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The State is scheduled to begin its closing argument at 1:30PM today, and the defense tomorrow morning. By tomorrow afternoon the jury should have been charged and begun their deliberations.
Judge Nelson, Florida v. Zimmerman
We covered this morning’s charging hearing here:
Zimmerman Trial Day 13: Live Video, Analysis of State’s Closing Argument
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Zimmerman Trial: The Jury Instructions
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2 questions come to mind:
Why in hell would Corey pick BDLR to be lead pros?
What could Bern have been doing that was sooo bad in the pictures Corey used to force him to take this case? Must’ve been a whole flock or sumthin’
Do you really want to know the answer to that question?
Let’s just say it’s a good thing Mr. Doll can’t tell us his story.
I actually laughed aloud. Thanks for the much-needed serotonin!
The old “dead woman or little boy” comes to mind.
I can’t believe they invoked the “I have a dream” reference. Yes – the evaluation of the testimony should be based on the integrity of the information, the logical coherence of the testimony, the relevance of the testimony to the critical questions to be resolved. Her race, physical stature, appearance, etc. have nothing to do with that. But, a jury, if they have any questions about her testimony will only ask for a read back, or perhaps read themselves a transcription of her testimony, and that is where the problem is. Her information was a bit like Kato Kaelin’s testimony in the OJ trial, so confused, unfocused and bizarre, that it was best to just ignore it.
Bernie, you had a lousy witness. Race had nothing to do with it.
This is not the second hour of the state’s argument. It is the second chance for a first hour.
MSM: That closing argument was so powerful, you have no choice but to wonder if Zimmerman would have murdered all of us before the night was out.
I WOULD wonder, but I can’t, becuase he killed me, too.
Damn.
Thanks all for the rapid fire commentary. Reading here beats listening to that whiny voiced idiot.
Question:
Anyone else think the judge’s scheduling of closing arguments totally favors the prosecution? The jury will leave both tonight and tomorrow night with the prosecution’s words in their ears.
Defense has only 3 hours tomorrow morning followed by the prosecution sur-rebuttal(?).
The Prostituters get ‘rebuttal close’ rights no matter what.
What I LIKE is that MoM gets the evening to tune and target his Close to make sure to laugh at BLDR’s supposed ‘points’.
OMG – BLDR just BRAGGED that TM had ‘Skittles that HE DID’NT EVEN STEAL !!! (yelled), HE LEGITIMATELY BOUGHT THEM !!!! ( still yelling) !
Damn – so he’s hinting that ‘black kids always steal, except TM is an exception to that’ ???
REALLY ?????
Oh, Bernie ….. you f’ing AH. Pardon my language.
Good point. (About MOM)
I heard that too! Laughed out loud… I’m pretty sure that’s raaaaaaaacism!
“he didn’t even steal them!” you mean because your average black ‘kid’ would have ?? isn’t that profiling ?
BDLR’s close is unbelievable.
As to “lawyers always being able to weasel both sides,” I am reminded of watching the (lawyer) John Dean, talking to the senate committee investigating Nixon’s crimes, as saying “I told him (Nixon) that there was a cancer growing on his presidency.” Then? Nixon resigned.
So, no. What lawyers said at one time was incriminating evidence against a sitting president was very believable.
Also, even when it’s fictionalized, Americans have tuned in Dragnet, Petty Mason, Ben Matlock. Etc. (As well as Gregory Peck’s performance in To Kill A Mockingbird) … showing that HONESTY is the most highly effective tool you could use. It’s the American way.
BDLR has no case! And, he’s responsible for this terrible travesty of justice! Does he think it goes down the memory hole? Or that hellion half-nelson, interrupting MOM during his close? Is BDLR counting on that? Maybe, it’s too soon to say, but I think Governor Rick Scott is a one-termer.
Why do I think this case represents very clearly what has happened to our Justice System?
France had the Dreyfus Case. France had the revolution that led to bloodshed so great it took that nation down into the sewers.
As to any black racist who thinks blacks win when they riot, I think that pendulum will swing back and hurt them, taking all the gains ever made and flushing the gains down the toilet.
