trend I’ve observed is that many high schools “pass the buck” to colleges to teach basic crap the first year that students should have learned earlier if high school were still challenging. Then, the select few students who actually did get challenged are bored the first year in college and the rest come in unprepared for a real challenge. This is on top of immaturity and undeveloped character traits coupled with new responsibilities and freedoms they’ve never had before. It’s not a great recipe for building a rigorous work ethic.
I homeschooled our children through senior year. I compared our curriculum to the local high school. What I considered standard classes for our children were considered Honors for the high school. I couldn’t believe it. Our youngest finished HS at 15, the two older ones, at 16. They were taking college level classes at the homeschool co-op, and college classes at a private college as 17 year olds. An 85 is now considered an A at the high school.
What a disservice to these students.
It depends on the school, some use A as a $, but some use 5 as a A. That means this guy is barely a B+ student. The plus should be in a font four sizes smaller.
Sorry that $ should read 4.
AP courses are often 5.0 as noted above.
And IB course are quite often 6.0.
Warranted in many cases. If HS physics is 4.0 and you are taking college level physics (IB) it should count more.
Usually it shows up in the SAT scores.
Little Hitler ain’t that bright.
When I was going to college (back when dinosaurs roamed the Earth) my college decide to add “+” and “-” grades. The “+” was worht 0.3 while the “-” was -0.3
Of course, there was an immediate request from the liberal arts school for an “A+” … 4.3
They said it was really hard to get into great law and medical schools and they needed the “edge”
Not for nothing but Hogg had a 1230 or 1260 SAT score. That is really not good enough for the top most competitive schools. The other point is that if students like Hogg with GPAs of 4.2 are only scoring 1230 on the SATs what the heck does that High School’s grading system mean and what are they teaching them there.
The idea that UCLA and other top Universities that reviewed his less than spectacular applications along with thousands of other applications has any bearing on the school shooting and Hogg’s public infamy which happened months after the schools reviewed the 10s of 1000s of applications is absurd.
Who can take seriously the idea that the academic bastions of the left would reject a headlining leftist activist; Even if it were the case anyway?
The school in question might be using a 7-point system for grading instead of a 4-point system.
It’s telling that the whiney, arrogant prick will only spew his nonsense in the safety of the liberal media.
It’s BEEN time for him to be called out on his bullshit.
David “Attention” Hogg strikes me has someone who has received more than his fair share of participation trophies in his young life.
David “Camera ” Hogg
https://youtu.be/BRi-UouACL8
In his first twitter response …
David Hogg ✔ @davidhogg111
Soooo @IngrahamAngle what are your biggest advertisers …
Asking for a friend. #BoycottIngramAdverts
9:02 PM – Mar 28, 2018 · Washington, DC
… did anybody notice his call out to his
friend“puppetmaster” ?FYI – just ran across this. Is there any truth to it?
“…Activist David Hogg’s Father in FBI, Appears To Have Been Coached On Anti-Trump Lines”
“…Few have seen this type of rapid media play before, and when they have it has come from well-trained political operatives and MSM commentators.
“Immediately, these students-turned-activists threw up some red flags. In what was initially as an incredibly odd move for a high school student, Hogg vehemently defended the FBI and placed the blame squarely on the President’s shoulders…. before admitting that his father was in the FBI.
“I think it’s disgusting, personally. My father’s a retired FBI agent and the FBI are some of the hardest working individuals I have ever seen in my life,” proclaimed David Hogg to CNN.”
http://rickandanna.com/school-shooting-survivor-turned-activist-david-hoggs-father-in-fbi-appears-to-have-been-coached-on-anti-trump-lines/
The guy was not even at school on the day. He was at home and rushed to school with his phone/tablet/camera whatever.
Wrong. Please don’t spread stupid lies, it only discredits our side. He’s not an actor, and he was at school, hiding in a closet, and that doesn’t make him any wiser or saintlier or a better role model.
