Rand Paul and Carly Fiorina fall off the debate main stage
And then there were just seven Republicans.
Fox Business News announced the line up for the January 14, 2016 Republican Debate. This is the last debate before the Iowa caucuses.
Mercifully, we are down to just 7 people on main stage. The Big Names not on stage anymore are Rand Paul and Carly Fiorina.
Jeb is now on the edge, physically and metaphorically.
Looking back, it’s interesting how there has been a realignment. Jeb is moving on down, and Christie fought his way back. What has not changed is Trump in the center position, and a solidifying of what everyone knows — it’s Trump at the top, Cruz as the main challenger.
Carson is a goner. Jeb is a goner. Rubio, Kasich and Christie are vying for the non-Trump, non-Cruz candidacy.
Here’s how things looked at the mid-December 2015 CNN debate:
And for the Fox Business November 2015 debate:
And the CNN September Debate:
And the August Fox News Debate:
Rand Paul will not participate in the undercard debate, his campaign annnounced. Because he has some self-respect.
JUST IN: @RandPaul spokesperson confirms he will not participate in #GOPDebate after failing to make the main stage pic.twitter.com/ViZRqoWOTS
— ABC News Politics (@ABCPolitics) January 12, 2016
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Too bad we won’t be hearing from Paul. I love everything about my home state, but I can’t for the life of me figure out why Kasich is still running. He needs to throw in the rag.
Rand Paul is dead to me. First for his pander bare thing with Ferguson and the Wrong Rev. Al, and lately for joining the execrable puke T-rump in his leftist smear of Cruz.
I wanted to like him, but he wouldn’t let me.
I always thought he was a little creep. He’s also joined in attacking Rubio’s voting attendance, which is far better than his daddy’s in ’08 or ’12.
It is now clear there was never the wide libertarian stripe in the GOP represented by Ron Paul. It never made sense, given the limited national appeal of LP candidates. But now it is clear the majority of Ron’s backers were never libertarians, but the old The Spotlight/Stormfront/white supremacists whose donations he embraced, who have rejected Rand and moved on to Trump.
Every time I speak with self-described libertarians I get a different explanation as to what libertarianism ‘really’ is.
Still too damn many.
There is absolutely zero reason Kasich, Christie and frankly Bush need to be part of this ‘debate’. They aren’t going to win and they have nothing to say people watching want to hear. They’ve lost, get rid of them.
When there are 7 people they get maybe 10-15 minutes MAX to spew some talking points in response to canned questions.
Cut it down to 4 and have an actual DEBATE. Candidates get to ask each other questions and respond to each other.
Are we finally getting rid of the kiddie table?
@Olinser is absolutely correct, cut the number on the stage by half again and then that would be progress. I will actually go one step farther than Olinser at this point and say that it should only be 3. Trump and Cruz then whomever is ahead between Rubio and Carson. Carson has lost already his campaign is just collapsing slower than most.
Next debate should only be 2 period, the 1st and 2nd, the only way there should be 3 in the next debate is if the #2 spot is within 3% of each other.
Reading this while listening to Rubio yammering on Hannity. He does the same thing Fiorina does. String together memorized sentences that mean nothing. Hannity asked Rubio about FBI and Clinton and tried to elicit an answer that if this administration doesn’t go after her for her criminal acts, Rubio would if president. He wouldn’t give that answer.
I’m so tired of hearing slippery politicians say things that don’t commit them to anything.
(Psssst: It’s ‘goner’, not ‘gonner’).
BIDEN/SANDERS 2016
Fixed thx
Fiorino gone. Good. All she does is jump up and down and scream “look at me”, metaphorically speaking.
Christie? Bush? Kasich? Is this a joke?
There should only be 4 people in this debate: Trump, Cruz, Carson, Rubio.
Ben Carson has run out of gas. His poll numbers have been in a steep slide since the unfair attacks about his childhood adventures. At best he might get a cabinet post as HEW honcho.
