*UPDATE* Chaos Ensues Outside New Jersey ICE Detention Center
Give a me a break.
Now we have faith leaders blocking the Delaney Hall ICE detention center in Newark, NJ.
Remember, this facility holds alleged violent criminals, such as MS-13 gang members and child rapists.
These people claim they won’t move unless they’re arrested.
BREAKING: Faith Ministers are BLOCKING the entrance to the ICE Detention Center, Delaney Hall in New Jersey where Newark Mayor Ras Baraka was arrested last week. pic.twitter.com/T5tzTewO3D
— Oliya Scootercaster 🛴 (@ScooterCasterNY) May 12, 2025
NOW: Faith Ministers are BLOCKING the SECOND entrance to the ICE Detention Center, Delaney Hall in New Jersey https://t.co/Dbl0vkx29l pic.twitter.com/DDnvBUx65s
— Oliya Scootercaster 🛴 (@ScooterCasterNY) May 12, 2025
NOW: "What we are seeing in this world is Hell," – Faith Leaders are blocking the entrance to Delaney Hall in Newark, New Jersey pic.twitter.com/v8lsB5V7p7
— Oliya Scootercaster 🛴 (@ScooterCasterNY) May 12, 2025
NOW: "The word Hebrew can be translated as illegal, as trespasser, as border crosser," – Rabbi speaks while blocking the entrance to ICE Detention Facility in Newark NJ pic.twitter.com/snmqfLUX1n
— Oliya Scootercaster 🛴 (@ScooterCasterNY) May 12, 2025
You will never guess what happens next!
Yes, chaos broke out.
Oh, look. An anti-Israel person is there with a huge sign that says, “From Palestine to Mexico: All Walls Have Got to Go!”
Well, isn’t he just precious.
NOW: "This is Private Property, Please Leave the Area," – Federal Officers are demanding that the protesters disperse from the front gate at Delaney Hall ICE Detention Facility in Newark NJ pic.twitter.com/LSKAy21b7d
— Oliya Scootercaster 🛴 (@ScooterCasterNY) May 12, 2025
Protester waves "LOVE" sign at ICE Detainees bus as they try to enter Delaney Hall Detention Center in Newark, which is still being blocked by faith leaders. pic.twitter.com/KEhgnxf9XT
— Oliya Scootercaster 🛴 (@ScooterCasterNY) May 12, 2025
"Shame!" Anti-ICE protesters block Delaney Hall Detention facility agents attempt to leave pic.twitter.com/UNyuYWErOs
— Oliya Scootercaster 🛴 (@ScooterCasterNY) May 12, 2025
BREAKING: Clashes outside ICE Detention Center Delaney Hall as Protesters block entrance pic.twitter.com/7IWVvC01n3
— Oliya Scootercaster 🛴 (@ScooterCasterNY) May 12, 2025
BREAKING: ARRESTS Outside ICE Delaney Hall Detention Center NJ
Clashes and arrests as Protesters pushed away from ICE gates to let cars through pic.twitter.com/nw2OFrdGBz
— Oliya Scootercaster 🛴 (@ScooterCasterNY) May 12, 2025
Newark Mayor Ras Baraka and NJ Democrat Reps. Rob Menendez Jr., Bonnie Watson Coleman, and LaMonica McIver put the center on the map last Friday when they stormed it.
Authorities even arrested Baraka for failing to remove himself. They eventually released him.
Coleman doubled down on the situation on Sunday, insisting violence did not break out.
DHS snapped back: “Let’s check the tape.”
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Arrest them if they don’t have a permit and/or are blocking access.
The won’t be touched, neither Bondi or Habba have the balls
Be a good time to hose down and wash the gate and while they’re at it the protesters too! Get them nice and soaked with cold water.
faith in communism
they lie or have a misconception of wwjd
Order them to disperse. Then arrest them if they refuse to stop their criminal activity. Hold them on Federal charges in a Federal facility. Sucks for them if that facility turns out to be located in BFE Arkansas.