Milhouse, please take your own advice and check out this video, in his own words, D.Hogg disagrees with you:
https://rumble.com/v4n0a9-hogg-seems-to-have-an-issue-with-truth.html
Was he in the closet, or running with the other students, or at home, or confused or suffering from PTSD? In any case, something doesn’t ring true.
That’s actually been debunked.
CBS sloppily edited that video.
Hoggboy had gone home and then returned a couple hours later
with his camera to do some of his own cub reportingwhen he found out there were media cameras around to get in front ofLaura Ingram sold out. “Oh please don’t hurt me David, I’m sorry and I’ll never do it again.”
So when the heat comes, just jump on out of the fire Laura!!!
Don’t confuse Christian charity with weakness.
That’s why the Left does this stuff, because they never get any push back, any return fire. As evidenced by the comments here and elsewhere the conservative response to these tactics is always the same: Whine about the Left not playing nice!
Yes, the biggest political blunder of the week. I thought Ingraham was an old hand at this stuff, but then she drops an amateur clanker like that.
Rule #1 of political survival in the 21st Century—STOP APOLOGIZING!!!!!!!!!!!
Rule #2—Really, we mean it; STOP APOLOGIZING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Rule #3—When in doubt, see Rule #1. And STOP APOLOGIZING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ITA she folded like a house of cards.
Guess her megabuck contract was more important than her integrity.
I am a little disappointed in what is being characterized as an apology by Ingraham. She should have just issued the invitation to Hogg to return to her show.
Did Hobbs actually whine about being rejected by colleges, or just disclose the rejections matter-of-factly? I agree with Paul in Sweden and his comment icon.
Was Hogg shot at MSDHS? Was he hospitalized for gunshot related injuries? If not, he is NOT a survivor of the shooting at MSDHS. People running away from a car wreck are not SURVIVORS of that wreck. So, let’s take that nonsense off the table.
Hogg put himself in the public spotlight. When one does that, others then have the right to question what one says as well as one’s character and motivations. If a person does not wish that, then that person should stay out of the spotlight. So, Hogg and his supporters have no standing to complain about any truthful statement or criticism of him.
The reason why those, who are using Hogg as a shill, attack anyone who criticizes his demeanor is because they CAN NOT support his demeanor. This young man is belligerent, rude, crude and seemingly lacking in communication skills. He would be a PR disaster, except for the fact that his supporters keep touting him as a “survivor” of the shooting at MSDHS, as though this gives him some standing to make authoritative pronouncements on the subject of firearms.
What is really interesting is that Mr. Hogg does not seem to understand the rules of the fight that he is involved in. He apparently understands that he is in a fight, as he calls it that in his tweet. In a fight, both parties get to throw punches. Mr. Hogg has been throwing his punches and somebody punched back. And, now Mr. Hogg not only wants an apology but is not happy when he gets one. Pretty pathetic.
To be fair, most of his puppeteers are not used to their opponents punching back either.
Hogg like all of the Junior and Senior students were not in the Building 1200 where the shooting took place. Building 1200 was for the younger kids. The school is said to be on a very large campus and we do not even know if Hogg even heard the sound of gunfire.
Which seems to fit with his disclosures to CBS.
It sounds like he didn’t think it was anything but a drill until he was already home
At around 6 p.m., Hogg went back to get interviews, according to Vox.
“The evening after the shooting, Hogg says, he biked up to the school, where the media was still camped out,” the article says. “This time, he put himself in front of the camera, making his first — but not final — plea for an end to mass shootings.”
“On the day of the shooting, I got my camera and got on my bike and rode as fast as I could three miles from my house to the school to get as much video and to get as many interviews as I could because I knew that this could not be another mass shooting.“
That last line just doesn’t seem to fit with him being where the shooting occurred. Long before 6pm, the entire world knew that it was a school shooting
No, he says he recognized the sound of gunfire. He came back to film because he didn’t want to let it be just another shooting, he wanted to make something of it (and of himself).
Hogg was on campus but wasn’t even in the same building. It would be like claiming you were a survivor if your neighbor across the street were killed in a home invasion while you were reading a book in your bedroom.
