James Comey Wrecked Institutions, But Fury Over ‘86 47’ Post Is Way Overblown
“And James Comey, in my view, should be held accountable and put behind bars for this.”
As the world now knows, in a since-deleted Instagram post, former FBI Director James Comey shared a photo of seashells arranged to depict the numbers “86 47.” The caption read: “Cool shell formation on my beach walk.”
According to the Oxford English Dictionary, “86” means to “eject or bar (someone) from a restaurant, bar, etc.” or to “reject, discard, or cancel.” The entry further notes that, as a noun, it is used in the service industry to indicate a menu item is unavailable or that a customer is not to be served.
The Urban Dictionary includes those definitions but adds a darker connotation: “It can also refer to ‘killing’ or ‘executing judicially,’ sometimes with a connection to grave dimensions.” Surely, Comey was aware of this interpretation when he crafted his ill-considered post.
Later, likely feigning surprise at having just learned of the term’s more sinister connotation, he deleted his original post. In a follow-up, he wrote: “I didn’t realize some folks associate those numbers with violence. It never occurred to me, but I oppose violence of any kind, so I took the post down.”
Given that there have already been two assassination attempts against President Donald Trump, our 47th president, this was no laughing matter. The former FBI director should have known better.
One could argue that Comey’s intention was to provoke a mentally unstable individual into committing an act of violence against the president. And while that may be true, such a charge would be impossible, or at least extremely difficult, to prove in a court of law. I am not a lawyer, but it seems to me that, ultimately, he was exercising his right to free speech.
Although Comey was widely—and rightly—criticized on social media for his post, Republicans are now literally making a federal case out of it. Did they forget that MAGA supporters were buying “86 46” hats and t-shirts during the Biden administration? Although this merchandise wasn’t sold by the Trump campaign, I don’t recall any complaints from the GOP.
And Republicans have used the term “86” themselves.
We’ve now 86’d:
McCarthy
McDaniel
McConnellBetter days are ahead for the Republican Party. https://t.co/qZEZ7s9Ly6
— Matt Gaetz (@mattgaetz) February 28, 2024
86 46
— Jack Poso 🇺🇸 (@JackPosobiec) January 30, 2022
Just as Democrats’ misguided sympathy for an MS-13 gang member was politically costly, the Trump administration’s aggressive push to prosecute Comey risks overreach and could end up making them look foolish.
Weighing in on the post, Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard told Fox News that Comey belongs “behind bars.”
“Any other person with the position of influence that he has, people who take very seriously what a guy of his stature, his experience and what the propaganda media has built him up to be, I’m very concerned for the president’s life,” she said.
“We’ve already seen assassination attempts. I’m very concerned for his life. And James Comey, in my view, should be held accountable and put behind bars for this.”
James Comey just issued a call to action to murder the President of the United States.
As a former FBI Director and someone who spent most of his career prosecuting mobsters and gangsters, he knew exactly what he was doing and must be held accountable under the full force of the… pic.twitter.com/zvbu5Vf0zg
— DNI Tulsi Gabbard (@DNIGabbard) May 16, 2025
On Friday, Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem announced on X that Secret Service agents had “interviewed disgraced former FBI Director Comey regarding a social media post calling for the assassination of President Trump.” [Emphasis added.]
NOW 🚨 DHS Secretary Noem comments on Secret Service agents interviewing former FBI Director Comey today regarding his social media post calling to assassinate President Trump: pic.twitter.com/RYOzYrtT8M
— Live From America TV (@LFATVUS) May 17, 2025
Asked about the post during a Friday evening interview with Fox News, Trump called Comey “a dirty cop” and that he is.
As FBI director, he abused his power to undermine Trump’s chances of winning the 2016 election. Under his leadership, the FBI launched Crossfire Hurricane—a dubious counterintelligence investigation into alleged ties between Trump and the Kremlin. That inquiry ultimately led to Robert Mueller’s 22-month special counsel probe. Subsequent reviews into the origins of both investigations concluded that neither had a legitimate predicate.
Comey authorized the use of informants inside the Trump campaign. Despite knowing that the Steele dossier was opposition research funded by Hillary Clinton’s campaign and the Democratic National Committee, he used it as the central basis for an application—and three subsequent renewals—for a FISA warrant to surveil low-level Trump campaign advisor Carter Page, thus gaining access to internal campaign communications.
