Congresswoman Michele Bachmann’s request for investigations into several ties between the U.S. government and the radical Islamist group the Muslim Brotherhood seems to have struck a nerve.
Bachmann, along with four other U.S. Representatives, have requested, in a series of letters sent from the five U.S. representatives, that several key issues be explored. Among those concerns mentioned is the connection between the family of Huma Abedin, Deputy Chief of Staff to Hillary Clinton, and the Muslim Brotherhood.
Central to the questions with Abedin, and the others, is first, a fact issue: Do these people in fact have ties, primary or through friends or relatives, to radical Islamist groups?
Second is whether, if indeed the concerns are proved accurate, we should be concerned as to their proximity and influence on United States foreign policy.
Senator John McCain was one of the first to express outrage at the suggestion that Huma Abadin’s family ties–her father, brother, and mother are involved with the Islamist group–would warrant investigation.
Ed Rollins, Bachmann’s former campaign chief, piled on, detailing his disgust at Bachmann’s queries in a piece entitled “Shame on You, Michele Bachmann”:
I have to say that Congresswoman Michele Bachmann’s outrageous and false charges against a top aide to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, Huma Abedin reaches that threshold.
Her unsubstantiated charge against Abedin, a widely respected top aide to Secretary Hillary Clinton, accusing her of some sort of far-fetched connection to the Muslim brotherhood, is extreme and dishonest.
Having worked for Congressman Bachman’s campaign for president, I am fully aware that she sometimes has difficulty with her facts, but this is downright vicious and reaches the late Senator Joe McCarthy level.
Josh Robin of Foreign Policy defended Abedin’s mother, Dr. Saleha Abedin:
In fact, Saleha Abedin is a leading voice on women’s rights in the Muslim world and is a member of dozens of organizations. Her main job is as the director of the Institute of Muslim Minority Affairs at the Global Peace Initiative of Women, an organization that promotes dialogue and cooperation among women of various religions.
The fact is, Dr. Abedin does have strong ties to the Muslim Brotherhood, and has in fact expressed opinions that, if Robin considered them, might change his view that she is a “leading voice on women’s rights.”
Dr. Abedin has led the International Islamic Committee for Woman and Child for several years, which (via google translator) expresses radical Islamist opinions on its site.
Take, for example, female genital mutilation (FGM). On the website for the organization that Dr. Abedin runs, the opinion on laws prohibiting female genital mutilation is presented (note, google translation from Arabic). First the given law is presented, and then Dr. Abedin’s group’s reaction to it follows. In this case, that the “criminalization of female genital mutilation (FGM), clashed [with] and [is] completely incompatible with Islamic law”:
Article 116 bis (b) in the Children’s Act amended: “Without prejudice to any severer penalty provided for in other law shall be punished by imprisonment for not less than three months and not exceeding two years or a fine of not less than one thousand pounds and not exceeding five thousand pounds each of conducted or engaged in the conduct of a female circumcision. “
D / Sheikh Abdul Fattah
Confirmed that he personally rejected these amendments fully, especially the item on the rhythm of punishment including his daughter circumcised, either the father or the mother or the doctor; may not be criminalized or prohibition of origin is permissible in Islam.
International Islamic Committee for Women and Children
The criminalization of female genital mutilation (FGM), clashed and completely incompatible with Islamic law, which did not provide for the prohibition, as Dr. Yusuf al-Qaradawi is one of the drafters of the Charter, where he says:
“Juristic evidence and consensus on the inevitability of medical male circumcision only, while scholars differed in the female genital mutilation did not collect the mustahabb but they differed between being a duty or honor or desirable)
Dr. Abedin’s organization also rejects laws prohibiting child marriage, saying that age requirements for marriage “crash the provisions of Islamic law”:
Article 7 bis (d):
May not be documented marriage contract is not a gender-eight ten full calendar years, and required documentation to be a medical examination for those wishing to marry to check themselves free of the diseases that affect the lives or health of both of them or the health of their offspring, informing them about the outcome of this examination, shall be determined by these diseases and screening procedures, types and licensees by a decision of the Minister of Health in agreement with the Minister of Justice.
Violation of the provisions of the preceding paragraph, imprisonment for a term not exceeding three months and a fine of not less than five hundred pounds and not exceeding one thousand pounds or either penalty.
