Cowboys Owner Jerry Jones Won’t Let Players Participate if They Disrespect the Flag
But two weeks ago he kneeled with the team before the anthem…
Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones announced on Sunday that if a player disrespects the flag then he cannot play in the game after a reporter informed him that two players raised their fist after the anthem. From NBC Dallas-Fort Worth:
Jones said “If there’s anything that is disrespectful to the flag then we will not play. Okay? Do you understand? If we are disrespecting the flag then we won’t play, period. But we are going to respect the flag and I’m going to create the perception of it, and we have. I’m not aware and I wouldn’t know what you are talking about, I’m not aware of that but if you say you saw it, then you saw it, but we as a team are very much on the page together, we’ve made our expression that we are together , I’m very supportive of the team, but under no circumstances will the Dallas Cowboys, I don’t care what happens, under no circumstances will we as an organization, or as coaches or players not support and stand and recognize and honor the flag. Period.”
The entire Cowboys team stood for the national anthem on Sunday before the game against the Green Bay Packers. Cowboys players Damontre Moore and David Irving raised their fists after the anthem. Jones did not know about this until a reporter asked him.
Two weeks ago, the entire team, along with Jones, locked arms and knelt before the anthem. Then they all stood, with arms still locked, for the anthem before they played against the Arizona Cardinals.
The National Football League Players Association (NFLPA) was not pleased with Jones’s decision:
NFL players are union members and part of the labor movement that has woven the fabric of America for generations. Our full statement: pic.twitter.com/FMOXvz3G7h
— NFLPA (@NFLPA) October 9, 2017
Miami Dolphins owner Stephen Ross has changed his mind about players kneeling during the anthem because President Donald Trump has made the anthem about patriotism. From The Miami Herald:
“Trump has made [standing for anthem] about patriotism,” Ross said before the Dolphins game against the Tennessee Titans on Sunday. “It’s so important if that’s what the country is looking at to look at [the protest] differently.”
And so Ross now believes all NFL players and certainly his players — the Dolphins have had players kneeling for all but one of their past 19 games dating back to last season — to all stand. Ross wants the Dolphins to stand before Sunday’s game when a military band will play the national anthem.
Despite this change of heart, Kenny Stills, Julius Thomas, and Michael Thomas did not appear on the sideline during the anthem.
Vice President Mike Pence left the San Francisco 49ers/Indianapolis Colts game after some players knelt for the anthem.
I left today’s Colts game because @POTUS and I will not dignify any event that disrespects our soldiers, our Flag, or our National Anthem.
— Vice President Pence (@VP) October 8, 2017
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Of course he takes that public position,he knows the Cowboy fans. But the picture gives a somewhat different point of view.
Excuse me? What else has it ever been about? It’s kind of in the definition of “national anthem”, isn’t it? And what exactly is the kneeling about, if not a defiant rejection of patriotism?
I can’t stand it. Repression everywhere.
https://youtu.be/l8ukak8P2vY
This is more than respect for our flag. Trump and Pence have diced up our national fabric, and to the point where it might now be beyond repair. This is a perilous position for any nation to be in — even an advanced nation like our own. Continuing to ignore this present danger is ignoring history — recent history.
On what planet, and in what way?
“Trump and Pence have diced up our national fabric,…”
Pitiful nonsense.
This is pretty funny…the mad Dr. Obama was surgically slicing and dicing our national fabric before it was cool.
HAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAAHAHAHHAAAAAAA
Those kneeling during the anthem are celebrating the murder of police officers and BLM’s goal of have the police stop bothering blacks while their out robbing, rapping, pimping, dealing, assaulting, rioting and murdering.
If blacks want the police to stop bothering them then they should stop breaking the law.
LOL! Like you, I enjoy making up rumors that nobody could possibly believe. Hang in there! It was several decades before I got to your level.
In other words, of any, leftists can say what they damn well please but response just is not allowed.
If a team knees BEFORE or AFTER the anthem, what does that even mean?
If you take umbrage at that, why?
Remember Tim Tebow?
Except he was kneeing to pray AND the media was outraged!
Yes, REMEMBER Tim Tebow!!! You seem to have forgotten who he is.
Clearly I have not. The point being that kneeling, by itself, has no significance.
Come on it is just a ploy to get everyone kneeling before King Trump. Do you know that……ha
Is YellowSnake a sockpuppet of yours? Asking for a friend.
I’ve never used a sock-puppet. That would be dishonest.
Like saying you’re asking for a “friend”. Liar.
Tim Tebow didn’t kneel during the anthem nor did he kneel to trash America. He definitely did not kneel in solidarity with those who support cop killers. When he knelt, he knelt to thank God.
