Report: Elon Musk Might Not Form Third Party, Wants to Keep Ties With JD Vance
I don’t know if Musk will go full MAGA again, but I wouldn’t dismiss the idea.
According to The Wall Street Journal, Tesla CEO Elon Musk has halted forming the American Party to keep ties with Republicans, especially Vice President JD Vance.
I highly doubted it would become the party Musk wanted because people like Andrew Yang and Mark Cuban reached out. Those guys are nowhere near being fiscally conservative.
There is no need to form another party. I wanted Musk to jump in and kick some common sense into the Libertarian Party.
I’m a libertarian, but I refuse to join the party.
People view Vance as President Donald Trump’s heir, which I can see. I know some wish it would be Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, but Vance has shown his ability as a leader and to be quick on his feet.
Musk and his associates have told people close to him that he is considering using some of his vast financial resources to back Vance if he decides to run for president in 2028, some of the people said. Musk spent close to $300 million to support Trump and other Republicans in the 2024 election.
Musk’s allies said he hasn’t formally ruled out creating a new party and could change his mind as the midterm elections near.
But Musk and his team haven’t engaged with many prominent individuals who have voiced support for the idea of a new party or could be a crucial resource to help it get off the ground, including by assisting with getting on the ballot in crucial states. His associates canceled a late-July call with an outside group that specializes in organizing third-party campaigns, according to a person with direct knowledge of the matter. Participants were told that the meeting was canceled because Musk wanted to focus on running his businesses, the person said.
Musk and Trump fell out a few months ago over the “Big, Beautiful Bill,” trading barbs on social media.
The two men acted like toddlers, airing out their dirty laundry for all to see. They were attached at the hip, so you would think they could discuss any disagreements behind closed doors like two adults.
Maybe they did, and everything blew up, causing the public outbursts.
Either way, things have calmed down between the men. At the end of July, Trump even said he wants Elon’s companies “to thrive.”
Who knows if Musk will go full MAGA again, but it’s possible. Vance appears to be the bridge between Trump and Musk. He hopes Musk comes around by midterms in 2026.
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We’re glad he wore a tie…
Now do Zelinsky and Fetterman… 🙂
Deep flaws in wisdom are evident in the young that change but persist until about age 60. Then at least smart people begin to show wisdom.
Hence Musk and Vance both, vs for example Trump.
Most evident is the decline in dogma – Trump admires ambiguity, but Musk and Vance want to stamp it out.
The ambiguity can be detected as humor but that’s its point.
“ I’m a libertarian, but I refuse to join the party.”
Same here. The party is even more of a punchline than Harvard.
The party that preaches liberty, then nominates Drug and Gun Warrior Bob Barr and Full-On Political Whore Bill Weld… thanks but thanks no more.
A far comedown from the days of Ron Paul, and even Harry Browne, when I was an activist..
After considering myself aligned with the Libertarian party in the 1980s, and having associated with many of its members at the time, I can tell you that today’s LP has no connection whatsoever to libertarian ideals.
Before the 2020 elections, a co-worker, being aware of my political bent, told me that I should investigate Andrew Yang. She said, “He’s a libertarian.” So I looked up his campaign web site and got about two lines into the copy when I realized 1.) he’s no libertarian; and 2.) my co-worker has no idea what libertarianism is actually about. Like most of our institutions, it’s been infiltrated by communists (posing as socialists while pretending to be Libertarians).
“I’m a dude playing a dude disguised as another dude.”
The LP has always been plagued by completely unaffiliated whackjobs claiming to be fellow travelers, and the press was always eager to smear the party with them.
The big boogeyman prior to Y2K was Lyndon LaRouche. LaRouche was a former Trotskyist, a virulent antisemite, a financial cheat who served five years in prison, and a Democrat. He never claimed to be a Libertarian, and the Libertarians never claimed LaRouche. But some jackass at Time Magazine ran ONE photo of LaRouche with the caption “Unbridled Libertarian” and the damage was done for decades.
LaRouche once created a PAC for his own candidates called the “National Democratic Policy Committee.” Illinois voters actually elected two of his statewide candidates under the misimpression that they were candidates of the Democratic Party (NYT). In fact, the old fraud parlayed this confusion into an official meeting with Mexico’s President Portillo, who thought the same thing.
The faux libertarian grifters do/have done lots of damage. So much that many misinformed people mistakenly conflate anarchists with libertarians.
Folks think it’s hard to get ‘normal’ center/right ‘conservatives’ motivated enough to engage and get involved in local politics b/c these folks tend not to be interested in ‘joining’. They should try getting libertarian minded folks organized. If trying it with normies is like ‘herding cats’ then for libertarians it is like herding rogue elephants.
Libertarian Party.?
It’s not real and an embarrassment to anyone to say that that’s what they support
And it was Musk that was throwing the tantrums, not President Trump
End of story
Which specific policy ideas based on libertarian philosophy do you object to?
I think what gonzo poorly communicates is that it doesn’t have a consistent platform to coalesce a party because frame of argument can transform libertarianism into twisted ideals from either perspective.
For instance, restricting curriculum and locker room admittance is by no means totalitarian but if you frame it as “BaNnInG BoOkS” and “GeNoCiDe” you can suddenly justify transgender grooming and locker room abuses of privacy as libertarian ideals.
Similar things are framed with abortion arguments in libertarian circles. Libertarianism also starts to fall apart when it devolves into advocacy for anarchy over any support of law enforcement, and criminal justice. Don’t even get me started on immigration.
President Trump took Musk into the fold of the Oval Office. The pictures of him with his son were somewhat reminiscent of JFK. It looked like a genuine friendship was blossoming between the two.
All musk had to do was shut the hell up and walk away if he had a problem with anything Trump was doing.
But that’s not what he did.
My respect for Elon Musk has completely changed.
He can take his new political party, and whatever else, and shove it.
I’m done with him.
The more this thing develops, the more staged it looks. My tinfoil hat has maintained for a long time that this “breakup” was orchestrated to confuse the proggies, who might have been in the process of launching some concerted counterattack on the gains we made with DOGE.
Sorry, but I’m not on board with this assessment. I think it was, as it appeared.
What we really need from Musk isn’t a rival party that is in opposition to the candidates of the GoP when those same GoP remain faithful to values and policy preferences of their constituents and actually do in DC what they promised to do when campaigning for office.
Instead we could absolutely use a well funded set of candidates in both primaries and on a selective basis in general elections to challenge and turn out the rinos, the ‘deceptacons’ especially in the Senate. Folks like Cornyn, Graham, Lankford as three examples of GoP politicians who represent solidly Red States but always seem to find a reason to ‘grow and evolve’ once elected and end up voting far more lefty/liberal than the constituents who sent them DC.
https://conventionofstates.com
Forming a 3rd Party when you can’t run for President doesn’t make a lot of sense unless you plan to play Machiavelli in the background.
It’s actually a stronger business plan than the one in which the founder is the candidate. You don’t see George Soros running for stuff; he concentrates on everybody else’s campaigns.