This case, ahead, can be pinned on Rick Scott the “old-fashioned way,” of pinning the tail on the donkey. But in this case it’s an elephant.
Party affiliation has nothing to do with this. Sharpton, Jackson, Crump at al are confirmed Democrats. Without those clowns and the Democrats in the DOJ and White House, this case would never have been brought.
The common denominator is thuggery, avarice (particularly the Trayparents) and greed, none of which is limited to one political party.
But it is only an explicit part of the ideology of ONE party. They both have bad apples. Only one has bad principles that allow for racial prosecutions, set asides, Jim Crow laws and even slavery at one time. It is all of a piece.
Lincoln was a Republican. So was MLK.
Bernard is starting off again with lies.
Has the prosecution proven George Zimmerman lied EVEN ONCE??????
NO!
And O’Mara will calmly point that out several times tomorrow…
Well, this BDLR guy is really pretty awful. He would do well to watch his video-taped performance.
Riveting he is certainly not.
Question – Does the defense trust that the jury will guffaw at the ridiculous assertions of this guy, or should the defense answer every one of Bernie’s loonie deductions?
The defense should IMO answer everything.
BDLR: If Trayvon would have brought a gun to the fight, Zimmerman would have brought a grenade launcher.
Sooooo, the defense opened the trial with an unfunny, short joke, and the prosecution, not to be outdone, closes their end of the trial by telling a really long unfunny joke?
This whole trial has been one long, unfunny joke.
I never thought Florida could top the “hanging chad” …
Never underestimate the people, mostly transplants, residing in God’s waiting room.
Floridiots…
“GeorgeZimmerman “knew that there wasn’t any videotaping out there of this,” so didn’t fall for Serino’s ploy.” Evidence Bernnie to back up this statement- oh sorry there is none.
How could Zimmerman possibly know that? Everybody and his kid brother these days carries a phone that can take videos. Z was screaming and calling attention to himself for nearly a minute. It is entirely possible that somebody in one of the nearby homes might have decided to try and videotape the fight.
Are lawyers allowed to lie in closing arguments or make statements that have no basis in fact? How about MOM letting it slip out that the only reason Trayvon was where he was is because he got suspended from school.
I hate to say this, but I don’t know he names of the streets in my neighborhood. Does tat make me a liar too?
Clearly.
And also a racist and a killer.
I have no idea – no idea – of the name of the street which intersects mine, and it’s forty feet away from my front door. Unreal…
I seldom know the names of any nearby streets to where I live except the one my cottage is on and the ones I travel frequently.
I know the names of two of the three streets in my immediate vicinity (one I live on), and I’ve lived here 16 years.
Memory is clouded the most during times of high stress.
Just shooting someone while in fear for one’s one life ought to qualify as high stress.
OMG ! He just accused GZ of “Intentionally killing the only eye witness to his crime” !!!!
Finally an objection!
I was extremely concerned that I wasn’t seeing/hearing more objections to the outright lies and characterizations of Zimmerman and the facts of the case.
But we can’t expect the prosecution to say “We got nothing!” for their complete closing statement. But that is the truth.
BDLR: “He started ciiiiiirrrcling the caaaaar, because that’s what a person about to commit a crime doooooes.”
Hahahaha. Certainly was what a person about to commit a crime (assault and battery) did in this case.
But I thought circling Z’s car while staring menacingly at him was what a terrified kid, afraid he was about to be raped by a “crazy-ass cracka,” did?
In 59 years I’ve never circled an occupied vehicle.
BDLR: Zimmerman not knowing the street names is about as believable as not know all 57 States.
Good! O’Mara shut him down.
I need to stress how rare it is for a lawyer (in my experience) to have to object during close.
I concur. It is exceptionally rare for an objection to be made during closing. It is even MORE rare for that objection to be sustained like here and an instruction given.
‘hope the jury is taking note of the smack down!
Ragspierre,
I missed that because I was away for a minute. What happened about MOM objecting to the clown?
Well, the thing I caught was that he mischaracterized the law, shifting the burden onto the defendant.