After Trump’s unexpected victory, Comey set out to destroy his presidency. During the 2017 transition, he famously briefed then-President-elect Trump on the Steele dossier, describing it as “unverified and salacious.” He then informed former CIA Director John Brennan that Trump had been briefed. Brennan, in turn, signaled to the media that it was safe to run the story. BuzzFeed promptly published the full dossier, triggering a media firestorm. This was merely the first of many betrayals that would follow.
If not for the fact that the media was in on it, Comey’s treasonous behavior throughout his last year in office would have been the story of the century.
His actions at that time were deplorable and dishonorable. His comments to the media since that time have been reprehensible as well. But, as reckless as his Instagram post was, it is not a hill worth dying on for the Republicans.
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“Later, likely feigning surprise at having just learned of the term’s more sinister connotation, he deleted his original post. In a follow-up, he wrote: “I didn’t realize some folks associate those numbers with violence.”
Folks=you rubes clinging to your Bibles and guns.
What a jerk.
I didnt know the meaning of “86”
However, Comey was the FBI director, investigating the mob, terror organizations, and other criminal activity. He knew exactly what 86 meant.
Wasn’t Comey supposed to be fighting stochastic terror, not instigating it?
Why would being the FBI director make him familiar with some obscure definition of a common word? “Eighty-six” is a common word that every native English-speaker knows, but few if any know of its use to mean violence.
You are a moron.
And his time fighting the mafia in NY didn’t teach him anything about 86ing someone…. Yup… Brilliant u r not
Meant to upvote. Sorry, AF.
i suppose you think he was referring to Maxwell Smart ….
No, why would he be referring to Agent 86? He was using the term from which Smart’s number was derived; a term that to normal people has no implications of violence. Urbandictionary is not a reliable source for anything.
Why wouldn’t being FBI director make him familiar?
If only Comey was honest, but nothing can be believed if his lips are moving, except by some.
Why would it? Seriously, since when is it part of an FBI director’s job to immerse himself in urbandictionary?
You are the one that made the assertion as if you knew. But you don’t. That is the counter assertion. A fact.
And it’s unlikely that Comey fell out of a truck from China. He’s been in law enforcement forever, likely before the urban dictionary even existed. So that is a silly argument you persist in ad nauseum.
Comey prosecuted a mobster, and testimony included the mobster saying to 86 someone when he wanted them killed.
I’m going to give John Kass the last word here.
https://johnkassnews.com/deep-state-littlefinger-james-comey-removes-his-mask/
FBI personal are trained in mobster, gang, and outlaw terminology, hand signs, tattoos, branding, etc. That’s why he would know. You think they keep a thesaurus next to them when the wire tap or interview a suspect?
“Personal”?!
Also, Comey was not “FBI personnel”, if that’s what you meant. He never worked for the FBI until he was appointed director.
And it is not in evidence that this is a definition that an AUSA, a USA, or an FBI director would be expected to know.
He was also served as a deferal prosecutor since the 1980s. Such a bumpkin.
Milhouse – Almost every profession has terminology that is unique to that profession and very well known within that profession. Because he works in a field with elements that uses that term, I suspect that he is quite familiar with the term. .
That’s simply not true. The violent connotations behind “86” are not even remotely obscure.
Eighty-six is slang meaning “to throw out,” “to get rid of,” or “to refuse service to.” It comes from 1930s soda-counter slang meaning that an item was sold out. There is varying anecdotal evidence about why the term eighty-six was used, but the most common theory is that it is rhyming slang for nix.
So, if the former head of the SVR in Russia had posted a meme using the idiomatic equivalent Russian expression targeting Putin, would the US gov’t take that seriously as a threat to Putin? Or insert whatever foreign nation you like there.
Comey has normalized the threats against anyone not a Democrat. Now Rep Nancy Mace has to deal with murder threats from a crazed gender bender.
Now that it is OK to shoot the president, now it is OK to lie in wait to murder the president, now it is acceptable to have a former FBI nutbag call for the murder of the president, you are OK with that
You and your fellow democrats, who by the way decided it was a good idea to try to murder republicans at a baseball game, you can carry that with you to your deathbed.
You democrats are F’ing crazy. .
… “investigating” the mob,..
Disband the FBI. Fire every g damned one of them. Name and shame them.
These TERRORISTS abuse their office by raiding the homes of people who did not do anything wrong, except be in DC on January 6.