Hogg has reached his 18th birthday and needs to drop the “child” label. Regardless of how he behaves, he’s actually a legal adult and need to be held to the same standards as other adults. Maybe if we stop infantilizing young adults, they won’t need to be on their parents insurance until they’re 26.
It doesn’t matter if he was two blocks CRs away, the media portrayed EVERY child on television as a “survivor”. I fully agree with you,; unless he was in one of the rooms where the children were being shot, he isn’t a survivor, merely a bystander.
Not to nit pick, but…….if you didn’t get hit by a projectile, you are not a shooting victim or survivor, as if the car next to you at the stop light gets rear ended and yours suffers no damage, you are not an accident victim or survivor!
Please! Of COURSE this is kid is smart, and he’s a good student.
But smart, good students down through history have embraced bullshit that makes them effective idiots. This is ESPECIALLY true when they’ve been caught up in movements that happened so fast that they were TOTALLY out of their capacity to think clearly, AND involved deep trauma.
It goes without saying that he’s wrong on every level. But that case can and SHOULD be made without going all “stupid” about his intelligence and his record as a student.
Ingraham was right to walk back. She’s smart enough to know Hogg can be defeated on the merits, not on slime.
Agreed.
She simply commented on him not getting into the schools he wanted, and characterized it as whiny. For this he brought forth an ATTACK on her livelihood. Bonus for little adolf in that the advertisers left even though she apologized.
This little fuck is all about power and he is flexing his little power muscles to show who is boss. He doesn’t give two shits about the kids that died, all he cares about is his control over others. He thinks he has won the lottery with this and everyone can see how sick what he and his handlers are doing. Kim Un Jung would be proud.
And one more thing, Ingrahm called him whiny. What he has said about so many other people/groups has been vile and disgusting. I am not thinking Ingrahm has gone all out with this kid and really … whiny we are going to jump on this as an example of someone “sliming” him. Ppppuuuuhhhlllllease.
Why is it sliming him? Because it has nothing whatsoever to do with his arguments.
It’s a means…see above…of fallaciously attacking him. This is so silly, as he is so TOTALLY open to attack on the merits.
It’s like we saw on the Stormy thread with comments about how she looks. It’s cheap, stupid, and ineffectual. It has nothing to do with the issues.
Sorry, but Hogg chose the weapons when he attacked those who disagree with him on a personal basis through crude vulgarities and ad hominem attacks. Listen to his interviews. He is belligerent, rude, crude and totally unwilling to discuss any other point of view. All who disagree with him are, in his own words, child killing, motherf******.
As to arguing with him on the merits, that is pointless. He is not being used as the poster boy for logical, reasoned discourse, but as a traumatize CHILD whose point of view HAS to be treated as DIVINE gospel. With that type of strategy, you impeach the witness [as most every lawyer knows].
No, if Mr. Hogg had made a logical and reasoned presentation of his beliefs AND the people for whom he is shilling [knowingly or unknowingly] engaged in such discussions, rather than ran around in silly pink goat udder hats and called everyone who disagrees with them a racist, sexist bottom feeder, then the discourse would be civil.
Want to duel? Think about your choice of weapons first.
Showing, yet again, that there is no fallacious bullshit you will not sponsor.
Lying about this kid is not a “response”. It is a concession to weakness that NEVER needs be made.
Well, so much for your demand for logical, factual reasoned discourse. You seem to have attended the same school of debate as Mr. Hogg and goat udder hat people. Thank you for making my case for me, as usual.
Showing, yet again, that there is no fallacious bullshit you will not sponsor.
Lying about this kid is not a “response”. It is a concession to weakness that NEVER needs be made.
“Well he should have armed himself, if he’s going to decorate his saloon with my friend”
https://youtu.be/8vw7d6LSWmk
Time to drop those advertisers that drtop Ingraham
So, we have a 17 year old young man who got rejected at UCLA and several other colleges and all because he thinks he knows best, we are supposed to follow him?