Zero equivalency there especially since the NFL found Tebow’s conduct to be outrageous unlike that of the Thug Nation protesters.
Yes. I know all that.
Now, see if you can answer the questions I posed. What does kneeling BEFORE or AFTER the anthem even mean?
Because it doesn’t matter if you knell before during or after the National Anthem , the intent is always the same
It means the same thing that it meant when it occurred DURING the national anthem. This is simply a way to justify continuing a practice which the customer base of the NFL finds abhorrent.
If the NFL players want to protest anything, they are free to do it outside the venue. Go on the local cable sports channel. Stand on a soapbox in front of city hall. But, you don’t s**t where you live or work. What do you think would happen if waiters in a restaurant engaged in activities which annoyed the patrons? What about the employees of Walmart? How about the employees of the local bank to dentist office? You got it. They would become unemployment statistics. The NFL p[layers have a very simple decision to make here. Entertain the paying customers by playing the game and leave your activist activities at home and collect a big paycheck or annoy your paying customers by engaging in activist activities, which have nothing to do with your job, and become unemployed. Pretty smiple. Even a person with significant brain damage can figure out which is better.
“It means the same thing that it meant when it occurred DURING the national anthem.”
And you divined that just how?
Is it your thesis that Jerry Jones is a BLM supporter? Every player on the Dallas Cowboys hates his nation?
How do you get this information?
So, Rags, your a smart guy? What is an organized action of kneeling BEFORE or AFTER the national anthem, largely by B/Ms, mean to you? Are they all just adjusting their cups? Are they all experiencing a muscle cramp? Are they all giving a prayer of thanks to God Almighty for their good fortune to be making $1 million dollars a year to run up and down a field with and inflated animal skin [ha ha ha ha ha ha ]? If you truly believe that any of this is the reason why people, who were kneeling DURING the national anthem to protest conditions in America, are kneeling before and after the anthem, then I might have a bridge in NYC to sell you.
“What is an organized action of kneeling BEFORE or AFTER the national anthem, largely by B/Ms, mean to you?”
First, what’s a “B/M”?
Second, not a damned thing.
Really? Have you been living under a rock for the least year? Perhaps you have a mental condition which affects your short term memory. You might want to get that checked out.
Why do you think that these football players have been kneeling before during and after the national anthem for the last year? I can’t wait to here your response to that question.
I’ve answered you question.
You’re the one with the memory problem…and detachment from reality.
When, besides this instance with Dallas, has anyone knelt before or after the anthem, crazy-boi?
clearly it was NOT in prayer or support of the USA.
it was to support kaepernick/BLM
bottom line, fans vote with their wallet and this is one of the most disruptive acts to destroy our once proud republic.
if this was occuring during a Peence admin, you would be outraged, but
since DONALD J TRUMP is POTUS, ou cannot think clearly any longer, sad.
Yeh, no. You’re nuts.
Having never been a “fan” of any professional sport, I don’t too much care about anything players do. No more than any “celebrity”.
I don’t like or support any form of “protest” on the field or on the Olympic medal ceremony.
But I DO look at all this hysteria over a knee here or a knee there as a from of tribal nuttiness.
I DO believe in markets, and I figure all this will sort itself out without any of my veins popping.
“I DO believe in markets,”
The market is at work. You try to pretend otherwise with your ignorant “question” about what it means to take a knee.
A question that you cannot answer, except with your ASSumptions.
No one, not even you, is that stupid.
It is the reality that the disrespectful have been pummeled by the NFL ratings, know they are losing, and have chosen to show there disrespect by kneeling just before/after the anthem, in order to pretend they do not disrespect the flag/anthem.
Everyone knows this except you apparently. Except, you do know it. It’s just diversionary tactics practiced by you progs.
It’s almost always the case, when it quacks, it’s a damn duck.
“If a team knees BEFORE or AFTER the anthem, what does that even mean?”
In normal times I would say that taking a knee before or after the anthem only has a personal or team meaning. To begin the practice after having been called out for disrespecting the flag and anthem has the appearance of the same disrespect just moved to a different time. As with many things it is all about perception.
I think that’s true. And, as evinced here, it means only what a tribe perceives it means.
And by GAWD, they just know it…!!!
It means exactly what they intend by it. Tebow’s kneeling meant an acknowledgment that his success came from Above. These people’s kneeling means a declaration that America is bad.
This whole anthem nonsense arose because the owners in the NFL live in a different world than their customer base. They identify with the rest of the Progressive limousine liberals and view their customers are dumb rubes who NEED professional football.