Maybe we should 86 the FBI. And yes I mean it. Nix the whole fucking organization. We don’t need a NAZI jack boot terrorist squad in the US.
And Kash Patel needs to go with them. Dan Bongino needs to go with them. Worthless anti American bastards.
Pam Bondi has a bigger dick than Kash and Dan together. But she is as worthless as that on a boar.
Yes, 86 the FBI, I’ve been saying that for at least 25 years. Start a new organization from the ground up, and don’t hire anyone for it who worked for the FBI.
But your attack on Patel and Bongino is pathetic.
Also, none of this has anything to do with the topic, which is not the FBI but Comey, who hasn’t had anything to do with the FBI for the last eight years.
The FBI as constituted today, and run by Patel and Bongino, is no different than the FBi that abused Americans for the last 4 years. And those bastards have the audacity this week to demand, DEMAND that their identities be protected.
Those people are still employed, those people still have weapons and badges, and those people have not been held to account by Patel and Bongino. Tough talk from paper tigers. I had great faith in their appointments, and they are DISMAL FAILURES.
You are a pathetic excuse for a pretend conservative.
fwiw – my discussions with FBI personell and federal prosecutors is that the field offices are very non – political. Whereas the washington dc office is hyper democrat.
That may be true @Joe-Dallas, but the fact remains that every FIB agent was either complicit in the harassment of Americans, or sat quietly and watched what happened and failed to do anything about it. In my book, every FIB agent is poison. The agency needs to be disbanded and every agent needs to be denied federal law enforcement jobs ever on the future.
Patel and Bongino keep saying “wait and see.” We have been waiting for decades and seeing absolutely nothing.
Comey, Bongino, and Patel are all visible proof of the rot at that agency. Old and new.
Comey knows how to troll Trump and his supporters. With one little picture he has ignited hundreds of thousands, maybe even millions, of Trump supporters into going apeshit. I predict that as summer approaches, you will see thousands of these sea shell 86 47 designs on beaches everywhere.
At least you finally and publicly admit, you are not a Trump supporter, and are clearly a Democrat mouthpiece.
LI can at times be a bigger version of Justice Milhouse in its bad hot takes 😂
This was an incredibly stupid thing for this moron to do, and he knew full well what he was doing. So everything coming his way will be well and truly deserved.
Now trying to say that Republicans are just as bad is about as tone deaf as it comes. The biggest difference being it’s not Conservatives attempting to kill former president or conservatives burning down entire cities or conservatives burning down businesses that don’t politically align with them (and I’m not talking about not buying their products either)!
However it is conservatives who have had no hesitation whatsoever in using exactly the same term for Democrats, and they know very well that they didn’t mean violence, so it is completely dishonest and disgusting to attribute such a meaning when a Democrat uses the same term.
You’re a real treasure …. willing to back your tribe no matter what.
Comey’s smart enough to know the leftist bloc in your party would take it as wishing death on Trump. He’s playing to his audience. OF COURSE he denies having any such intent.
Comey’s consistently acted in bad faith since Trump was elected in 2016. His claim that he had no idea it meant that has zero credibility.
IF YOU WERE SMART, you’d say “Geez, what a dumbass he is” and be done with it.
Fuck off you fucking libelous fucking liar. How dare you impugn my integrity, and how dare you accuse me of being a Democrat? You know damn well that that is a lie. It’s more than a lie, it’s slander. In all my years here I have more than demonstrated that I have nothing in common with Democrats.
And then to accuse me of basing my opinions on whose ox is gored? That is what you do. You do that all the fucking time, and it is disgusting. No decent person, no matter where they are on the political spectrum, checks whose ox is gored before deciding where they stand on something. But at least half the commenters here do exactly that, and that makes them evil evil people, who belong to the Devil.
Any time you say that someone who expresses an opinion that helps a Democrat must be a Democrat, you are showing that that is your standard, and that makes you evil.
Then why do you keep ACTING like one?
I have the same belief.
Now that is some hilarious anger. Milhouse, you spend hours every day here picking apart people’s comments for the slightest supposed mistakes, and then you start ranting like a mental patient when someone accuses you of being a Democrat? Even throwing out words like “libelous?”
Get the hell over it. You act like a complete asshole, so don’t start whining when someone acts like an asshole towards you in return. Grow a thicker skin.
While I disagree with milhouse on this topic, most every other topic, milhouse is correct. Lets everyone show a little more maturity and humbleness, especially since milhouse is typically correct and rational.