Now it’s full-on Chewbacca Defense. “Does that make sense?” If Trayvon Martin has two hands, you cannot acquit!
Is BDLR really expecting the jury to believe Zimmerman was claiming all the blows, covering his mouth etc, all happened at the same time?
Unfortunately a dumbass like Bernie does in fact believe that it all happened at the same time… even though that is not what GZ was saying.
Uh, BDLR just said that Zimmerman was carrying at 4:00-4:30, when for the entire length of the trial, he was carrying in appendix carry, about 1:30. Just randomly making shit up.
Even John Guy indicated GZ was carrying appendix carry, during his ill-advised wrestling match with Mr. Doll. So now you’ve got two different prosecutors saying two completely different things.
I am sure MOM took note.
What’s your theory of the case, Bernie? Put up or STFU!
he is guilty of murder because he didn’t render CPR after he was dead.. lol
If Trayvon didn’t steal his skittles, you cannot acquit!
BDLR: 4 other white hispanic clones may have aided Zimmerman in his killing spree that night.
I doubt that GZ had spite or ill-will that night, but I have NO doubt that BDLR has spite and ill-will in his heart.
or was that the child abuse, in the 15 seconds he was alive after being shot?
As many times as BDLR has slammed down those Skittles so many times and so hard that they must be powder now, lol.
That way the will dissolve faster when BDLR adds Watermelon cooler and cough syrup to brew “purple drank.”
Don’t know about you but frightened children typically circle MY car when I am observing them. The harder I frown, the faster they circle, until they reach the point of exhaustion. Then I take their Skittles.
Notice how BDLR mentioned “Watermelon” (as opposed to “iced tea”). I bet he doesn’t make that slip again.
The new protected minority: young teen burglers and home invaders.
It would be so cool if Bernie had a close encounter with some nice Burglar-Americans who decided to paid him a visit late one night, while he was home alone.
Oh my god, he had TO FLASHLIGHTS!!!!!!
TWO
I hate to think what he would make of me. “Oh my God he carries TWO guns!”
Two flashlights = RACIST!
BDLR: “Profile” literally means “want to murder”. Look it up.
Skittles he didn’t even Steal, from 7-eleven. Now who is profiling?
Did he even listen to the witness’ testimony? I think not.
man todays twitter meme seems to be if GZ had not stalked TM he would be alive. my replies are if TM mother/stepmother had not dumped him onto someone else he would still be alive.
damned family does not want to accept responsibility for its broken household.
You don’t know the half of it. Nearly everyone of my friends have bought into this as well as the “GZ hunted down that unarmed child…” It’s like a religion to them. And, in my opinion, this is at least they third time they’ve gone down this road. The other times were the Duke Rape Case, and Tawana Brawley. In some ways, Jena 6 can be included in that bag as well. You know what they say about the definition of insanity.
you need new friends
And if TM had just run the 400 yards to his dad’s fiance’s house when he told Rachel the “creepy *ss cracker” was “following” him, he’d still be alive.
400 ft.
BDLR: Zimmerman had two flashlights in case he broke one bashing his nose with it.
Did he just say, “They only come out at night” ?
Flashback to Aliens: “They mostly come out at night. Mostly.”
The wisdom of Newt.
This is terrible. boring. rambling. incoherent. repetitive. And that’s just the style.
TM aka The Shark spent too much time circling the car, would have been home and safe, but instead decided to go back and circle it again when GZ charged! LOL
“I shot him in the T-T” would have saved Zimmerman.
Using “torso” is dead-bang guilt.
MEET THE POLICE CHIEF WHO WAS FIRED FOR REFUSING TO VIOLATE GEORGE ZIMMERMAN’S RIGHTS
The one that really cracks me up is that despite the fact that Dee Dee has lied to every single person she has spoken or testified to we should believe what she said in court. How stupid does BDLR thing these jurors are?
They have never shown the jury in the courtroom on camera. Are they all drooling like vegetables and wearing diapers or something? Have they all had frontal lobotomies? He acts like they have.