“Is this a joke?”
Of course. On us. Carson, who is going nowhere, has almost as much support as all three.
Two of those are not natural-born citizens.
We expect a higher class of troll here, so if this delusional bull is the best you have then please seek life elsewhere.
Maybe the fact that a cable station is running Love Story quite often is a prelude to Al Gore getting into the race, as a Democrat of course.
The number of candidates in this debate should be seven divided by the square root of three.
42
Three.
There are only three still in the race.
After Iowa, that little Canadien weasel’s campaign should fall apart.
Nutters for T-rump! Yah…!!!!
at least I support an American born candidate. Cheer up though, nitwits like you will only have about 8 more weeks to cheer on the Canadian.
But nutter, he’s an American.
And you’re allied with Obama, Geraldo, McAnus, McConnell, and the execrable sleaze-ball T-rump.
Born in Canada you nitwit. He’s a diminutive one term senator with an irritating preacher-like speech pattern. His father thinks that God sent him. Unseal your records, Rafael. What are you hiding?
Thousands of Americans have been born on foreign soil, you idiot.
Just how stupid are you? I mean, on a scale of 1 to 10? Eleven?
@PhillyGuy
So you are one of the Ba$t@rd$ who would deny my son the chance to run for president because my wife is German and my son was born in a Hospital in Berlin while I served in Germany? You would look at me and tell me that my son is not a Natural Born Citizen? Seriously?
Well I know you wouldn’t do it in person, I doubt you have the testicular fortitude.
I also have a friend who’s company sent him to Bogata for for 3 years, where he met a beautiful Colombian girl and they had a child and you would say that his daughter is not a natural born citizen?
Do you actually pay attention to what you say and type? Do you realize how deranged you sound?
Its gonna be so much fun to watch your trumpets heads explode when he looses the primaries. Because if the trend continues what will happen with 8 weeks more time is that Cruz will pass Trump in the polls and probably take the first primary by a small margin.
The problem is that people are discovering that Trump has basically reversed every position he has ever taken to run in this campaign and no one believes that he has had some kind of epiphany or unbearable likeness of being.
He just like Rubio is lying to try to get elected.
Kasich does not belong on the stage. His presence will keep people from watching his obnoxiousness.
I will miss Sen. Paul if for no other reason then he’s the only one consistently saying, “How are we going to pay for all this sh#*?”
I think it very dangerous for our republic to allow media corporations and media pollsters to decide who debates. Neither entity has the same goals, needs, and agenda as the American people.
There should only be 3 or 4 people left. Who decides who remains ? Is it a legit. Poll or family pressure ?
You now they kept Kasich around just so he can insult the other candidates, when he should have been banished to the undercard.
…? Why does Jeb Bush still think he has a chance at the nomination? isn’t his poll numbers like at 3% or less…
he seems to be wasting money, doing all of this…
ultimately, Trump is going to be the nominee. 😀
I don’t trust Ted Cruz… mostly because from what I’ve seen of him the GOP establishment seem to want him as the nominee so they can exert some control over him… and he will cater to them… they don’t fund campaigns like his unless they get special favors in return. besides that, Cruz seems to be too mired in politically correctiveness.
….and like Romney …probably won’t take it to Hillary (if she ends up being the nominee…) tho Hillary doesn’t seem electable at this point… due to this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33vZR2IV0Mc
she’ll be lucky if she’s able to avoid prison at this point.
“mostly because from what I’ve seen of him the GOP establishment seem to want him as the nominee so they can exert some control over him”
I think you are getting Cruz and Rubio confuse. Rubio is the GOPe buttboy.
As far as Jeb, he is still in because he is hoping for a brokered convention so that he might be handed the nomination.
How Bush and Kasich are on the main stage in front of Firoini is beyond belief. Bush has spent 100million and he’s only at 2%. HELLO….no body is buying his bull.