Conservatives are not deceptive players like Comey. Ironic how you trust him so.
What the fuck are you talking about? What has trust got to do with it? Conservatives used exactly the same term and did not mean violence, and now they turn around and accuse him of meaning violence?! Anyone who makes such an accusation shows himself to lack even a shred of honesty.
You take his word at face value. Defend him and laugh at context. Now you sound like a Democrat with the profanity.
You have NO IDEA if he was intentionally engaged in incitement but vomit the Urban Dictionary. HA!
I saw that “86 46” hats and tees were for sale (post-Comey incident). I never saw anyone wearing one. And this wasn’t some nobody walking around with a t-shirt or hat. This was the former director of the FBI tweeting out to how many people? There are still people (idiots, mostly) who listen to and respect him. Stupid, suggestible people. This is not the same thing as hats and t-shirts. Also, nobody that I’m aware of made a credible attempt on Biden’s life, whether or not the “86 46” message got around. We’re living a different world now where attempts on the life of a sitting POTUS are applauded by a substantial portion of our idiot population.
None of that matters. The fact is that conservatives, including prominent ones, used the term, and did not mean violence, and no one did anything to them, or said anything about it, so it’s dishonest to treat him differently.
And even if he had actually and openly called for Trump’s assassination, it would be protected speech, and any call by an official to prosecute him for it would violate that person’s oath. Gabbard swore an oath to uphold the constitution and she just took a crap on it. I don’t think it’s bad enough that she should resign for it, but she should definitely be required to apologize and to demonstrate her understanding of the freedom of speech.
You were proven wrong and another thread where a former white supremacist write a poem called “The Sniper” when Obama was president and got 33 months.
I’m farking sorry, Milhouse?
There’s been three attempted assassination attempts, and you don’t think it matters?
REALLY?
Awe look at you defending the indefensible sweetie 😂😂😂
If roles were reversed, the Democrats would use the incident as a pretext for persecution.
Persecution is the only tool that the Democrats know. Including Just Us Milhouse.
No, they wouldn’t, because they didn’t. Republicans did use this term and no one was prosecuted, or even investigated, for two reasons:
1. It’s not a call for violence
2. Even if it were, that is protected speech.
Because the context is much different. Context escapes some.
How many attempts were made on President Biden’s life?
Was there a very obvious positive response to both attempts to kill DJT?
The answer to these questions are “zero” and “yes.”
We live in a post-Trump assassination attempt world in which “call & response” from Leftists to their unhinged followers is something that must be reckoned with. If Comey doesn’t understand this, he had no business being the director of the FBI (aside from other disqualifying flaws).
It doesn’t matter how many attempts there were on Biden or Trump. Neither of those would affect the English language, and neither of those would affect the freedom of speech. I don’t care if there are ten attempts to kill Trump, it remains the sacred right of every person to call for his assassination if that’s what they want to do. And the US government must absolutely respect this right, no matter what the consequences. Because the moment it doesn’t Trump becomes exactly the tyrant that his enemies accuse him of being, and in that case he would deserve to be assassinated.
However free speech or not the Secret Service has a job to do and has the right to investigate any threat against the president. Now in this case it was probably a conversation like “really James you know better” But if they show up and find a bus ticket to DC, a sniper rifle, and a map of the white house grounds you are probably going to jail at least for a day or two while they check things out.
Ever hear the word “zeitgeist“? (I’m sure you have.) Times have changed. We live in a time when attempts on the life of a POTUS are applauded. The meaning of the term didn’t change, but it’s use within today’s context suggests the possibility that the word is being used in another way than is usual. The word “gay” has a very long history of meaning “happy,” and it can still be used that way. But today, it is most often not used that way because the times have supported an alternate meaning that has become dominant. “Regulate” in the Constitution means “to make regular,” yet is interpreted today as if it’s from the vernacular, “to control,” which is wrong because that’s taking its use out of its historic context.
Even the more gentle translation of “86,” “to remove,” can have sinister connotations. Again, concerning the source (a trained LE officer, familiar with underworld “code words” who has stage 5 TDS) and the zeitgeist (two recent attempts on the life of DJT), an interpretation of “kill” is not untowards.
Milhouse is more interested in letting the left keep up their campaign of terror than putting an end to it.
“This is not who we are.”
“No they wouldn’t?”
