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New York Rushes to Become First State to Ban Natural Gas Hookups

New York Rushes to Become First State to Ban Natural Gas Hookups

Meanwhile, nearly one-third of New Yorkers want to leave the state, according to a recent poll.

The last time we reported on the war against natural gas, the Ninth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in San Francisco had struck down the Berkeley, CA ordinance that bans natural gas lines in new construction.

Now that California has been stalled in its quest to become a green energy utopia, New York is racing to be the first state with an effective ban on natural gas in construction.

New York state leaders led by Democratic Gov. Kathy Hochul reached an agreement late Thursday on the state’s 2024 budget which includes a future ban on natural gas hookups in new building construction.

Under the budget deal, natural gas hookups will be banned in small buildings beginning in 2025 and large buildings beginning in 2028, according to Hochul. The governor said in remarks that the budget insulates households from “exorbitant energy bills” while helping the state build a “more sustainable future.”

It appears the measure is “conceptual” at this point.

Ms. Hochul said on Thursday the deal was a “conceptual agreement” whose broad strokes needed to be “fine tuned” before a final vote was held. The proposed ban would not apply to existing buildings.

Ms. Zielinski said the measure would also allow exemptions for facilities that may need to use fossil fuels for emergency backup power, including hospitals and laboratories. And she said the governor’s office was still “figuring out” how the measure will be applied to new construction in areas where the electrical grid may not be up to the task.

“We are looking at reliability issues still, meaning if there is a proposal to build a new building after 2025 but there is a lack of electric capacity in that region, how will we handle that?” she said. “We don’t want to build new buildings if the local grid does not have the energy to be able to power them.”

New York residents are beginning to ask uncomfortable questions about the consequences of these “climate crisis” solutions . . . specifically about whether the state’s energy grid can handle all the shift in light of other bans on fossil fuel transportation.

“Why would they load down the grid with more electric? New York has had so many problems over the years with blackouts in the summertime when it’s hot,” Francine Leibman of the Upper East Side said.

This will add to the burdens already imposed by green energy efforts, including a 2022 state law signed by Hochul that will ban the sales of gas automobiles by 2035.

“Now they want to have electric cars — which OK, I’m all for that — but they want to make stoves electric too? How will the grid cope?”

Fossil fuels made up about 43% of the 10,014-megawatt hours produced in New York state in January compared to the 6% coming from renewable sources like wind and solar power that are supposed to replace natural gas, according to the U.S. Energy information Administration.

Meanwhile, nearly one-third of New Yorkers want to leave the state, according to a recent poll.

New Yorkers are so worried about crime, sky-high housing costs and struggling schools, 27% percent of state residents said they want to move away in the next five years, a survey revealed Wednesday.

A stunning 30% of respondents — who also cited inept political leadership and soaring taxes as reasons for wanting to flee — said they already longed to live somewhere else, according to a Siena College Research Institute quality of life poll.

Nearly a third — about 31% — plan to leave the Empire State when they retire while even more said they believe it’s not safe for kids.

I expect this number will surge, in direct correlation to energy prices in the Empire State.


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Are they banning natural gas hookups in construction because it’s the cool thing to do, or are these progressives as evil as they are insane?

    UnCivilServant in reply to Ghostrider. | April 29, 2023 at 3:19 pm

    Why not both?

    You forgot sociopathic and corrupt. It’s surreal, but it’s real.

    Mt. Fuji in reply to Ghostrider. | April 30, 2023 at 2:31 pm

    I think there is a much more sinister motive behind the banning of natgas in new construction. What does it accomplish? First it forces the home/building owner onto all electric appliances, including HVAC and water heating. Next will be “smart” meters capable of disconnecting power at the meter can that are connected to the internet. Grid under stress? You have no power. Posted a mean tweet? You have no power for xxx hours/days. You voted wrongly? No power.
    This is in new construction. Wait until they pass laws banning natgas in existing homes/buildings, and force all electric on them. I see it for house heating oil too.
    It’s much easier to turn off electricity that it is natgas/oil.
    Then you have the bigger picture: these climate death cultists want to actually lower the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere. The lower limit for plant life is 150-225ppm, we are at 400ish ppm right now and some agree that is too low for plant life in the biosphere. So what does this mean? These climate cultists want to basically kill plant life thus killing the human population. They are a death cult and they serve evil.

The Gentle Grizzly | April 29, 2023 at 3:42 pm

Why? Aside from this woman being a control freak.

    Because she is also evil.

    BierceAmbrose in reply to The Gentle Grizzly. | April 30, 2023 at 2:21 pm

    She’s just the muscle.

    It abuses and impedes The Wrong People, on behalf of the righteous cohort that patronizes her, without their getting their hands dirty.

    They’re selling smug on the cheap, as they have obviously since The Lightbringer, since The Clinton Dynasty if you look, and I can make a case since “… what you can do for your country.” -guy.

The notion of NY Democrat voters freezing in darkness when the power goes out in the middle of winter gives me a tingle up my leg. Is that wrong? *smirks*

    UnCivilServant in reply to MarkJ. | April 29, 2023 at 4:08 pm

    My main issue with that image is the collateral damage – of which I’d end up being a part. Their nonsense hurts those of us against it as well.