The NFL has become a joke. First of all, team performance no longer exists. The league hypes individual players and pays them accordingly. I can remember when most of a team would be fired for blowing a 21 point lead at halftime in the Superbowl. Second, the players have become pampered, coddled wimps. Long term brain damage? Big deal. These players are getting compensated in the seven to eight figure range for taking that chance. Oil rig workers, fisherman, LEOs, Firefighters, the military,even convenience store clerks take similar risks for less than $100,000 a year. Usually much less. Third, most of the NFL venues are built with public money and often continually supported with tax breaks. Then, when a better deal comes up, the team moves to another city. And, the owners expect fan loyalty.
The NFL pampers its players and expects its customers to pamper it as well. Surprise! Customers expect entertainment for their money. If they don’t get it, they will go elsewhere to find it.
Well said!
This has ALWAYS been about this nation, the flag, and the National Anthem they represent.
Kaepernick himself said so:
The last part of the quote is what the NFL, the SF 49ers, the team’s owners and coaches, failed to stand against. Using football and his place of employment (the playing field) to protest to use his “platform” knowing it would be broadcast, knowing it would be come “news,” is what brought us to this place, and is taking down the NFL – far faster than a “concussion crisis” ever could.
You “know all that” yet YOU brought up Tim Tebow. LOL
If the NFL says no protests then no protests. Unless you believe this is about free speech and not employers having the right to set workplace rules?
The significance of kneeling, as the NFL is now discovering, is that there is no reason to alienate your customers. Do it on your own time and on your own dime.
This will all end because of $$$ and the NFL will have trashed its own brand for nothing.
“If the NFL says no protests then no protests.”
I’ll point out that taking a knee is not a “protest”, and again note Mr. Tebow.
You ascribe meaning where there isn’t any you can articulate. I could kneel to tie my shoes. It isn’t a protest. Some of the guys on the Cowboys could be offering a prayer.
The whole deal is hysterical. Literally.
What is actually funny is watching you turn yourself inside out attempting to state that kneeling players are not necessarily protesting because they could be praying like Tim Tebow or tying their shoes.LOL
The thing is that the fans know what the players are doing because they are not doing it in a vacuum. They are also talking about why they are doing it.
If before last year a group of players decided to coincidentally kneel together to tie their shoes before or after the anthem nobody would care. If they knelt to pray we already know what the NFL would do.
BUT, as they have been demonstrating by kneeling, continue to demonstrate by kneeling and tell us why they are kneeling, there isn’t much to wonder about is there? LOL
What’s funny is YOU getting all hysterical and ascribing meaning to a vacant gesture.
But, OK. You’ve signaled your virtue here. Cool, groovy, and outasight!
I have done more than “signal my virtue”. I have taken apart your ridiculous assertion that the players kneeling could be doing something other than protesting even while they state that they are kneeling in order to protest. LOL
I have done it logically and politely.
You OTOH, rather than acknowledge the obvious, segue over to ad hominems. This is the sign of someone who wants to argue just to argue. I believe there is a term for that on the internet.
So, run along now because….
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9soGKL1vAk&feature=youtu.be
“…even while they state that they are kneeling in order to protest.”
Really? Why didn’t you say that? What were they “protesting”? Where are the links?
There was no ad hominem. Not on my part. You OTOH HAVE descended into name-calling.
Wavy Gravy! Welcome aboard! LOL!
Y2K: That was brilliant. And oh so apt.
the NFL is a GAME/gambling institution.
and indeed these players need institutionalizing.
watch semi pro/varsity/jayvee. if they start doing the same thing hen you know that the division in this country has reached a no return, turning point.
this is how once great nations die.
“This is more than respect for our flag. Trump and Pence have diced up our national fabric, and to the point where it might now be beyond repair.”
IDK, as a veteran, standing for the presentation of colors with or without the national anthem being played was always about respect. It’s why most folks do so and why at NHL games we remain standing for the playing of “Oh, Canada” and why NFL Players and Coaches stood for the playing of “God Save the Queen” while in London. It’s a simple thing that shows reverence for the sacrifices made by many and gives awareness to the inherent goodness that is America. We’re not perfect as a nation but we’ve grown so much more than most in our short history. Consider that while we talk about “inclusion and unity” right now we have the most diverse Congress ever elected! Moreover what western nation has elected and appointed as many ethnic, religious, gender and sexual orientation minorities to leadership positions (political office) and within the judiciary? Fact is, there’s still work to do but let’s not pretend America is fueled by bigotry and hate – were not.