Saw a tweet that one of the jurors (Hispanic nurse) was conspicuously ignoring BdlR. Let us hope…
BDLR’ s foul mouth is screwing up the sanitized audio feed. Would somebody PLEASE slap that fool for me?!?
The line ends back there. . ..no, I mean way back there. . ..keep walking, you’ll find it.
BDLR talking to jury as if they’re idiots.
I don’t think that’s peculiar to the jury. I think he talks to everyone that way.
He probably orders a pizza like that, too.
Isnt it true! you have peperoni in a medium size?
“I said I wanted the fkucing anchovies ON THE SIDE!”
If he orders pizza like that, I bet he gets a lot of spit pizzas.
Haha, the original version of my comment was going to say: “He probably orders dinner like that. I’ll bet he eats a lot of spit.”
The elderly couple whose address was tweeted by Spike Lee has been asked by SPD to vacate their house on the day of the verdict!
F*ck me! No violence, huh, Sharpton? Hope this couple sues these race pimps into insolvency!
Source, Fabi?
The Internet? Wikipedia?
I saw it on a blog’s feed. I’ll see if I can find a formal link…
Tweet from @bobkealing – 8:25 am.
Thanks Fabi. He doesn’t offer a source either, just says it.
No offense to you intended. I wanted to tell a friend, but I don’t like passing things along unless I can verify it myself first.
Completely understand. WESH may have more info – that’s the station he works for…
He’s a reporter from WESH.
I’ll see what I can find from them. Thanks again. 🙂
That whole subdivision should vacate..
Fabi, do you have a source? Don’t doubt you at all, just wondering if this will make the news.
Tweet from @bobkealing – 8:25 am. He is, I believe, a journalist of some sort – wish I had more info. Will look into it…
Best Buys, Jewelry stores, Footlockers…need to board up and have sharp shooters on the roof…
Tomorrow Mom plays the audio ” looks like he is on drugs” then the video pans into the toxicology report. 😉
BDLR: “Was he going for his phone, or was he going for his gun?”
And of course, Martin was justified in punching Zimmerman because Martin knew Zimmerman was reaching for a gun under his jacket, because Martin had on night-vision goggles and could see through both the darkness and the clothing.
He has lost these women with the decibel level & cuss words .
He lost those women when he started insulting their intelligence….
Wasn’t there a lady who lived beside that street and didn’t know the name of it?
Jenna Lauer did testify to that effect.
Yes, Jenna Lauer who was also on the HOA board and a member of Neighborhood Watch.
Expect MoM to use the phrase “EVEN IF” a lot in addressing BDLR’s close.
BDLR: Only murders don’t use teleprompters when giving police statements.
I don’t think BDLR has found reasonable doubt in Zimmerman’s story yet… let alone prove anything as to an alternate theory.
BDLR came out of the closet: a racist.
This was supposed a reply to a comment way, way back.
Not to be picky but I believe it was a “pit latrine” as opposed to a “closet.”
BDLR “Why does he have to lie about that? Because he doesn’t want to admit he was following this innocent young boy”
LOL. Right, because trying to keep a stranger in your line of vision, so that you can report his location to the police dispatcher you’re talking to, is a serious crime.
What exactly would police have charged Z with? Unlawfully walking in the grass?
This closing epitomizes straw man argumentation. So purported inconsistencies = no self defense & second degree murder? This is a travesty.
MOM’s opening sentence{s):
This is the most unusual case of my career.
Never before have I found myself trying to counter a prosecution that asks a jury to convict on the grounds that we don’t know exactly what happened.
Never before have I found myself next to a prosecution team that makes their case rely on reasonable doubt.
What should I do?
Thank them?
Ask them how much do I owe them?
nicely put. very well spoken.
I wouldn’t be surprised if he does bring that up to some degree, I think it is a valid point
Other than that very last sentence (which could come off poorly to a jury), that really is not a bad way to open.
BDLR: The radio station Zimmerman listens to played the U2 song “Streets with no name” nearly two months before his shooting spree. That’s how, and how long ago Zimmerman started crafting his crafty alibi.
Did De La Whatever really say ‘innocent young boy’?