Opinion of the Committee jurisprudence in the Islamic Research Academy:
Article (7) bis (d) after the study:
This article is not approved by the Commission; they crash the provisions of Islamic law, which authorizes the marriage before that age; The medical examination is not a condition of marriage to be valid.
These are just two examples of the information contained on Huma Abedin’s mother’s website.
Is this reason enough to have concerns about the influence her daughter, Huma Abedin, might have as the closest aide to our Secretary of State? That is up to the American public, but at the very least we can see that simple investigations turn up information that might lead a journalist like Robin to reconsider his pronouncement.
In the meantime, the attacks on Michele Bachmann reveal their time-worn tactic to attack the messenger, distract from the facts, and throw in Joe McCarthy for good measure. Bachmann has produced facts to back up all her requested investigations; it is up to the American people to demand their representatives back her up and the facts become known.
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Accusing someone of McCarthyism is one of those polarizing idiocies of the lazy minded. Seems to be a parallel to Godwin’s law, but instead of bringing up Hitler, you invoke Joe McCarthy.
McCarthy was right in his assessment of progressive corruption advanced from inside America. He was wrong to believe that authority would be sufficient to quell its influence. Still, to his credit, at least he put forth the effort (and accepted the risk) to expose the negative influence within American society.
That said, the corruption which plagues American society has far exceeded left-wing ideological standards. As men and women in greater numbers perceive reality contained within the totality of their mortal years, they implicitly reject their children’s future and undermine the viability of their nation. This is most notably observed in a majority of a population who reproduce in the minority. This is evolutionary dysfunction evident after only a single succeeding generation.
Anyway, at least Muslims do not consider submission to be a virtue. Perhaps there is something to be learned from their many fanatics. Our own fanatics either miss the point entirely or are so self-interested that they are willing to normalize behaviors which are clearly dysfunctional other than to satiate selfish interests.
I remember that at one time not too long ago it was also a “fact” that the HPV vaccine caused mental retardation.
Someone that has been wrong once can never be right again? I’m glad most of the world isn’t held do your intellectual standards. Certainly science would not be where it is today. Also you should note that there is a large difference between calling for an investigation into something and pronouncing something as a fact.
US Dept of State is run by foreign diplomats who are not elected and can never be fired. They are the reson why America’s foreign policy ALWAYS end in disaster.
The US Dept of State is also the reason why sexual apartheid across the globe is on the rise, Hilary Clinton (as did Condi Rice) are prefectly willing to give lip service to women’s rights but then always bow to Islamist demands.
Anyone believes that the State Dept, Clinton, Rice, Saleha Abedin, Huma Abedin, Liberalism, the Democrat PArty, the UN give one iota of thought to sexual apartheid around the globe is deluded by a false sense of do-gooder.
(And people want Condi Rice for VP? If you really look at what she accomplished as Sec of State all you will find is appeasement and compliance towards oppressive totalitarian states. She is best left to remain stuck in her preferred environment where intellectuals in their Ivy Towers inbred their idiocy)
Career track foreign service people are protected by civil service law.
They certainly can be fired. It is hard, but can be done.
Just like the careerists in DoD, DoJ, and Do-whatever, they TEND to be homogeneous Collectivists, which is a real, lingering danger to our country.
What’s the rumpus?
To the extent that someone is calling for an investigation of Huma’s influences, I think that is good and on the side of the angels.
Sunlight…disinfectant… That whole thing.
I wish it was done more at State, the CIA, Treasury, the FBI, ATF…
And there is Ed Rollins again. I never understood what Bachmann was thinking by choosing him to be her campaign manager and why she never fired him outright while he was undermining her campaign from the top. He seems to be the designated anti-Bachmann hit man for the dirty GOP establishment globalists.
yeah this always bugged me too. seemed she was sabotaged by him right from the start.
Didn’t crazy eddie have a stroke a while back, or, is he dating Meghan McCain? After the last few days, I’m not sure if I should stop drinking or just put it into overdrive.
Just to give a different perspective here. While these things seem radical to us, to them they are normal. There is nothing radical about it.
While this gets often overlooked in this country there are two tracts of The Muslim Brotherhood, as well as Hamas and other terrorists groups. There is the violent side, but there is also a charitable side. That is why they are able to get elected. They help the poor with their bills, get food, and other things. You can look at it as the same type of thing that happens in this country with welfare.