Religion has become so corroded.
It seems that they, like some of the disciples, want Jesus to overthrow a government they don’t like.
Something he never advocated, interestingly enough.
‘Render unto Caesar’ I think means don’t overthrow the government
Render unto Caesar….
“When Jesus said, “Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s,” He was drawing a sharp distinction between two kingdoms. There is a kingdom of this world, and Caesar holds power over it. But there is another kingdom, not of this world, and Jesus is King of that (John 18:36). Christians are part of both kingdoms.”
no
just the opposite
yes..give to cesear what is JUSTLY his
but that would tell that “cesear”..lefty must be stopped from trying to take what they want UNJUSTLY….your hearts and souls via your freedom
again
the left is willing to pay the price to achieve their goals
we count(ed) on the pd to protect our civility
THAT got subverted when blmplo armed forces took to the streets and not only murdered people ( set towns on fire…murdered police officers etc etc)
BUT had the city councils…mayors etc kneel to communists all behind a politically motivated slogan…..do black lives matter? as opposed to the truth of
black lives do matter
communistsnazis lives do not matter when they use violence to gain their agenda
exactly what that grouped argued to justify their unlawful ( in many cases) capturing of jan 6 pro american protesters AND THEN DEFENDED ONE OF THEIR GESTAPOS MURDER OF ASHLI BABBIT
Will these perps’ defense be jury nullification?
they will never get to a jury,…Bondi is too busy prepping for her next Hannity appearance
Arrest them. The US is a secular country. They enjoy no special privileges.
Do the crime – Do the time.
When the government AND gods favor criminals over normal, law abiding, god fearing citizens, you have to ask yourself how much longer you’re going to shackle yourself
The only gods these folks have is their own will.
Pull the bus up to the protest line and open the doors. Turn the passengers over to God.
It does my heart good to see people of faith willing to be imprisoned because they stood up for their belief that all immigrants, even violent criminals who abuse children and women…. Oh, wait. Let me try that again.
You know, maybe if we saw these people helping the poor, ministering to the sick and downtrodden, that would better represent religious faith in a good way.
Meanwhile s0-called “faith leaders” are refusing to help resettle white South Africans granted refugee status.
Democrats have sent in the second string.
The last group WAS their second string. They still haven’t found their first.
It’s interesting in that from the pic they are all as white as snow!! Must be insufficient grift involved to bring out The Rev Al or maybe he thinks someone of his stature shouldn’t be caught dead in Newark.
They well aware of the well in Hell that awaits those that use Him for all the wrong reasons.
**ahem**
They are well aware of the Hell that waits.
I’m sorry but I fail to see any faith leaders. All I see is a bunch of liberals dressed up in religious garb.
Progressive please. There is a difference between liberals and progressives.
Sorry. My bad.
Nah I forget too sometimes in the heat of the moment,
These folk aren’t progressive, they’re Regressives. Progress is a good thing, but these folk want the opposite.
They can form a devotional group in prison. Their gods will be right there with them – themselves. And call it insurrection.
Sorry, we can’t feed the inmates, our food shipments are being blocked.
“Render unto Caesar what is Caesar’s…etc..etc..etc… In the story of the Good Samaritan there is one word absent…. “forever”.
Let them COEXIST . . .
. . . together in ONE prison cell.
Romans 13:1-7 is pretty plain. Apparently, none of these so-called “faith leaders” have read it.
Arrest them and treat them *exactly* like the J6 political prisoners were treated.
Tell them they can stay in their cold, dark cell until they’re pardoned by the next democrat president.
Then ask them who else spent time in prison for questioning the government: HITLER! That’s who.
(As you can tell, I’m through being Mr. Nice Guy)
I don’t know who the fellow in the talles is, who is speaking “as a rabbi”, but I think I recognize the fellow in chassidic dress next to him. I think it’s Mike Moskowitz, who may be orthodox in his practice but is definitely not in his theology.