You’re an absolute idiot. The Democrats do this sort of thing ALL THE TIME.
Let’s see… there’s Trump’s “bloodbath” comment, which the Democrats and their media lapdogs decided meant that Trump wanted political violence if he lost:
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-bloodbath-loses-election-2024-rcna143746
Then there’s the “very fine people” comment, which they decided meant that he supported white supremacists:
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/08/trump-defends-white-nationalist-protesters-some-very-fine-people-on-both-sides/537012/
By the way, since you’re a nitpicking asshole who likes to tear apart people’s comments for the slightest errors (whether they actually make one or not), Halcyon Daze didn’t say that they would be PROSECUTED. The comment said “pretext for persecution,” which is different. The Democrats absolutely would use such comments as grounds for persecution.
He is an attention seeking loser, who clearly hasn’t moved on with his life since Trump last term. He needed back into the Trump hating media machine, probably trying to get a gig on the palestinian news network or MS nobody watches me again. Well he got the attention he was so craving, just not sure he’ll get as much hysterical sympathy as last time, when the media told us to feel oh so sad about his poor little severance package and pension. Boo hoo! The media didn’t care when Gina Raimondo destroyed my father’s retirement as a teacher in RI, she got a plumb job in the Biden administration as her reward. The NY times declared she was “skillful and charasmatic.” Yup she’s great at screwing fire fighters, police and teachers out of their pensions. But poor lil’ Comey, his little bitty pension is like so wicked unfair. My answer to the Comey’s of the world: ignore them. That is the worst punishment you could give to him.
He’s selling a book. That means he is an attention whore.
I’ve followed lots of authors online. I’ve never seen any of them post a call for assassination to drum up attention for a book.
This is (D)ifferent.
This is an interesting, ironic bit of information:
“You can’t make this up:
James Comey JUST published a crime novel about prosecuting a right-wing media personality for stochastic terror threats.”
https://x.com/DougMackeyCase/status/1923488430152970368
OK, so if a post said: “Let’s 86 Comey for the good of the country” does anyone really feel that it was intended to keep Comey out of Happy Hour?
Comey was already eighty-sixed. Trump did that the first time around. And yes, that is what eighty-six means. Exactly what Trump did to Comey.
now you’re just being silly. Being fired isn’t being “86’d.”
Yes, it can mean that. Milhouse is attempting to convince readers here that in the context of Comey’s tweet “86” doesn’t mean “kill.” Comey knew it could be interpreted in more ways than one, but that doesn’t mean he wasn’t intending it to be a threat.
DJT isn’t an item on a goddamn menu.
Not only “can” it mean that, it does mean that. That is the only definition any normal person knows. The violent definition is apparently found only on urbandictionary, or at least that’s the only source I’ve seen cited. That’s the same source Sheldon Whitehouse relied on when he beclowned himself over “boof”, and we all laughed at him then.
I already posted the full definition from m-w.com, and proved to you that your accusations of scrubbing were paranoid nonsense.
This is reply to your last.
Please see my posts elsewhere about LE training. There’s every reason to believe that “86” means when used by someone with an LE background. They know it means that.
Yes, that is exactly what 86 means. It’s what it’s always meant, and it’s the only definition any normal person knows.
I already posted the definition from m-w.com, which has not been scrubbed or changed in any way, contrary to the paranoid suspicions of some commenters.
…anyone who hasn’t watched Goodfellas… Sopranos…
It can actually mean that. I have never used that term because I’m old enough to know that it has alternate meanings as well and I don’t want anyone thinking I’m suggesting violence.
He should be investigated and called before congress to testify. He should then be ridiculed as an ignorant fool with no credibility. Just destroy whatever reputation he has left. To go to the trouble of prosecuting him if it even is prosecutable is just silly. There are bigger and more important things to worry about then the acting out of a man child with hurt feelings.
If that were to happen, it ought not take the the “You’re wishing death on Trump” approach.
The approach should be (1) There have already been two attempts on the man’s life. (2) people in / sympathetic to your party (please don’t pretend your not a Dem) routinely express the desire that Trump be killed. Indeed, after the first failed attempt, there were plenty of your tribe lamenting that the shooter’s aim wasn’t better. (3) You know full well there are loons in your party. (4) You chose to post something guaranteed to rile up the loons. (5) you’re supposedly a serious person (at least, we know you’d like to think so). (6) Given which, shouldn’t we have a right to expect you won’t behave like an ass?