She may very well have family that are “in” that organization, but that doesn’t mean that they are terrorists. We need to understand who these organizations work in order to deal with them correctly. By ignoring this side of these organizations we are doing ourselves no favor, but that is going to be the key to getting people there to stop supporting them.
I lived in the Middle East and still travel there. Not every Muslim is out to kill us and overtake our way of life. We need to educate ourselves in order to fight the ones who are.
They may not be terrorists but they have aligned themselves with an organization that uses terrorism, along with charitable work, to achieve its goals.
Hmmm…OK, so if a white male Christian belongs to an organization full of white supremacist bigots and Klansmen, we shouldn’t be suspicious of him.
No, we should look at all of the good works that the organization trumpets about itself.
Yeah, right.
BS islam is islam. there is no such thing as a “moderate” muslim. I have seen the saying “I learned all I need to know about islam on 9/11.”
For me, judicious research into the evil known as islam formed my opinion. anyone who practices the evil known as islam is evil. You cannot reason with or trust violent, inbred, misogynistic, pedophiliac, necrophiliac,barbarians that think they have the duty and right to stone women, cut their clitoris’ off, rape and brainwash children, abuse animals and torture and kill for fun.
If liberals had not blocked and continue to block using our own resources, we wouldn’t have to deal with these cretins at all. And muslim immigration should have been stopped on 9/12. Forever.
Look up Mark Steyn’s excellent piece that refutes what you are saying.
Islam has gotten a LOT worse in just the last few decades. It was a great deal less crazy, as you can see depicted in photos.
Lie down with dogs, get up with fleas.
I would have to disagree with you for a number of reasons.
First off you cannot disconnect the charitable side of these organizations from the Islamist side of these organizations. If the American Red Cross was helping women and children in one country while brutalizing women and children in another I would not find it acceptable to donate money to their organization. Period. Even if they spend 95% of their budget on aid and 5% on bombs, how can you justify your money being spent killing innocents?
Secondly, although I agree with you that supporting these organizations does not make you a terrorist, it does certainly mean that you are supporting terrorists. (See point one).
Thirdly, I would say that if her parents have any involvement with these organizations it is worth investigation. We should determine what kind of interest her family has in these organizations to determine whether or not Ms. Abedin has any conflict of interest in performing her job duties. It would be no different than a member of the House Appropriations Committee having a family member that works for a Defense Contractor.
I agree with that.
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Does anyone take John McCain seriously anymore?
I take John McCain seriously. He is seriously a rino, seriously a coward in the face of progressive junk yard dogs and is seriously a mental midget that embraces the democratic lie of “bipartisanship”. Except for picking Sarah Palin for VP, the man has done nothing politically, to help the USA; since he was shot down in Vietnam.
And it’s the very patriotic John McCain who seems to be more concerned about the radical Islamist group than us.
That’s the ticket right there, Rosalie; he’s more concerned about how he looks to the Muslim Brotherhood and its fellow travelers, the world’s liberal progressives, than how he looks to the American people. He has definitely been turned somewhere along the way.
Here’s — in part — what Diana West today has to say about JM’s floor speech:
“Huma’s bona fides aside, it’s impossible to resist noting that John McCain is the guy who went to Benghazi last year to vouch for the al-Qaeda-linked “rebels.” “They are my heroes,” the AZ senator said on a tour of the city that took him to the very spot where his “heroes” had publicly cut off the head of a Qaddafi supporter a couple of weeks earlier.”
just a conservative girl said: ” Not every Muslim is out to kill us and overtake our way of life. We need to educate ourselves in order to fight the ones who are.”
True. But, how willing are the “nice Muslims” to turn in the ones who will kill us? How do we know who the future backstabbers are, and who isn’t? The radical Muslims will force the moderates to toe the line of violence. Moderates won’t make the radicals toe the line of peace.
More than likely you are responding to a cair or dnc or soros troll that could really care less than nothing for logic, morality or any constructive debate from a conservative. It’s all covered in the Quran, lie cheat steal kill to further the assimilation or death of infidels.