The rabbi’s linguistic note about possible connotations of עברי (“Hebrew”) is fair enough. The root is עבר, which means “the other side”. Thus the verb לעבור means “to cross”. It could be a river, a road, a border, or it could mean the line of the law. A criminal is עבריין, from the same root, because he crosses the law. And of course “trespass” in English can mean the same thing, a breach of the law. “Forgive us our trespasses”. So yes, with a bit of latitude עברי could be translated in all the ways he says. Good enough for hermeneutics, at least.
He could also have said, but didn’t, that Judaism says the crime of Sodom and the other four cities was not anything related to sex, but hostility to strangers. It was against the law in Sodom to show any hospitality to strangers, and they were to be harassed and forced to leave town. While the USA can’t afford to just have an open border, it must be careful to avoid Sodom’s crime and its fate.
“While the USA can’t afford to just have an open border, it must be careful to avoid Sodom’s crime and its fate.”
We’re teetering on the brink of ruination and you’re spouting ossified 70’s libertarian liberation horsecrap.
Go ahead and fall on your sword already.
What I’m “spouting” is standard Judaism. Sodom was destroyed for its inhospitality to strangers, not for anything to do with sex. The mob was demanding to rape the angels not because they were all filled with a sudden lust for male companionship, but to punish them for being foreigners and daring to come to their city. It was about aggression and violence, not about sex. And they would have been just as guilty if the angels had been presenting as female rather than male. (Angels, unlike deluded children, actually have no sex at all, and can therefore present as either sex with equal ease, so “present” is in fact the correct verb to use in their case.)
The idea that their sin, for which the city was destroyed, was merely due to the fact that the angels happened to be presenting as male, and it would have been fine had they been presenting as women, is a Christian invention, probably medieval.
Riddle me this Milhouse, why in later writings of the Jewish scriptures does Sodom reference sexual immorality? Sodom is also used to imply sexual immorality in the New Testament.
Your stance is what is used by Progressives in Judaism and Christianity to justify sexual perversion as not being sinful even though sexual perversion is explicitly labeled as sinful without reference to Sodom.
It doesn’t. Not even once. Every single reference to Sodom and its fate, anywhere in scripture, refers only to its inhospitality.
If you say so. I don’t necessarily accept that as true, since your previous sentence shows that you have been reading the scriptures with a preformed view of what you’re going to find there, but supposing it is true it’s irrelevant. Why would a rabbi, or any Jew, care what the New Testament says?
Bullshit. Now you’re just outright lying. “My” stance is the unanimous stance of all Jewish authorities. There is no dispute about the sin of Sodom. You are just trying to obfuscate in order to justify hostility to strangers as not sinful, or not so terrible a sin as to have caused five entire cities to be destroyed.
Examples, please?
In both Mishneh and Gemara, sodom is used to characterize sordid selfishness, including withholding an easily performed favor simply out of laziness or indifference.
Male on male sexual activity is referred to by the term mishcav zachor, which means lying down with a male.
This is not what I was taught, I was taught that Sodom’s immorality resulted in its destruction. Its been a long time but didn’t Lot bargain with God trying to save Sodom but essentially couldn’t find any righteous man and so God proceeded to destroy it.
In any event even if your account is the correct wanting to take action against 20 million invaders all who entered without permission and broke multiple laws of ours with some also committing felonious crimes is not at all the same as inhospitality to strangers, This country is very hospitable to immigrants when they are legal.
Indeed it was. And what was that immorality? It was the refusal of hospitality to strangers. You have a very strange view of morality, if you think it is limited to sexual matters.
Abraham, not Lot. He stopped at ten, so there might have been as many as nine innocent men among the five cities, but we can assume that God would have saved them as He saved Lot and his family, so since there’s no mention of any other survivors we can assume Lot was the only one. But the crime they were guilty of was hostility to strangers.