He should be interviewed for weeks on end by multiple loyal FBI agents, who should compare their post-interview notes made from memory and find where his answers differed so he can go to prison for lying to the FBI.
There are no loyal FIB agents. Only the harassers and the ones who watch and do nothing.
Why would a normal person be aware of some definition that appears only on urbandictionary? Have you seen urbandictionary? Have you ever come across a word for which it doesn’t offer at least one bizarre interpretation that some idiot contributed? We’re in the same territory as we were when Sheldon Whitehouse attributed to Brett Kavanaugh over some weird definition of “boof” he’d found on urbandictionary.
It’s ridiculous. Comey is a villain, but he’s a normal villain, not one who spends time picking up and using random bits of slang that middle school students post on a web site designed to encourage the stupidest definitions possible.
Oh please give it up Milquetoast. Citing Urban Dictionary is on par with citing Wikifuckitall.
Every time you post, you prove your Democratic Party bona fides.
You’re such an idiot you don’t even realize that you just scored an own goal. You just absolutely destroyed your own position. Thank you for making exactly my point, you moron.
Though Wikipedia is far more reliable, because there are thousands of people who spend time reversing the obvious vandalism. Urbandictionary is what WP would be without them.
Also you’re a fucking slanderous liar for accusing me of being a Democrat.
You’re a simp for democrats, Outhouse, which is arguably worse.
So sue me.
You are an anonymous entity on these pages, although you believe yourself to be everything to everyone. How can I slander someone that the public couldn’t recognize if they were in the room with you alone?
You are so full of yourself it’s pathetic.
No, Milhouse. YOU didn’t know it meant that. The rest of us don’t have the same ignorance. I prosecute drug dealers and gang members. They speak a different language than honest people. Some of it sounds like utter nonsense but if you don’t know what the words mean in certain neighborhoods, you die violently. So stop projecting your ignorance on the rest of us and don’t pretend the head of the FBI doesn’t know how criminals speak. It’s a moronic defense and should be beneath you.
Damn, Milhouse, you are thick. Comey isn’t a “normal person.” I worked for a major state police organization. I helped to write and put together training manuals. Police and FBI agents are literally taught to recognize gang, mobster, biker, and street slang, along with their tattoos, hand signs, graffiti, symbols, clothing, etc.
Do you not know this? You can learn this by watching police procedurals on TV, for god’s sake.
Milhouse,
As I already pointed out I have understood 86 to be a euphemism for murder for decades. I don’t think I am all that ‘hip’ or in touch with slang or criminal cant or what have you linguistically. Clearly more than you are. Maybe it is b/c I listened to gangster rap and my Dad was a LEO then a DA and I grew up in an integrated environment of a smallish town and schools that were 40% ‘black’ then into the Army I’ve just had more exposure to different cultures and subcultures? Doesn’t make me special, it just means I’ve had different experiences and different opportunities to learn from a potentially wider range of folks than you. It doesn’t make your life experience invalid just different.
Just as you find it incredible that ’86’ could possibly be equated to murder I find it incredible that anyone in 2025 with movies, books, music lyrics, internet would NOT have any inkling that 86 wouldn’t be a known euphemism for murder.
I don’t think you are lying or operating in bad faith in stating your own shock to discover that other people understood 86 to mean kill/murder. The problem here is your repeated failure to extend the same presumption of good faith to the rest of us when you claim we are liars or would have to read the Urban dictionary to keep up with linguistic drift/slang. There’s a big world outside of your own geographic area, circle of friends, business network, religious group or other social affiliation. It wouldn’t hurt you to acknowledge that perhaps the statements of others re 86 =killing are offered up in good faith the same way you offer your own.
I didn’t need the urban dictionary to know that sense of the word. You Comey apologists are pathetic.
After watching dozens of democrat meltdowns over anything Trump says (“bloodbath” for instance), force democrats to to go through the same nonsense. Hound Comey. Make him disavow this for the rest of his miserable life. Ruin the scumbag. Make every elected democrat disavow this. Beat them over the head with it until they can’t see straight.
Then pick something else and do it again. And again.
Stop being nice and start playing for keeps. Accuse democrats of anything and everything they even hint at and make them defend themselves constantly. Just like they do.
Ridicule and hound him all you like, but none of that justifies prosecuting him, or using the official powers of law enforcement to harass him. Even if he had called for Trump’s assassination — which he didn’t — it would be protected speech, and knowingly prosecuting it would have a chilling effect on such speech, which is unconstitutional.