Hogg has evolved from useful tool to weapon. It’s time to squash him
Story now is that some advertisers have pulled out. If this is true it really tells me that this nation has fallen so far that it will never recover.
For ANYONE to support that lying, hateful psycho “kid” is beyond my comprehension !
Welp, Target and Microsoft ‘supported’ Clock Boy with his hoax bomb, gave him all sorts of goodies. Obama even invited him to the White House.
ah yes, Target, where flashers can use which ever bathroom has the most occupants
Oh, that’s right. Target. I used to shop there a few years ago…
I still do. Only place around here I can get halfway decent fire extinguishers. Everybody else has nothing but those crappy Kidde things. I’m not going to risk letting my house burn down because of a dispute over bathroom policy.
I can get much better extinguishers from Amazon, of course … but then I have to deal with that bozo Bezos. It looks like we’re surrounded.
When will the targeted firms realize that boycotts by the left never work. The mathematics are simple. While the left is concentrated in urban cores, the conservatives and independents populate the middle income suburbs and the more rural counties. The left concentrates itself in about 160 counties, is about even in another 300. Meanwhile there are 2,700 counties that lean Republican or independent. Further, the total buying power of the left is far weaker. First it is concentrated in urban centers where rent is very expensive and you can have only so many outlets, or pets, or cars or washing machines, as opposed to the suburbs and rural areas that require outlets and services in many towns and ergo locations. Secondly, a core component on left wing voters is the urban poor, single women, and young people. Contrary to what people think, except for repetitive consumer items (Starbucks and Pizza), these are very weak consumers. The rich core that drives the left wing agenda is minuscule.
In every instance, a nationally distributed consumer product will survive simply by virtue of spending power and numbers.
I read a headline that donations to the NRA tripled after the media started plastering that obnoxious puke’s face everywhere.
Obama was the gun industry’s top salesman. Maybe that title will pass to David Hogg now.
It’s about time the non-fascists among us push back against these companies who decide to take sides in this way. They are able to do so because there is no cost to throwing conservatives, libertarians, and other non-fascists under the bus.
Every time a company caves like this, non-leftists should contact them and let them know in no uncertain terms that the cost of playing politics will affect their business. Similarly, when these leftist demagogues start campaigns to pressure these companies, non-fascist opinion makers should counter-campaign to let them know there will be consequences for taking sides.
There should be similarly boycotts or slow-cotts of Internet and media companies that discriminate politically, like Google, Facebook and Twitter, as well, at least until they embrace political non-discrimination. Which, granted, it may take a lot of kicking and screaming to get them to do. They may have a right to say or do anything on their platforms, but we do not owe them our business, and definitely, the government should not be given them tax dollars or trusting them to communicate with the citizenry in any way..
Let there be a cost for disdaining non-fascists.
Gibb’s rule Number One….. Never apologize, especially to a snot spewing kid.
Rule 1 is “Never screw over your partner.”
“Never say sorry” is Rule 6.
Now apologize. 🙂
There is no rule 6.
Ok.
http://ncis.wikia.com/wiki/Gibbs%27s_Rules
“Rule 6: “Never say you’re sorry. It’s a sign of weakness.” – This rule has been mentioned throughout the series, but it wasn’t given a specific number until Flesh and Blood (episode). The rule is also a direct reference to John Wayne’s catch phrase in She Wore A Yellow Ribbon (John Ford, Director). Wayne said: “Never apologize, mister, it’s a sign of weakness.” to subordinates in a military situation. DiNozzo notes the connection in Hiatus Part 1 (episode). Mark Harmon’s career has paralleled John Wayne’s. They both were quarterback of their southern California college football team, both went into acting. (Harmon’s father, Tom Harmon, was a Heisman Trophy winner and actor & announcer as well.) Note: This is continuously told to Tony, Ziva and Tim through a smack to the back of their heads.”
The faculty rules for the Philosophy Department at the University of Walamaloo have “NO Rule 6”, although that in fact is Rule 6.