It can be. It’s obvious that with the world as dangerous as it is, we can’t have open borders. We have no choice but to protect the border, and so long as we’re only deporting people who commit actual crimes, i.e. things that are wrong in themselves, we’re on solid ground. But when we start claiming that everyone who’s here illegally is a criminal who deserves our hostility, well, that’s what the Sodomites did. They made unjust and inhospitable laws, and punished strangers who violated them. I’m not saying we shouldn’t deport anyone, much less that we shouldn’t police the border, but we have to be wary lest God condemn us as He did the Sodomites. The slavering hostility of some commenters here would not have stood out in Sodom of old.
If you look at Rashi & other meforshim you get a very different sense of what that immortality was. The idea that it was sexual rather than greed & selfishness is a Christian, not a Jew concept.
I can’t comment about standard Judaism, but then I was blown away years ago to learn that Judaism believes in reincarnation. Clearly the Pharisees have diverged even more since the time of Christ.
Yes, Judaism believes in reincarnation. It’s not clear whether the Pharisees of 2000 years ago did too, but they didn’t deny it. As far as I know they simply never addressed it.
I believe there are different rabbinical schools of thought on this. And Milhouse is right that a big traditional one is what he claims. I happen to think it’s a wrong one, based on some bits in the story. But it’s mainly wrong from the point of view that the real reason for Sodom’s destruction was wickedness, which is most often applied as turning away from God in a bold and flagrant fashion. It’s often more general than merely one particular sin.
I would also wonder about the Noahic Law (pre-Moses) concerning hospitality. I don’t think I’ve ever seen it proclaimed anywhere.
But don’t go bashing on Milhouse as some freakish perversion of Judaism.
Replying to a couple of Milhouse bits…
But when we start claiming that everyone who’s here illegally is a criminal who deserves our hostility, well, that’s what the Sodomites did.
No. That’s not correct. Invading the town of Sodom would most certainly have been correctly turned away, regardless of ‘hospitality.’ By “invading” I mean just showing up and expecting to move in.
Yes, Judaism believes in reincarnation.
Maybe so, but it’s not supported in Scripture. It would be a deviation from God’s revelation (even just the Old Testament) to believe it applies to humans.
Lots of things that are very standard in Judaism are not mentioned in scripture, or are only hinted at. Are you familiar with the term Oral Torah?
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Yes. Also to the fact that Meshnah and Gemara didn’t exist in documented form until the end of the first millennium after Christ. While I am a believer in oral tradition, it does get a bit suspect when you’ve got 1200+ years between a Greek translation of the Torah and the writing down of “oral tradition.”
But I’m not going to debate the issue. It is your faith and tradition.
I believe Milhouse writes sincerely. To his ending, not unreasonable, concern, I would offer as a paliative that the USA is graced with both a 1st amendment and about 350+ Million citizens alculturated to use it. There is a great deal of “Stranger” opinion floating about our civic ether. And it has had effects. And they generally have degraded many measures of well-being. Now the re-action, as the Right, MAGA & RINO (see, even in the tent, there are strong divisions) and the Left work out a new equilbrium aligned to common sense in and out of gov’t.
I can only assume that anyone downvoting this is hostile to Judaism, i.e. antisemitic.
For a person whose opinions I often respect and appreciate, this is rather silly. Isn’t it just possible that they simply disagree with you?
They can disagree with me all they like, but they’re not downvoting me or my opinions, they’re downvoting the standard view of the entire Jewish religion. That’s hostility, not to me, but to Judaism.
Millhouse,
With respect, you are a little too emotional here. These people are not anti-Semitic, they do not understand Jewish theology as you do. They may disagree with you about your interpretation, which may or may not be a majority belief in mainline Judiasm (I’m not able to make a call on that), but Christians suffer from the same issues explaining their faith. One of the most outlandish examples is the fact that some early Christian communities were persecuted and killed because people believed they were cannibals (because we believe the bread and wine are representations/symbols of Jesus’ broken body and poured out blood to save humanity from our sins. No arguments about this please). Another, more modern problem is that Islam accuses Christians of being polytheists because of their understanding of the Trinity.