God forbid we chill speech calling for an act of violence that would plunge the country into a bloody civil war.
That’s right, if you chill such speech then the USA stops being worth a red cent, and stops being worth defending.
Does that also apply to 2A as well as 1A? If not why? If yes then you have got a heap of work to do there in NY State and NYC to follow through on your logical conclusion.
You speak with authority when you really do not know. Fake authority.
Agent 86 (Get Smart) was named after throwing out of bars, according to the producers.
And you know what? Nobody who watched that show (including me) knew that. Why? Because there was no context to indicate that Smart’s agent number had anything to do with any of the slang meanings for “86.”
Comey is a known sufferer of TDS. He wrecked his career in pursuit of destroying DJT. Comey was in LE, and therefore has cause to understand the language of the country’s criminal underground. Comey is also smart enough to use a term that is ambiguous, knowing that some would understand his meaning and others would not. But if he knew this, why not send an unambiguous message, one that doesn’t connote death and violence? Because he wanted his ambiguous statement to have that connotation, yet he also wanted to be able to deny the same. (I don’t believe for a moment that he “found” the message. Comey destroyed any credibility he may have had as an honest person a long time ago.)
There have been two credible attempts to assassinate DJT.
There’s some context for “86” when Comey uses the term in association with a well-known shorthand (“47”) for DJT.
The producers knew it and that was the reason for the name. According to an interview with them.
But in order to know that, you’d have to read a website that’s even more obscure than urbandictionary…. hence, by Milhouse logic, it can’t be true.
The right is pretty much into cancel culture now. As the right gets more popular, the average IQ falls.
Hogwash on both fronts.
Hardin is, how to put this, special. He licks the windows on the short bus.
To expound, cancel culture under the left created a chilled environment that is now thawing. People are more free to speak.
Popularity aside, IQ is not ideological. And raised IQ can produce no less dumb.
I literally agree with this… but as a GOOD thing.
The right is into cancel culture now… because they’re sick and tired of bring a knife to a gunfight.
And as any movement gains adherents, its average IQ falls. It’s simply a statistical fact. So just sit back and enjoy the growth.
People are welcome to their own level of interpretation as to what Comey did or did not mean with “86”.
However, there are the new rules we are playing by. In a world in which the OK hand sign has been transmogrified into a “white power gesture”, we are now welcome to extrapolate to Comey giving a order to eliminate Trump.
In light of the 2 previous assassination attempts on Trump (an others of which we are probably not aware), the new rules also permit us to request the early morning visit from a SWAT team and a line of investigators streaming into Comey’s home…all ready to be filmed by a designated media source of Trump’s preference.
I didn’t make the new rules….they were thrust upon us by power-mad Democrats propping up the closest thing we have had to a corpse occupying the Oval Office.
The people arguing for Comey to get away with it intend to leave the current rules in place, with the left able to call for and commit violence freely.
Indeed. Sauce for the goose is a necessity once the gander endured their own. The totalitarian leftists are bullies at heart and bullies only respect the applied use of force. No consequence less than hitting them back 2x as hard, 2x as much for 2x as long a duration will work to deter them from ending their use of unsavory tactics.
Arresting someone for protected speech would make the USA deserve to be overthrown. And if the president were to order such an arrest he would deserve to be assassinated.
Already happened. See the other thread on this topic.
Has there never been an instance in your lifetime where an arrest for protected speech was made by any Gov’t in the USA? Did you then follow through on your stated personal convictions to seek the overthrow of that Gov’t which would ‘deserve to be overthrown’? Would lesser figures like an AG or FBI Director also deserve assassination? How about the lower level Agents? The Judges who didn’t immediately order the dismissal of the charges? The Jailers and prison staff who kept them locked up pre trial or post conviction?
Simp harder, Outhouse. You can do it.b
Thanks for the self-own, Milhouse.
You’ve already been presented with concrete examples of PRECISELY this being done — by our enemies — who are never punished for it.
If you want to keep bringing knives to gunfights, that can be YOUR problem.
Now hey, let me do a Milhouse-level nitpick. Our resident humorless autistic asshole with anger management issues doesn’t want us to bring a knife to a gunfight. He wants us completely disarmed, to bend the knee. Democrats can (and do) use every dirty trick in the book, magnify even the slightest thing into hysterical shrieking… but God forbid Republicans use anything close to the same tactic. Hey, at least we can take comfort in being morally pure as we’re led to the guillotines.
are U. out of your mind?