If I knew the answer to that I would be a very wealthy woman. The situation is far more complicated than making sweeping generalizations about a billion people. It isn’t black and white as we like to make things. It would be far easier if it were.
Queen of the straw men.
“The situation is far more complicated than making sweeping generalizations about a billion people. It isn’t black and white as we like to make things.”
Then all of these good Muslims of whom you speak should forever denounce terrorism, persecution of (destruction of Christian churches, etc.), and war against Christianity and Judaism; embrace the concept of Jews and Christians as worthy of respect, their religions of worthy of tolerance; accept free speech and eliminate the speech/thought code that seemingly has a billion triggers for rioting/killing every time someone offends a Muslim.
Then we can talk. Or rather, then YOU can talk.
I’m waiting.
Your comments reveal a degree of naivete about the geo-political state of affairs, just a conservative girl. May I encourage you to consider the fact that you’re failing to see the big picture. Or, perhaps you’re here deliberately to counter our legitimate concerns.
I am married to a terrorism and national security analyst. I don’t deny serious and very real concerns.
There is no leading credible expert in the world that puts the extremists at more than 14%. While that is a very high and scary number, that is what it is.
One of the reasons that I rarely comment on anything that is related to this topic is this.
Your approach is academic. Come down from the ivory towers and see what the (allegedly)only 14% of Islamists are inciting another roughly 85% into doing.
The Muslims condemning terrorism are few and far between. Probably less than 1%. And that’s the number that really counts.
P.S. That 14% is too exact for credibility. Analysts are never that exact when dealing with large numbers/groups; for something like this, they might round to the nearest 5, as in “approximately 15%,” but more likely a range, “10 to 15%” or “15 to 20%.” I’m calling “nonsense” and “poppycock,” not to use stronger language.
“There is no leading credible expert in the world that puts the extremists at more than 14%.”
S-l-o-w reading will keep you from making obvious silly statements.
“The Muslims condemning terrorism are few and far between. Probably less than 1%. And that’s the number that really counts.”
Support, please.
Ragsp…
The 1% explained: In all my years following current events, I have seen fewer than a half-dozen Muslims speak out against Islamic terrorism, and call upon Islam to reform itself to modern standards. Contrast that with hundreds of quotes from various Islamists around the globe, including leaders of “the religion of peace.” Besides which, the “less than 1%” is a rhetorical device to express “vanishingly small.”
…as opposed to a ceiling of 14%, as opposed, I suppose, to 15 or 13? Unrealistic. The sample is too enormous, scattered about the globe, shifting and changing constantly. It is effectively uncountable. Like world population; it’s the same order of magnitude. Yet some analyst is pinpointing it to within approximately 10 million? Even though we’d be hard-pressed to count the whole to within 10 million? Sorry, not buying. You’re welcome if you want to.
Oh, and…I’m done talking to you. You can keep spouting, but I won’t be answering.
So…
the 1% is your opinion. Fine. You are entitled. It is hardly an authority, though. Right?
“…that puts the extremists at [no] more than 14%.”
Which is saying, “In the range of 0-14%”.
Bub-eye.
Here’s an academic exercise for you. If there are 1B muslims in the world and only 14% are mean and evil and kill people, that means there are approximately 140M wackjob muslims. That is nearly half the population of the US. That is not benign. That should scare the caca out of all of us.
Apparently you and your terrorism and national security analyst husband are totally unconcerned about the goals of the OIC, the inroads they’ve made in silencing FREE SPEECH across Europe, and the financing by the Saudis — 200 billion dollars worth — of Mosque construction in Europe.
Nothing to see here, folks; move along.
texan…
I sort of agree, but I am a LOT more scared of the tendency to ignore actual, proximate threats like Maj. Hassan because of fuzzy thinking. And you can see some pretty fuzzy thinking on all points of the compass, if you see my meaning.
Ladies and gentlemen, what’s will all the ThoughtPolicing?
There is no straw-man fallacy, or troll, and “SHUT UP” is a Collectivist mode of “discussion”.
Isn’t it?
Characterizing legitimate questions about a highly specific set of facts – the possible terrorist associations of the family of the closest advisor to the Secrteary of State – as “making sweeping generalizations about a billion people” is a textbook example of a straw man argument.