Look, no on on this planet believes Trayvon was an ‘innocent young boy’, not even the cloistered jurors, and throwing that pretense around can do nothing but hurt.
This case is weird as hell. It’s almost as if the prosecution is trying to prove reasonable doubt of not guilty.
Since DeLa claims an “innocent young boy”, can MOM mention a few of the Saint’s transgression during his close to rebut?
No. He can’t argue about things that are not in evidence.
Just had a camera shot of GZ’s dad. Based on the look he was giving BDLR, if BDLR was on fire, GZSr would get marshmallows.
in some kind of weird logic is he trying to prove there is so much doubt about self defense that the only option left is that it must be murder?
BDLR: Now, watch this clip from season 4 of Matlock, where an innocent guy talks about his gun–nothing like what Zimmerman said.
MOM should put on the hoodie and demonstrate how he towers over Zimmerman.
What does any of BLDR’s closing have to do with proving Anything regarding “beyond a reasonable doubt”!?
By any rational standards one might as well get out the radar gun and measure how fast the prosecution’s throwing this case.
But no world where Al Sharpton’s got a network gig is truly rational, so I remain guarded…
this is ridiculous. my knowledge of the law – in particular the laws pertaining to criminal prosecutions – is that the state MUST PROVE ITS CASE BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT USING ALL LEGAL MEANS. not to make the defense prove its case. the burden of proof lies with the state, not Zimmerman. that’s the state’s job, not the part of the defense.
so now we have a prosecutor throwing out a number of scenarios to consider, all encompassing both the murder 2 and the manslaughter charge, rather than sticking to one theme and reinforcing that. talk about grasping at straws.
this new trend of trying a case in the court of public opinion and then relying on that is failing miserably. it didn’t work with OJ, it didn’t work with Casey Anthony, and it’s not working here. in all cases, they relied on shock and scandal on the part of the public and then put extremely weak prosecutions forward. I can’t wait to hear MOM’s closing arguments, and I am curious to see how the prosecution will change it’s argument – again – too counter. because mark my words, they will. this is a schizophrenic prosecution, to say the very least.
You’re being way too logical. Clearly GZ is guilty or BdlR wouldn’t be doing his daily aerobics in front of the jury…
Oh, and LOUD! THAT’S MORE PROOF! LOUD! ANOTHER LIE!!
WTF is the prosecution’s theory of the case? It’s getting muddier by the minutr.
All I heard was that he was guilty because he got out of his car, and followed TM and then lied about how things went down many times. that’s his proof of murder.
LOL, even Angela Corey is giving BDLR dirty looks.
I saw that. She looked about ready to commit 3rd degree felony murder on BDLR by going back in time to abuse him to death as a child.
“We have no idea what happened that night. You must therefore convict George Zimmerman of murder.”
BDLR: Notice Zimmerman never mentioned what he had for breakfast? Was he afraid he’d get caught lying about that too?
It’s like the prosecution expects the jury to be thinking “if I vote not guilty I’m gonna get beaten up in the parking lot” so as long as I give them a fig leaf to vote guilty they’ll take it.
Andrew – THE MAGIC VIDEO MOMENT OF THE DAY !!!!! Priceless capture for your site , summarizes the entire prostituters case in a 5 second vid !
3:38 EST – BLDR running across the courtroom, SKIPPING LIKE A LITTLE GIRL, SINGING TRA_LA_LA OUT LOUD !!!!
OMF’NG G!!!!!
No. He did. not. do. that.
Srsly?
Seriously.
He owes me a new keyboard.
Yes, he went there. For reals.
Skipping? Singing? Why?
His idea of imitating GZ, I think.
But please don’t ask ANYHONE to explain BDLR rationally ….
If the skip is the shit, you can’t acquit!
I hope to God I see that in an animated .gif before the day is out.
Needs to be a vid, capture the vocal.
Un feaking real. Give me +/- a minute or two on that timestamp, 3:39 might be better, but it’s there !
Somebody really should explain to BDLR that there is a big difference between stalking somebody, and merely walking behind somebody and trying to keep the person in your line of sight so that you can give their location to the police.