No, Pres. Trump and VP Pence, for all of the faults both men have (wjich are considerable) this “division” isn’t on them. See, many folks (myself included) have grown tired of being looked down upon as the root of all bad. We’ve grown weary of hearing how, “if only white America” would do XY and Z all would be perfect. It’s funny if you really think about it. I’m the “privileged white guy” but I was born into a poor family with roots firmly in Harlan County Coal and the production of illegal liquor. I went to school with other poor kids; black, brown, whatever and in general none of us cared about skin tone. I joined the Army and while not part of the draft my community has always known, “they draft the white trash first”. While in the Army I was surrounded by the men that would become my lifelong friends and all of us were poor, it just so happened that many of them were black. I used the GI Bill to become the first person in my family to graduate from college. As a husband and father I’ve stuggled at times financially and professionally but have always taught my five multi-ethnic children to judge people not on how they appeared but on who they were. Yet. . . . . .through it all, I’m told that it’s my “white privilege”.
Sorry, I don’t necessarily like Pres. Trump or VP Pence but this division isn’t on them and to believe it is means one must ignore every misstep during the Obama Administration and even the writings of Sen. Obama when he opined, on his own grandmother, “typical white person”. Funny, that coming from a man that went to private schools and was the child of an anthropologist being raised by the first female VP of Hawaii Bank!
See, this “division” has been coming for a long, long time in middle America. We’re “fly over country” and we “cling to our guns and God”. Yet, as long as Democrats could count on the “stupidity of the American voter” they ignored us. Now that they’ve lost that it’s somehow “us” or “Trump” that’s sowing this division. Right. Sure. Okay. But ya know, we’re not nearly as backwards and ignorant as folks wanna believe. Heck, we’ve been on the side of civil rights and justice since before it became “hip” to the east coast crowd. Just take a listen to David Allen Coe’s song “F@@k Anita Bryant” in support of LGBT rights from 30 years ago or Merle Haggards support of interracial marriage from nearly 50 years ago! See, we were “good” until the left decided that “we”: largely working-class, damn near poor, paycheck to paycheck, middle American husbands, wifes, fathers, mothers, sons daughters, veterans, volunteers, PTA members, Cub Scout, Girl Scout Leaders were the “problem” because of our “white privilege”!
Now though when we stand up and say, “hey, wait a damn minute”, we’re creating a division that might never heal! In my poor, eastern Kentucky, moonshine drinking, vegetable growing heart all I can say is, “Bless your heart”.
I’m so old, I can remember an America where we were getting over the “racial divide”. My senior class president in Texas was a black friend of mine, in a very “white” school population. We just didn’t care about extraneous shit.
Then came the “healing” of the Obama years…
When you were a lad, they hadn’t yet figured out how to make victimology profitable. Now there is a vast logistical menagerie of processes for the sole purpose of transferring pennies from taxpayers and large corporations into the hands of victim groups, with as many pennies as possible falling into the hands of those doing the transferring.
That’s pretty true. I remember when Jes….sea Jackson was actually doing some good things. Days go by…
“Bless your heart” in the most positive meaning –
i was born in a German Displaced Persons camp.
my mom’s family was TOTALLY wiped out, my dad had 2 bros that were also survivors.
I came to the USA in Dec 1949 as a baby.
my parents each work 2 jobs to make ends meet as well as going to night school to learn English and Citizenship – No Yiddish as a second language.
i was drafted and also went to school on the GI Bill – otherwise
i would not be able to afford college.
i’m just disgusted by these people who think ‘poor me, i only make Millions/year playing a childs game’.
Every time I see that pic with Jones and the Cowboys, I can’t help but think it looks like someone’s granddad is too old / too drunk to get up off the floor by himself, and he needs help to stand up.
What sticks in my craw is this….when those five murdered Policemen in Dallas were going to be memorialized by those helmet stickers….Jones backed off. So what if he paid a fine or lost draft privileges….instead, he backed the BLM….the folks who supported the murderer.
These are the actions of a craven business man. He’s a bottom line sort of guy….But the NFL is dying. Do you really believe Jones will fire the Black rebellious players?
Is Jones a Bosum-Belly Cronie of Hillary Clinton?
Methinks he made his millions through Cronie-Capitalism perhaps?
How did someone as out of touch as Jones make his Millions and Millions?
Oil and gas.
Thanks.
Cronie-Capitalism at its worst.
Cronie-Capitalism is just another name for “Fascism.”
Really? Can you say “Rex Tillerson”, nutter?
You really are out of your flucking mind.
Good for future President Pence.
I see that L.I. has its own set of trolls also. Ignore them. Their job is to agitate and aggravate and frustrate. Trying to argue with them is pointless.
#IgnoreThem
Regardless of who the thugs intend to offend, their contracts say to stand and show proper respect during the National Anthem. The league should fire everyone who has not stood and fine everyone who has done the hand-on-shoulder act of support to the protestors.
And the courageous lines of locked-arms players are NOT meant to show unity for the flag. The act is intended to show unity for the league. Go back and read what they were saying the weekend that little move started.