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Warnock Squeaks by to Win Georgia Senate Race, Gives Dems Outright Majority

Warnock Squeaks by to Win Georgia Senate Race, Gives Dems Outright Majority

The Democrats have an outright but slim, majority, 51-49.

Incumbent Democrat Georgia Sen. Raphael Warnock beat his Republican challenger Herschel Walker on Tuesday to keep his seat and give Democrats a 51-49 majority in the chamber.

As of 6:31 AM, with over 95% votes in, the tally is at 51.4% to 48.6%. Warnock beat Walker by only 85,000 votes.

From Savannah Morning News:

Warnock’s campaign party had a celebratory mood all evening. Guests, including Hollywood director Spike Lee and Atlanta Mayor Andre Dickens, gave speeches as the results rolled in. But the announcement that Warnock had won brought the loudest and longest cheer yet.

Warnock himself took the stage just before 11:15 p.m. to deliver his victory speech.

“I want to say thank you from, thank you from the bottom of my heart, and to God be the glory -” he began, before pausing for a roar of approval from the crow. “- for the great things that God has done. And after a hard-fought campaign, or should I say campaigns, it is my honor to utter the four most powerful words ever spoken in a democracy: the people have spoken.”

Warnock recounted his family history, recalling how his mother grew up picking cotton and his father supported the family hauling cars, and his own history growing up in Savannah.

“I am Georgia,” he said. “I am an example and an iteration of its history, of its pain and its promise, of the brutality and the possibility. But because this is America and because we always have a path to make our country greater against unspeakable odds, thank you Georgia.”

Democrats outspent Republicans two-to-one during this four-week runoff:

The margin was $57.2 million for Democrats to $27.3 million for Republicans, according to data from Nov. 9-Dec. 5 provided by AdImpact, a nationally known ad tracking firm.

The biggest spender was the Warnock campaign, at $27.3 million, compared to just $11.5 million by Walker’s team. Campaigns get more bang for their bucks than outside groups such as super PACs when it comes to TV commercial rates.

The Republicans didn’t flip any Democrat seats and lost a Republican-held seat in the Senate 2022 midterms.

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No surprise. But the final numbers for 2022 House and Senate reveal a nation divided right down to its foundation. For conservatives the war needs to be fought at the local level. That is where change can occur. Realignments are already showing and Rs can be right in the thick of it. Take school boards, city and county commissioners races, zoning boards, District Attny races, sheriff races.

    fscarn in reply to Whitewall. | December 7, 2022 at 8:17 am

    Which Way, America?

    (A) The way of the Founders/Framers*
    or
    (B) The way of the EU/USSR/PRC/UN/Islam model

    Under (A), rights are pre-existing and inalienable, inherent in each person by simply existing. Government is organized, with the consent of the governed, and most importantly with defined limitations, solely to protect those rights.

    Under (B), rights are “granted” by government which exists unto itself regardless of the consent of the governed, acting as the final arbiter. Here, what government “gives” can as easily be taken away. And with (B), there are no limiting principles placed on governmental power.

    Well, which do we (or a voting majority) really, really want, (A) or (B)?

    The idea of centralism has always been a false premise. Moving toward a “compromising center” always means abandoning your founding principles. And you will note that all “compromise” is a one-way ratchet, moving in one direction only, towards that of more government.

    Do we want freedom FROM government (which is the question with which the Framers wrestled) via limited, constitutional government whereby government itself is bound by law, or do we want total government. Madison (Fed. 51) put it this way, “If men were angels, no government would be necessary. If angels were to govern men, neither external nor internal controls on government would be necessary. In framing a government which is to be administered by men over men, the great difficulty lies in this: you must first enable the government to control the governed; and in the next place oblige it to control itself. A dependence on the people is, no doubt, the primary control on the government; but experience has taught mankind the necessity of auxiliary precautions.”

    *To varying degrees each one of the 10 planks of the Communist Manifesto has found its way into our laws; Bernie/Biden/Democrats would take us full-bore. We should aim to see where we want to go on how we wish to do government: as citizens or as subjects.

    https://www.gaconstitutionparty.org/overview_of_america_cd2019

      Whitewall in reply to fscarn. | December 7, 2022 at 8:44 am

      I agree with you and your very intelligent presentation. Some form of B or worse has always been the norm for the human race. Given the opportunity to let someone else far off decide for you and take care of you is a strong sell. Self government requires self control and how many people are competent at that. Self government also requires hard work, thinking and reasoning too. America today as well as the rest of the Western world are not too big on that.

      All institutions, if they could be charted on a graph, will move left. That is normal unless by charter forbidden to do so. Democracies eventually commit suicide and no Republic survives.

        “unless by charter forbidden to do so”

        Our charter/Constitution does just that. And look where we are – we have a leviathan monster in Washington.

        Because the Constitution is not self-executing, we rely on those who take the Article VI oath to follow the spirit of the Constitution’s theses which is that of LIMITATION (Federalist 45; 10th Am.). Democrats hate that spirit and at every turn vote to increase the size and cost of government, Meaning their oaths are worthless.

    George S in reply to Whitewall. | December 7, 2022 at 8:56 am

    Yet, strangely, only in Florida was there no division — Republicans wiped the floor with Democrats.

    Why was Florida different than other states? Florida counted the votes of actual voters. AZ, PA and GA count ballots. Big difference.

    We are not divided (oh, I don’t know, 40% inflation over a year and skyrocketing crime is not THAT bad). We are being stripped of our consent for being governed.