He’s the Ex head of the FBI encouraging crazy’s to KiLL President Trump
Go sit down
First of all he didn’t, but if he had it would be protected speech and the US government would have no right to lift a finger against him.
You say “freedom of speech”.
I say “incitement to kill”.
Here’s the new rules, per their application related to January 6th: The process is the punishment. Let Comey or anybody else using “86” argue their meaning in a court of law. The investigators will determine if there is any evidence for my view.
Per the new rules related to January 6th, let the lawyers argue it out while Comey stews in jail.
I am sorry, but I didn’t make these fun, new rules. However, I agree – if Comey can prove that he didn’t mean incitement and no evidence proves that he did, than he can certain go free…
…after time in jail.
— after a detailed investigation of all his email, snail mail, and phone records.
Amen, Leslie!
Fûck off Milquetoast. You get your pubes in a wad when anyone says something you don’t like. Defamation! Slander.
But you are OK with Comey calling for the murder of the President, But call your pussy ass Democrat and you fall apart.
BTW, it’s not slander to call someone a Democrat. But it does show how much of a twatwaffle you are.
Excellent. And btw, love the phrase ‘twatwaffle’
As someone who spent years prosecuting mobsters and going after Trump by whatever means necessary, legal or not.. Comey feigning ignorance at the possibility of his post inciting a violent reaction is absolutely unbelievable.
“Not a hill to die on….”…. Please, try putting it up on your senator, congressman, etc…. This author should be writing for politico or the hill… That’s a place to die (or is it dei)
“Gotcha” has replaced football as the national sport, thanks entirely to Democrats — and now MAGA demands equal time to play. That’s what this is, like it or lump it. And I’m liking it.
Outhouse is simping on a Saturday.
This comment back and forth certainly went off the rails. 86 goes back to casinos. When you 86’d someone they were banned. During the 80’s it began to be used as a “disappear” reference. Usually meaning dead. During the late 90’s and early 2000’s it became a gang reference to eliminating a rival. (Dead). The 86 term was known by law enforcement and the FBI to mean a death threat or order to take out someone. So yes, James Comey would have had to know what it means in the context of gang, mob violence.
What’s the old legal catch-22 — “known or should have known?”
Comey can claim he didn’t know, but he should have known.
Guilty, guilty, guilty.
Comey’s action could be characterized as humor, admiration for art, ( His own ) or a passive-aggressive statement. Probably a few other things as well.
To call it a death threat is a bridge too far.
Anyone dragging this into a court room will be laughed outta’ there for the fools they are.
Amazing how you can post something like this, when at least two commenters have proven, with URLs, that the Democrats have already done precisely this, and won.
What’s really amazing about the attempts to defend Comey is the complete lack of context. This is hardly the first time actual or popularly-acclaimed Democrat leaders have done this kind of thing.
The communication between Dick Durbin and Republican Congressional baseball team shooter and Bernie Bro James Hodgkinson has never been explained.
Chuck Schumer went in front of the Supreme Court to tell them they would ‘reap the whirlwind’, and a crazy Democrat flew to DC from California to stalk Justice Kavanaugh.
How a high school kid can outwit and outmaneuver a Secret Service detail to come within millimeters of killing a Presidential candidate hasn’t been explained.
There are screen caps of a Gretchen Whitmer video post from 2020 with a similarly cutsey ’86 45′ behind her.
We have a long list of Democrat leaders from Trump’s first term calling for harassment of Trump supporters and Republicans in general.
Comey absolutely knew what he was suggesting because it fits the pattern of Democrat leadership fomenting violent opposition to Republicans. It’s even the plot of the novel he’s now trying to sell (of course, typical of Democrat projection it’s a right-wing influencer who is the villain). Even if you want to claim he did it just to get publicity that just makes him look like the typical Democrat grifting off popular political sentiment.
Agreed that more has been made of Comey’s latest smug anti-Trump BS than warranted, but tell that to those who spent years in federal prison for a stroll through the Capitol and catching some cell phone photos, all at the hands of a weaponized FBI crafted by Comey. If the “new rules” put this long slimey POS through at least a criminal process wringer, so be it.
as stated before
he did nothing illegal
give him the finger and move on