Thanks Laura, some of us needed to be reminded that the Groveling Apology Tour ™ doesn’t work with these people.
You thought you could trade your dignity for your advertisers. Now you will have neither.
Be sure to send us links to your comments to “Laura” and her responses, Killer.
And this from a drunk. You need to sober up asshole.
You know, it’s interesting that this is all you have to slime me with, and that we agree on so much.
I, for instance, totally approve of your free-market posts on another thread.
But here you cannot manage a single “SOBER” argument to refute me. It’s all just hate from you.
Sad.
God, you’re repulsive.
In what way, stupid?
considering that we live in a 50-50 nation, 2 can and should play the boycott game.
the left has been successful with this because we do not believe in boycotts –
BUT, weust fight fire with fire.
if advertisers succumb to the tactics of the left we must explain that as long as they were neutral so were we, but we will not be taken advantage of OR we can just lay down and die.
there is no other choice. Trump’s Rules FIGHT BACK!
I’ve always believed in the use of boycotts, and their inverse the BUYcott.
They are one of the most exquisite expressions of “free association” and market economics you will find. They are true examples of small “d” democracy.
In some cases, they are far too amplified in their influence, and some business interests are too prone to knuckle under to them. But that’s on them, not on the idea of a boycott.
I love freedom. This includes, necessarily, the freedom to be quite wrong.
You seem to exercise that freedom on a regular basis.
Like…???
I agree – the day of “taking the high road” is long over. The advertiser cancellations shou7ld be responded to by the Right to refresh the companies awareness that all of the potential customers are not flaming liberals.
I do think Laura took a petty snipe at the snot – she is an adult & he is a child. However as a child he should not be accorded the attention he has nor the influence. He was apparently never in danger but he has IMO with parental approval, become the face of the anti-gun crowd and it is an ugly vulgar one.
Rags: “Be sure to send us links to your comments to “Laura” and her responses, Killer”
Yet another unprovoked attack. LOL. Keep nursing that grudge, Ahab.
But, honey, that wasn’t an “attack”. I just want to make sure you have the guts to follow on, Killer. Let her know your “gutsy call”, and let her respond.
That doesn’t make you afraid, does it, Little Bill?
“It just makes me think what sick fuckers out there want to continue to sell more forceps, murder more children, and honestly just get reelected,” Hogg said. “What type of shitty person does that? They could have blood from children splattered all over their faces and they wouldn’t take action, because they all still see these dollar signs.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XY1ReU8hLVI
Yep. He’s a weak extremist making stupid, weak, and disgusting arguments.
So, easy to deal with those arguments on merit, not by implying he’s a poor student or has no intelligence. Because that is a weak, extremist argument, and plainly disgusting.
Ingraham was correct to walk back. People of integrity can and DO.
Sorry. I see no foul in dealing with people who do not respond to logic or reason with snark or worse
For me, one has to meet a certain bar before they get merit as it is so often a total waste of time.
Again, there is NO rational response to someone who refuses to discuss or debate things on their merits. In the case of people like that, you impeach them.
You don’t “impeach” them by lying.
You impeach yourself.
You seem hung up on “Lying”
Given the state of the media, what is truth and what is lie?
Based on what I’ve read, it is fairly debatable that he wasn’t in school at the time of the shooting, not in the building where the shooting took place
Meanwhile, back at the ranch…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dxjCokQP9I
“Hung up on lying”? No, I’m insisting on reality.
You insist on myth. It’s fine but it has it’s down-side. As in living in delusion.
So what is truth and what is lie?
When it comes to social media, you sometimes have to look at the tongue in cheek comments for the hidden humor
Of course, if you’re asserting that everything on Facebook needs to be properly vetted and truthful then maybe I’m not the delusional one
(We deadheads prefer the term hallucination anyway)
If you have a point, make it “plain-speak”.
So, who is lying about Hogg? Please be specific in your answer so we can have a logical, reasoned discussion on the subject, instead of throwing names around.
Nobody has told any lies about the little fascist in training.