Read this again…
https://legalinsurrection.com/2012/07/dont-let-the-facts-on-huma-abedins-family-get-in-the-way-of-attacking-michele-bachmann/comment-page-1/#comment-355998
She makes several statements…several of which I take exception to…but you misconstrue the gist of her comment to get to your fallacious accusation of the straw man fallacy.
The IRA was a terrorist organization that had a “non-terrorist” wing for PR purposes. They understood…as does the MBH…that politics, atmospherics, messaging, and terror tactics are complimentary.
Don’t be silly.
She is answering this querry:
True. But, how willing are the “nice Muslims” to turn in the ones who will kill us? How do we know who the future backstabbers are, and who isn’t?
Her reply is responsive; it is NOT a straw-man:
If I knew the answer to that I would be a very wealthy woman. The situation is far more complicated than making sweeping generalizations about a billion people.
You are mistaken.
Right?
No.
Isn’t this the same Huma Abedin who’s married to disgraced former Congressman Anthony Weiner (D-NY)?
Wonder what her supposedly Muslim Brotherhood-affiliated mother thinks of her daughter being married to a Jooo? (Or of the alternate theory that the marriage is just a cover for the fact that she really, really loves her boss. Which might explain Weiner’s antics.) It’s a miracle she hasn’t been honor-killed yet.
Huma-Weiner’s “marriage” was a sham as he played the beard to Huma – gotta keep the wraps on her VERY longtime and intimate homosexual relationship with Hellry.
Let nothing in my previous comment imply that I have any issue with Michele Bachmann’s desired investigation. I’m all for it. I was just musing on some of the oddities of Abedin’s case in particular.
Valerie Jarret is Iranian-
So there’s that.
Jarrett was born in Shiraz, Iran to American parents James E. Bowman and Barbara Taylor Bowman. Her father, a pathologist and geneticist, ran a hospital for children in Shiraz, 1950, as part of a program where American doctors and agricultural experts sought to help jump-start developing countries’ health and farming efforts. When she was five, the family moved to London for one year, returning to Chicago in 1963.
the connection between the family of Huma Abadin, Deputy Chief of Staff to Hillary Clinton, and the Muslim Brotherhood.
Remember this for when Hillary runs for President. You know she’s going to and opposition research needs to be done now.
The problem inherent in the criticism is that people have the right to be Islamist. This is like accusing someone of being Amish. Because America is a place of diversity, e plurabis unum, it’s not really cool to attack someone’s cultural practices.
Should evangelical Christian have Congress look into their connections to whatever kind of groups?
It is just stupid, stupid politics. Bachmann needs to go or be seriously reprimanded by Boehner.
“The problem inherent in the criticism is that people have the right to be Islamist.”
Um, no, they don’t. Not in THIS country. Islamism is a radical ideology that seeks to destroy our society, our Judeo-Christian religious tradition, and representative government. We don’t have to put up with traitors and Fifth Columnists in our midst. If you think Islamism is so swell, go live in Europe — it’s being overrun by Islamism because of squishy folks like you.
“This is like accusing someone of being Amish.”
FALLACY ALERT! I don’t recall Amish people hijacking airliners, flying them into buildings, beheading journalists, murdering people whose religion they disagree with…
“Because America is a place of diversity, e plurabis unum, it’s not really cool to attack someone’s cultural practices.”
We have a right to attack cultural practices that seek to destroy our country and our way of life. Whether you like it or not. Oh, and you contradict yourself, hotshot. Diversity is “encouraging and celebrating our differences. That’s 180 degrees opposite of “From many, one.” (Yоu misspelled “pluribus.” Look at a coin. That is, if you’re even in America.)
“It is just stupid, stupid politics. Bachmann needs to go or be seriously reprimanded by Boehner.”
Seriously? That’s called Stalinism! She has a right to raise these questions. This is, as you point out America. She has a right to be heard.
…but only if she doesn’t criticize politically correct sacred cows, apparently.
Wow, 6 “hates.” An all-time record for me.
Methinks the trolls are a-trollin’ today. This post really hit a nerve.
RINO TRAITOR AMNESTY-JOHN mccain is not just an embarrassment to all patriotic citizens in his home state of Arizona, he and his RINO pals are an embarrassment to ALL American citizens.
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I am glad some people are finally waking up to and asking questions. I have been disturbed by the connections for a while.
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