Stalking requires a malicious intent. Walking behind someone who is behaving suspiciously in your neighborhood, or trying to see where the person went so that you can provide their location to the police, is not malicious.
Zimmerman had no reason to make up a story or lie about what he was doing, because he wasn’t doing anything wrong.
“stalking requires malicious intent.”
there it is right there.
BLDR: we have been able to prove malicious intent for murder, let’s go for stalking now. yeah, that sounds like it could work…..
give me a break. will be interesting to see what happens to the careers of BLDR, corey, and nelson after this. “down in flames” is a quote i’d love to hear in connection there.
Awwww, BDLR was mad he hadn’t gotten to play with the doll.
How do you think that hole the size of a belly button got there ?
Sorry if this is a repeat, but having read pro-Trayvon folks, they tend to view “following” perhaps in a different way than most folks do. For instance, GZ may have followed to find out what was going on. But these other folks view it as a very provocative act, that almost always means you intend to harm.
Adding this from BDLR shows how he is willing to stir up racial tensions. If that’s BDLR’s intent, it is disgusting. It reminds me of the Media trying to stir up racial tension.
Yes, I can’t even remember how many times I’ve read some variation of the “Zimmerman must be convicted because he got out of his truck and followed Trayvon” argument.
Zimmerman had every right to get out of his truck, and he had every right to walk around to try and see which direction Martin had gone. Arguing that Martin had the right to jump and beat on Zimmerman simply because Martin didn’t like Zimmerman walking behind him is idiotic.
Right. However, there is no denying this resonates with a certain sub-culture in America. Not guilty in law, but guilty as according to how they would live their lives. Even the appearance of following is to be avoided.
I was nodding off when BDLR yelled there so I suspect the jury was as well.
“I guess I might as well do what everyone else has done and get on the dummy.”
Are.
You.
Effing.
Kidding.
Me.
(And he’s not “the dummy.” His name is Mr. Doll. Give him the respect he deserves.)
No, the name is Trayvon Inflatable-Martin
Assume the position!
‘My, what a cute little hole you have there ! Doing anything later ?’
Oh no. Don’t do it, Bernie! Remember, when you date an inflatable doll, you date everyone who has dated that doll.
Don’t believe me? See this sad tale from Genitourinary Medicine 1993 (vol. 69, page 322).
If GZ is convicted, I will lose all remaining faith in the American criminal justice system. What has become of our country that the justice process can be so perverted by the state?
He makes a good point. He has convinced me the gun never came out.
BDLR: User Lib4life, commenting on the DailyKos.com sums up the heart of the case. “If Zimmerman didn’t plan on murdering someone, why did he have a gun?”. Think about it.
That actually gets to the heart of why so many liberals believe GZ should be convicted. He had a gun and a permit to carry it and must therefore be punished.
No one should be allowed to carry a gun except police, rich liberals’ body guards and poor gang bangers who are trying to defend themselves against the man.
Lib4life is one of the resident trolls over at HotAir.
It’s him and libfreeordie.
They don’t venture away fro DU much, lately
He makes a good point. I have to think of the tens of thousands of people I’ve murdered. And that’s just today! Lot’s of daylight left – watch out!
“The Truth Does Not LIE!!!”
??????
Hard to argue with the man on that one ….
I would like to give my thanks to Andrew and the many posters here, especially the lawyers, for their insights. Your patience with my many uneducated, and in retrospect sometimes silly, questions is much appreciated.
I have never followed a trial as closely as this before. I have read of them but never actually listened to almost every minute of one. I have done so in this case because I believe that this trial, with or without without mob intervention, will affect our ability to defend ourselves for years to come.
I am, in fact almost in withdrawals- I haven’t been to the shooting range since this trial began. Heck the last time I went more than four days without a visit to the range was because I was hospitalized!
This trial will affect us all and one can only hope and pray that GZ is acquitted on all charges in this political mockery of a trial.
WTF are my tax dollars financing this idiot’s salary?
The Hannity interview was significant mistake by MOM. No doubt about it. There was no need for it and I wish MOM had never agreed to it.