Ragspeepee can’t post without using the word lie at least twice.. It’s a rule of those that self proclaim “character”.
The whole meme building in this thread is that the kid is not bright and not a good student.
Nobody has to resort to that kind of dishonesty. He has plenty to attack. Attack him on what’s real.
Things have changed in the high schools of today. Back in the late ’80’s this punk would have gotten his nose rearranged and a tooth or two knocked out.
Rags: “… walk it back. People of integrity can and DO.”
The James Comey of Legal Insurrection.
Thanks for making me laugh.
Yep. He’s a weak extremist making stupid, weak, and disgusting arguments.
So, easy to deal with those arguments on merit, not by implying he’s a poor student or has no intelligence. Because that is a weak, extremist argument, and plainly disgusting.
Ingraham was correct to walk back. People of integrity can and DO.
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Now, Little Bill, deal with the argument. Chickenshit.
Next up, we sit down with Hillary Clinton to discuss her latest bestseller: Own Your Mistakes, America.
Thank you for tuning in.
I realize it must be hard to be a survivor of a school shooting and i’m sure they must wish they were dead instead of their classmates … but not David Hogg. This dude is a 100% grade-A downer.
“Things have changed in the high schools of today. Back in the late ’80’s this punk would have gotten his nose rearranged and a tooth or two knocked out.”
He was probably one of the pack that bullied the shooter.
D.Hogg has a 4.1 average? He writes to Laura Ingraham,
“I 100% agree an apology in an effort just to save your advertisers is not enough. I will only accept your apology only if you denounce the way your network has treated my friends and I in this fight.”
Shouldn’t it be, “my friends and ME…”?
Then there’s, “I will only accept your apology only…” Repetitive, no?
However, he IS a victim, so he can not be questioned or criticized, or something.
Yes, his handlers evidently didn’t do a grammar check of his statement.
He is like Chance the Gardener, IMO.
Thrust into what seems like a fortuitous situation and having no idea what the Hell is going on.
Chance, however, was likable at least.
I could be rude and ask which color crayon he used or printed versus cursive. Getting into the university of his choice is tough for a White male with only a 4.1 GPA….it could be worse if he were Asian.
That is the real issue. It could be grade shaming the universities to accept him. Naybe Berkley might.
Sounds perfect for Oberlin these days. Put him in a cornfield where he can’t cause any harm.
Hogg only got a 1230 or 1260 on the SAT which does not cut it for a top school. His HS is in a county where they accepted over 50 million from the Obama administration not to arrest the criminal kids and it appears they are handing out inflated grades for attendance and not achievement.
I think that equates to a 26 on the ACT which is very good but far below what the Ivy Schools and other top schools require (unless you are of a certain minority in which case the rules are very different).
As others have noted AP classes are weighted higher than others which explains the above 4.0 GPA.
I have been writing about this for years. What I find most offensive is how those like Hogg use extreme profane language to attack others. Oftentimes, those they attack have had nothing to do with what Hogg and his ilk are blaming them for, but that does not matter a whit. When a factual statement is made against them that they do not like, they immediately scream “microaggressions!” and go off the deep end. Now they are doing all they can to hurt others who disagree as much as possible for daring to say something they find offensive.
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When I see Hogg with his facial expression, his “salute”, his political stance filled with hypocrisy and lies, and such, I see the quintessential 21st century Nazi. People should stop following Hogg and stop giving him air time and power and fear him instead for he represents an evil the likes we have not seen in a very long time.
A total of 3 advertisers?
Or maybe – wholly mackerel – 5?
You went to work today and your boss told you that you were going to get a 20% pay cut. How would you feel about that? Hope you have leeway in your budget for the loss of revenue.
The question will be who jumps on… and who will report it.
How about 11. Not a very small amount methinks. Especially after he wouldn’t accept her apology. David Hogg has a very big heart (sic).
Hog has such a good command of the English Language ,, no wonder 4 colleges have rebuked him. No One wants a Pathetic Whiner !!