Please, we have more than enough anti-Semites around the country and internet without labeling people here. Shalom.
No, Milhouse, some are downvoting your – once again – adamant stance that you are the final arbiter of something (in this case, Jewish law), the same as you can be a pedant about the law. If they disagree with YOUR beliefs about Jewish law, that doesn’t make them anti-semites, and the idea it would reveals your weakness.
This claim seems very similar to Fauci ‘I am the science’ where any disagreement was an attack on ‘the science’.
FWIW I agree with your interpretation (and lets be clear that’s what it is an interpretation/opinion, granted with widespread acceptance but still only an opinion/interpretation) about the cause for the destruction of Sodom.
There is a huge distinction in refusing temporary food, water, shelter to those in unexpected need v an open border policy and permanent funding for mass movement of illegal aliens into a Nation.
I am unaware that there is such a thing as “the standard view of the entire Jewish religion” in general, and specifically in this case. Perhaps you have a particular definition of “the entire Jewish religion”. If so, it would be interesting to know what it is. I’m not being sarcastic.
Don’t you love it when non-Jews insist they know more about the Jewish religion than practicing Jews do?
Don’t hit the break, hit the gas and run the damn assholes over
That which gets rewarded, gets repeated. The 3 commie Reps and their little mob were not put in jail and the same crime happens a few days later.
If Hitler were non-white, those rabbis would be fighting for first place in line for the train to the camps. My grandmother would call it a shonde for the goyim.
Faith leaders, or Leftist leaders in religious employment?
Well, it turns out we were all wrong about the members of congress needing to make an appointment.
Public Law 118–47 (the Further Consolidated Appropriations Act, 2024), § 527 explicitly says that members of congress may not be prevented from entering any facility operated by or for DHS and used to detain aliens, nor may they be required to provide prior notice of their intent to enter such a facility, for the purpose of conducting oversight. So yes, any member of congress can rock up to any DHS detention facility, at any time of day or night, and demand admission so they can see what the **** is going on there.
The 2024 appropriation was continued in force by Public Law 119-4 (The Full-Year Continuing Appropriations and Extensions Act, 2025).
That still doesn’t mean that if they’re illegally denied entry they can use force to enter anyway. Presumably their recourse is to get a court order, or at most to get some members of the Capitol Police to secure their entry.
Let ’em go get a court order.
But that is an interesting find, Milhouse. Thanks.
(It’s also stupid because it’s easily abused.)
How interesting. How is it that the Pub congress critters never availed themselves of this law during the Biden administration?
I know, I know, some questions answer themselves…
Thinking further…
First, Capitol Police wouldn’t have authority or jurisdiction.
Second, I wonder if that law doesn’t also specify it needs to be approved by Congress or something similar.
Even if that’s the.case they don’t have 24/7/365 unfettered access. In event of a riot and takeover of portions of the facility by prisoners are we to believe that DHS must open a secured entry to grant ingress to a member of Congress demanding it? Hell no. Same.with transport arrival/departure. Sure.they can enter but there are still gonna be practical limits on precise timing so as.to maintain security and safety of staff, prisoners within the facility.
In event of a riot and takeover of portions of the facility by prisoners are we to believe that DHS must open a secured entry to grant ingress to a member of Congress demanding it?
But, maybe, we should? “Sure, I’ll let you in. We’re aren’t coming in after you, though.”
There has been no indication that these congress critters went to the facility and asked to do an inspection. By all reporting they showed up with a group of protesters and tried to force their way into the facility through a service gate.
I don’t see what the “chaos” here is. Some pretend religious people are blocking the entrance so arrest them, put them in a van and haul them off. What chaos?