    Eric R. in reply to MarkJ. | April 29, 2023 at 4:10 pm

    Don’t be ridiculous. They will cut power first to what they see as those evil white supremacist Republicans upstate, who they really think deserve to freeze to death for being so evil.

      vinnymeyer in reply to Eric R.. | April 29, 2023 at 5:45 pm

      Generator and gasoline to run it? Check.
      Seasoned firewood to heat with? Check.
      Ammunition for appropriate defensive weapons? Check.

      Somehow I have a feeling my neighbors and I upstate will survive. Question is, when it all blows up, will they?

        BierceAmbrose in reply to vinnymeyer. | April 30, 2023 at 2:26 pm

        Oh, I get the most interesting reactions when I ask folks talking about the inevitable schism: “Cool. Where you gonna get water?”

        The watershed that sustains NYC is well away. They “own” that land and access only by declarations honored by the people there. When you ditch the social contract with them, who’s gonna enforce that for ya?

        Meanwhile, those of us with stuff, who can do stuff, or both, can trade with each other without them. Even more entertaining when they devolve to “But, but, but, contract enforcement, collections, and money.” “You realize that prisons develop completely functional trade networks, including standard currencies? Universally, across time, across countries, acrouss what kind of criminals? Despire active disruption by the overseers?”

        Silly rabbits.

A great percentage of loyal Democratic voters have their utility bills paid by the State Welfare system, so ultimately this is not a consideration for them.

    gonzotx in reply to Hodge. | April 29, 2023 at 5:49 pm

    The State is us, the taxpayers

    BierceAmbrose in reply to Hodge. | April 30, 2023 at 2:28 pm

    When they run out of stuff to take, they rum out of stuff to hand out.

    Across much of NYS, lack of electric or gas coming in becomes very apparent from time to time. I’ll make a prediction and say that Global Warming ain’t gonna be fast enough, or big enough, to keep the transfer-dependent in NYS from noticing when their power goes away.

Remember when the purpose of government was to protect citizens so they could live the way they chose to live… and not to tell citizens how they had to live?

NY’s official Religion will be the Church of the Global Warming. Pray to Gaia heathens

    CommoChief in reply to Skip. | April 29, 2023 at 5:48 pm

    When the rest of the policies come into effect mandated by NY’s Climate Change and Community Protection Act of 2019 there will be all sorts of prayers being offered up. Net zero sometime in the 2030s is the goal. They don’t really have a concrete plan of action to supply the amount of electricity needed much less provide it reliably. Lots of wish casting about adopting tech that doesn’t exist at present.

Move over, Ideal Gas Law.

Conservative Beaner | April 29, 2023 at 5:42 pm

Will Hochul give up her access to natural gas heat and cooking, I think not.

Yeah, like all of the millions of Germans and Western Europeans who were supposed to freeze to death this past winter, because of Nord Stream. Never happened.

    CommoChief in reply to JR. | April 29, 2023 at 8:24 pm

    True though the European Nations were, are and will continue getting Russian oil and gas though. They got it from new middle men markets created in response. European Nations ate purchasing from China and India who buy from Russia.

    So the sanctions are evaded and everyone looks the other way n/c there isn’t a realistic alternative to supplying Europe with oil and gas if Russian oil and gas is taken off the board. Of course there is a substantial mark up paid for facilitating this endeavor and in the end Russia still makes plenty of money (Ural crude is super cheap to produce comparatively so they can afford to discount it) and Europe still burns Russian oil and gas but pays more for the privilege.

The Gentle Grizzly | April 29, 2023 at 7:45 pm

I know she’s in California but, what kind of stove does Nancy Pelosi have?

What does Mrs. Schumer cook on? Or, more likely, her help?

nearly one-third of New Yorkers want to leave the state

Just so long as they stay out of Florida.

They will eventually tell us not to worry about the loss of natural gas, as insects and bugs can be eaten without prior cooking.

“Why would they load down the grid with more electric? New York has had so many problems over the years with blackouts in the summertime when it’s hot,” Francine Leibman of the Upper East Side said.

I bet Francine voted for that witch so she is getting what she wanted.

Huh, usually the lefties proceed much more slowly between “Nobody wants to ban _________” and “We’re banning _________.” They chip away at it, spend years with propaganda. Now they’re acting like poker players who go all in on every hand.

This has to make Con Ed just throw up there hands. Just a short 4 years ago Con Ed had no more capacity to supply new construction, but the state said NO WAY.
archive link to NT times story.

A Democrat New York Governor in 2040: “Since all buildings now have electric stoves, we were very shocked to learn that Con Ed had to install 15 new local gas turbine power plants in the state. Those turbines are 35 percent efficient, which means we are now burning three times as much natural gas to power the stoves than had the gas stoves of twenty years ago remained in place. As a result, we are now rationing power to all residences for two days per week. This is, as you know, a climate emergency and your understanding is appreciated but your cooperation is mandatory.”

Let’s start with her house, the private chef may have something to say to this cretin.

    ChrisPeters in reply to Camperfixer. | May 1, 2023 at 10:45 am

    It’s not just the cooking that will be affected. To eliminate natural gas hookups altogether means that home heating with natural gas will be ruled out as well.

    These people are tyrants, and they deserve prison, or worse.

This should be solvable with a law suit!