When Rush Limbaugh was subjected to one of these massive leftist “boycotts”, they traced all of the noise back to something like 10 people. The rest were all bots.
Note to Laura: Retract the apology. Expose the boycotting advertisers on your show and start a counter boycott.
Power knows no limits.
He is a great example of the Dunning-Kruger effect.
He chose to be a public figure. As such, he is not immune to criticism.
When the Left-wing Media has used him up and tossed him aside he will look back on his teenage antics with shame, the same way all of us laugh at our younger selves who thought they knew everything at that age.
He will ask us to forgive and extend mercy. You can do so, but I’ll print out his attack on Ingram and demand he eat his words on national television.
Rags: “Lying about this kid is not a response. It is a concession to weakness that NEVER needs be made.”
Do you not cast a reflection in your own mirrors?
Is there anyone left on this site that you haven’t lied about?
I don’t lie. So, yeah. There are lots of people.
The reason you hate me as you do is because I’m truthful, Little Bill.
Uses the F-word in public then uses the “we’re just children” defense when his objective is questioned. I wish these kids would just go back to eating Tide pods and leave the rest of us alone.
He is legally a child. But I am shocked, shocked, that he cursed.
I have to say you are brilliant to have come up with that astute observation.
If he is legally a child, then he has no standing to lecture people on anything with regard to life issues. He simply has NO experience upon which to make significant life decisions. That is why children have guardians until the age of majority.
His behavior only reinforces his lack of maturity and, therefor, lack of authority to make policy statements for the nation.
Quite true – his defenders can’t make up their minds – either “he’s a child and must not be expected to conduct his tirades maturely or he’s a worthy part the discussion on gun rights.
If he is so delicate that someone ragging on him deserves to have their livelihood he is not adult enough to speak on a subject of Constitutional rights. The adults are using him as a prop in order to prevent people from rightly identifying the foolishness of their screed. Same think they did with Gabby Gifford but at least she was an actual victim.
So you know his birthday? There is a good chance that he is NOT a child as you claim.
When do we get organized and boycott back?
I strongly suspect that like Carbonite and Rush, these companies will lose more business by boycotting than they would by simply ignoring the request for a boycott.
Bottom line: He is a Geek and is all puffed up in self-importance because grownups are actually listening to him.
I would think that a lot of us suffered from this psychosis in the 60’s / 70’s when we thought that our Little Liberal Brains were superior to all others on the planet. I know I did.
The more important question may be where the hell did he get that Ridiculous Leisure Suit?
https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/02/david-hogg-is-fair-game-for-critics/
Some day, likely soon, he will learn that he was a tool to simply be used and tossed aside when he is no longer relevant. The irony is that he will be the source of the material used to mock him into obscurity.
As for colleges, if one was the valedictorian of their high school and they go to a top tier school, they will soon discover that they are but one of 50 valedictorians. Then the real work starts.
And for Hogg, it seems that his life peaked before he hit 18. He won’t even have a story about throwing four touchdowns against Polk High. The only options will be a continued delusion of importance or the shame that comes with being ridden hard and put away wet.
Can’t wait till someone knocks the front teeth out of this little hitler of Soros’.
We were insured with Liberty Mutual: Monday, after we get another policy, we’re canceling the Liberty Mutual policy, along with a letter telling them to go f— themselves: let them survived in Little Hitler’s business.
VOTE WITH YOUR WALLET.
I haven’t seen that they gave in. They were being asked to, but…
Worth repeating. NEVER APOLOGIZE to the left. They see this as weakness and reason/excuse to go for the jugular because they smell blood. I was disappointed she did of all people. Hogg is a punk and it disturbs me how much power he can wield. If it truly were about bringing Americans together, a real man and person who cares would have accepted her apology and move on; to use it as an example as an olive branch. Alas, is anyone really surprised he declined it choosing instead to march on with the boycott? All because of a stupid, harmless comment by a pundit paid to give her opinions. An opinion that had absolutely nothing to do with gun control. It very much is about something beyond this clearly. So much for his empty claim ‘love thy neighbour’.