As far as friend Osterman. With friends like that, who needs enemies. He writes a book that contains statements the prosecution you can use against his best friend. He’s so greedy and publicity hungry that he can’t wait until the trial is over to publish the book.
I hope neither of these mistakes hurts GZ.
While you may be right about him giving ammo to the persecution I don’t think that greed was a fair description. My understanding is that he donated the proceeds to GZ defense fund.
@raider3 That’s an ignorant comment. ALL of the proceeds of Osterman’s book go to Zimmerman’s defense fund. He doesn’t get one damn dime.
Perhaps you could be that greedy some day, after you get your head out of your ass.
Ain’t Bernie’s time up yet? I can hear that sumbitch and my tv’s on MUTE!
BDLR’s close is the courtroom equivalent of a massive episode of diarrhea — just pouring it all out in the desperate hope that something substantive will eventually emerge. All I can see is a pathetic display of histrionics, hyperbolic dramatization, calculated distortions of Zimmerman’s account of events, omissions, etc.
With all of the histrionics, I am kind of concerned for BDLR’s health. He seems to be close to hyperventilating quite a bit. And he’s kind of older and obviously not in the best shape. Are there medical personnel on hand, you know, just in case?
Dr Bao is outside..
Tied up, I hope.
Bao and Rao – the Doggy Doctors !
Bow wow !
Get it ?
Har har har …..
Well Cazinger from what’s been reported about the Hispanic nurse juror looking away – I doubt she will be much inclined to CPR….
Fear not! Mr. Potato Head 2.0 comes with a bag of replaceable organs.
oh, that’s what the bag of skittles is for, his brain matter LOL
ah, the hurricane Katrina argument….another race bait attempt there.
BDLR: He knew how to talk. He knew how to make it self defense. Following wasn’t illegal. Why did he LIE about it?
Honestly, only right answer is he didn’t think he was, since GZ is so smart to make up a defense on the spot, and be relatively consistent about it.
BDLR is clearly rushing through his presentation now. He’s just throwing up slides and barely commenting on them.
From what I saw, the slides were about using law instead of public pressure. Thats why he’s rushing through them.
There is reasonable doubt here as a matter of law. Prosecution concedes as much. Amazing this is going to a jury. Truly amazing.
Hurricane Katrina was not a thundershower? And my aunt’s not my uncle…
Quelle est la pertinence?
So far, I have that BDLR SAYING Zimmerman is lying is proof beyond reasonable doubt.
Which I kinda reasonably doubt…
It really sounds to me the state is trying to convince the jury that if there is any reasonable, doubt must convict.
Wow.
…*they* must convict.-
Yeah Seriously??? Wow….
With commenting on the substance of anything he has said, if I were a juror, I would tune BDLR out in about 5 minutes. His manor of addressing the jury is HORRIBLE. He comes across as “You’ve got to be STUPID to not see what I’m telling you!”
On the substance of his remarks, I’ve not heard him use the word “proves” a single time. Maybe he has. I haven’t heard it. I also have not heard him make conclusatory arguments at all. All his arguments are questions.
Yeah, I don’t recall him saying “the evidence has shown” or “the evidence proves” or anything else like that at any point during his closing.
‘He comes across as “You’ve got to be STUPID to not see what I’m telling you!”’
That is what people who have to raise their voices in order to make a point usually are saying. You want people to really listen to you? Then lower your voice. Sometime it is to your advantage to lower your voice to the point that they have to concentrate to hear you.
“Without”
BDLR CLOSING = 98% DRAMA, FANTASY, FICTION 2%FACT
The truthful parts of each sentence were the words “the”, “and”, “or”, and “I.”
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I don’t understand that line that’s been repeated so often that “the screaming stops when the gunshot goes off.”
Regardless of who you think was screaming, why would they keep screaming after the shot?
It was just a coincidence that the punches stopped being thrown at the same time the gunshot was heard, right Bernie?
At last, a great close – his mouth.
Did Bernie really ask the jury how GZ did ‘what he had to do?’
I’m actually embarassed for him now.