Ramaswamy To Exit DOGE – On The Outs With Trump/Musk, Or Just Planning OH Gov Run?
The possibility of Ramaswamy’s departure has fueled speculation about the inner workings of DOGE, which have been a well-kept secret.
Vivek Ramaswamy, President-elect Donald Trump’s pick to co-lead the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) alongside X (formerly Twitter) owner Elon Musk, is preparing to step down from the task force. According to multiple reports, Ramaswamy plans to announce his campaign for Ohio governor by the end of January.
More from Politico on his potential run:
“Ramaswamy’s potential exit could upend DOGE, which aims to reduce government spending by up to $2 trillion by July 4, 2026 — by which time his Ohio gubernatorial campaign will need to be well underway. Following the election, Ramaswamy informed members of the transition that he planned to run for governor, said a person familiar with the transition.
Ramaswamy’s decision accelerated when Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine passed over Ramaswamy to replace Vice President-elect JD Vance in the Senate on Friday, picking instead his own Lt. Gov. Jon Husted.”
The possibility of Ramaswamy’s departure has fueled speculation about the inner workings of DOGE, which have been a well-kept secret.
CBS has more on what happened:
“People close to Musk have privately undercut Ramaswamy for weeks, frustrated with his lack of participation in the heavy lifting, according to sources familiar with the internal dynamics. There has been friction between the incoming rank and file DOGE staff and Ramaswamy, the sources said, and Ramaswamy has been subtly encouraged to exit.
“Vivek has worn out his welcome,” one person close to Trump said.”
Ramaswamy also faced criticism last month when, the day after Christmas, he ignited a heated debate on the H-1B visa program. Legal Insurrection covered the controversy, and his tweet sparked widespread discussion, generating almost 118 million views.
The reason top tech companies often hire foreign-born & first-generation engineers over “native” Americans isn’t because of an innate American IQ deficit (a lazy & wrong explanation). A key part of it comes down to the c-word: culture. Tough questions demand tough answers & if…
— Vivek Ramaswamy (@VivekGRamaswamy) December 26, 2024
Was this fallout from this tweet the reason for his exit? Or was it tension with the rank-and -file? It’s hard to say.
In a city like Washington, D.C., where people are so busy looking at their neighbor’s lawn, they miss the weeds in their own (And I know, having lived here over a decade), the palace intrigue and infighting happen. Transitions bring changes, alliances shift, and power dynamics evolve.
Will we ever know the full story of what happened at DOGE? Probably not. But one thing seems certain: wherever Ramaswamy goes next, he’s likely to draw significant support. For now, all eyes are on the Buckeye State.
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It sounds like this is for the best, now who else for DODG?
As to culture, it really comes down to nearly slave labor, American talent will expect family time, that is good for our society.
If he is running for Governor, that has to be his primary focus.
For almost two years?! Surely in the first year he will have plenty of time for other things.
Government needs to be paired down. Elon and his team can do that.
I heard this a few days ago and my
First thought is, what about Dode?
Trump? What happened
Is Musk going to do this alone? Yuck
Does he actually live in Ohio?
He lives in Upper Arlington, a suburb of Columbus. His wife is a professor of medicine at Ohio State. He grew up in the Cincinnati area, graduating from St. Xavier, a college prep-school in Cincy.
My opinion?
The H1B nonsense was his doing, and while I think Musk wasn’t against it, it felt to me like Vivek convinced Musk and Trump that it was this fantastic great program that needed to be expanded. Seemed like Musk and Trump were shocked at the backlash, and then were forced to confront the rampant abuse of it shoved in their faces when people started exposing all the ridiculous H1B visas granted for mundane jobs and companies intentionally writing job qualifications to reject Americans so they could then hire H1Bs that were ALSO not qualified for their posting.
Honestly, that was the last time I heard about Vivek with regards to DOGE.
Yeah, I am pretty done with Vivek. To actually argue that America doesn’t produce enough engineers and the absolutely incompetent, credential faking H1B Indians must be hired finished him.
I’m not defending the H1-B system. But, have you been to an engineering school in the last couple decades? Almost 60% of engineering grad students are foreign-born. I think most people just don’t understand what engineering schools look like today, demographically.
I went to one about 15 years ago. Almost entirely people of European ancestry. I was in ANS, though.
American Numismatic Society?
Alabama N-worder School
Sorry. Applied and Natural Sciences. The main engineering building was next door.
Two of my three kids have graduated with engineering degrees (Chemical & Aerospace) in the last 4-years. They both went to (different) blue-chip engineering schools. Students speaking English as a 2nd language made up more than 40% of all the students for my child getting a chemical engineering degree. For my other child who was studying aerospace engineering, that number was a bit less, closer to a third. From what I understand, in schools with strong computer science/engineering programs, the percentage of foreign students is much, much higher. This isn’t just a problem for engineering schools though. It’s pronounced throughout the STEM field. My wife is a doc at a large teaching hospital. About a quarter of her med students, interns & residents speak English as a second language, which is a substantial increase from where it was just a decade ago when only 1 in 10 were foreign-born.
Lastly, the schools with the best reputations – the most expensive schools and generally where the Big Tech recruits most heavily, are packed with foreign students. From Stanford’s own website…
Over 40% of our MBA students and over 75% of our MSx students hold a passport from outside the U.S.
https://www.gsb.stanford.edu/experience/life/international-students
They don’t understand that our own students come in both unprepared and afraid of math.
A lot of people don’t seem to understand how uneducated our grads have become in the last decade +. The only thing we’ve produced with any consistency, is woke, entitled, jerks.
There’s multiple different employment Visa. Trump has previously spoken out about his company’s use of H-2B and J-1 Visa which are used in hospitality industry.
The truth is we do have a problem with US born being poorly prepared by our K-12 system. That makes many of them less prepared to handle STEM courses in Univ. That’s not the whole story. Many employers definitely have misused the H-1B program to bring in cheaper more easily controlled workers to replace US born workers.
IMO, the key is to find a balance by requiring employers to demonstrate actual need to be granted an H-1B application ‘slot’. They gotta be forced to hold job fairs, raise wages, interview US born applicants before they get handed a H-1B visa. Many employers and their surrogate Congressman gonna cry about such things.
Don’t forget that many (most?) of the top-tier schools heavily recruit foreign (full tuition paying) students.
It seems that Ramaswamy is much better at talking than at doing.
Having read Isaacson’s excellent and extremely detailed biography of Musk, I came away thinking that Musk demands competence and 24/7 of anyone working on anything he is involved with. Space X versus NASA is perhaps a good illustration of the result. Maybe that did not fit Vivek at this stage of his life.
Yo can’t work in the White House after Biden unless you have a slight indian accent… (Until they delouse it…) 🙂
This is tremendous news.
Ramaswamy is, and always has been, a narcissistic fraud.
Can only hope Kennedy and Gabbard are next.
As a lifelong connoisseur of nerds, I had my reservations about any pairing between Vivek and Elon. They’re just too different to sync. It would be like pairing MacGyver with Professor Frink.
I need to see another source than CBS first.
Yes. CBS News has more than proven themselves unreliable.
Ramaswamy hit the nail on the head with his X post! Spot on. That he’s moving from DOGE is our loss. Perhaps it is a conflict of two high performers, him and Musk. Co-CEOs don’t always work well. Perhaps it’s the opportunity to run for OH Governor. That would be OH’s gain.