      Whitewall in reply to George S. | December 7, 2022 at 9:14 am

      Well, the job the governor does speaks for itself. If Fla was that solid then I’m guessing the local offices in cities and counties had Rs who took care of business?

      gonzotx in reply to George S. | December 7, 2022 at 10:05 am

      Not just Florida, but I agree, lots of manufacturing of votes, yet even here it’s barley mentioned.
      I’m
      Sure it’s Trumps fault.
      Everyone wants to
      Vote for “religious “ men who believe in abortion and and has very nasty business dealings

      Just an ace of a character. I’m
      Sure he garnered all those votes on the up and up

        alaskabob in reply to gonzotx. | December 7, 2022 at 11:45 am

        So when DeSantis runs and loses… will it be Trump’s fault?
        So when GOPe and Dems pass “Dreamer” amnesty setting the stage for clean and clear transition to Dem supermajority forever… will it be Trump’s fault No cheating needed anymore.
        Much of this squabble has been nudged by the press, nay-sayers, government and the Left… they are achieving what they want…. division. The only hope is backing a winner and sticking with that..who ever it is…. but remember… there are those whose political party begins and ends in themselves… and it isn’t Trump. Putting your faith in people whose affiliation is staying in D.C. will be wasted.

        Much of what we see is the progress of the welfare state concentrated in cities. Black subculture and a growing part of whites is a matriarcal society. Government has become the surrogate male or rich non-judgmental family relative. As the economy contracts this will become more so. Two years of Covid handouts further solidified that. Most are living from NIke Air Jordans to Nike Air Jordans. Civics is not taught. The national anthem of the Left is “Santa Claus is Coming to Town”. The Left has been smart to push race and abortion forever… especially to these receptive minorities. When there was segregation, the blacks had to take care of themselves…. as Johnson rightly said, the Civil Rights act would have “them” voting Dem for centuries. Can it be turned around? The only real time is when there is government exhaustion…when government has nothing left and rules by force…. that is coming.

          CommoChief in reply to alaskabob. | December 7, 2022 at 1:44 pm

          ‘When DeSantis runs and looses will it be Trump’s fault’?

          If DJT undermines the candidacy of the r nominee then yes. If DJT refuses to fully and publicly support of the r nominee then yes. If DJT fails to convince hIs most rabid supporters to show up and vote for the r nominee then yes.

          If DJT instead enthusiastically supports, funds and campaigns for the r nominee then he will have done all that’s reasonably expected so in that case no it wouldn’t be the fault of DJT.

          alaskabob in reply to alaskabob. | December 7, 2022 at 2:15 pm

          Like the GOPe undermined MAGA and stalled much of the Trump agenda? I certainly hope whoever is the candidate gets full support…period.

          nordic prince in reply to alaskabob. | December 7, 2022 at 2:25 pm

          CommoChief… your answers presuppose that Trump has sway over the majority of R voters. If he is not that consequential, which is what people are essentially claiming when they say that MAGA is done and has a fork stuck in it, then all his blatherings would not have enough momentum to influence the rest of R voters as you posit.

          So, is his influence significant, or not?

          CommoChief in reply to alaskabob. | December 7, 2022 at 3:52 pm

          Trump is a difference maker for segment of the electorate. The comment section here shows us that. We have numerous folks who have already stated they will not vote for any r except DJT and if isn’t the nominee they will stay home.

          The question is how many voters share that view? It isn’t 100% nor IMO more than 10% of the potential r and independent voters. That is still a big number. Another question is how many of these folks when it’s nut cutting time will actually help Biden or another d/prog get into office out of spite? Less than the initial universe of 10% IMO.

          A third question in this scenario is how many voters who wouldn’t pull the lever for DJT will be willing to pull the lever for another r candidate? The final question is does DJT in 2024 bring more votes than he costs on net? I really hope all voters can set aside spite, ego, ill will, bad feeling or whatever other selfish and short sighted rational they may use to not support the r nominee whomever it is.

          Staying home because we got our feelings hurt when our preferred candidate for the nomination didn’t win the primary is flipping stupid. It gifts the d/prog the election on a silver platter and none us should want that.

      jhkrischel in reply to George S. | December 7, 2022 at 10:31 am

      Kemp and Raffensburger allowed the cheating, because they used the cheating in the past for themselves, and didn’t want to get caught for what they did too.

      Plus, they killed Kemp’s daughter’s boyfriend as a warning to him, so there’s that too.

      So long as insecure, fraudulent mail-in voting is allowed, the cheating will continue.

        CommoChief in reply to jhkrischel. | December 7, 2022 at 1:48 pm

        The difference in ’22 was the result of 200K voters who cast a ballot for Kemp not also casting a ballot for Walker in Nov.

        Whatever the reasoning of those 200K voters the fact is they didn’t pull the lever for Walker on the same ballot they pulled the lever for Kemp. We should try and figure out the reasons why that happened to avoid similar outcomes in the future.

He
Is
Not
Georgia.

Great; another vile, Jew-hating reprobate welcomed by the vile Dumb-o-crats. Dotard-marionette, Biden, can lazily condemn German National Socialism from 100 years ago, but, he pointedly doesn’t possess the basic moral integrity and courage to condemn the unabashed and brazen Jew-haters within and without the contemporary Dumb-o-crat Party — Ilhan Omar, Rashida Tlaib, Keith Ellison, Warnock, Occasional-Cortex, Al Sharpton, et al.

    The Gentle Grizzly in reply to guyjones. | December 7, 2022 at 10:36 am

    Jew haters that can still count on a voting bloc: Jews.

      There are voting blocs? Don’t mention that to Fuzzy Slippers.

      That may be factually true, but, I don’t like to generalize in this manner, for a couple of reasons. First off, there are plenty of American Jews who vote GOP, many of them residing in Florida. Secondly, whether intended or not, I think it’s improper to place blame (or, what seems like blame) on American Jews for voting Dumb-o-crat, because, statistically speaking, they represent an insignificant portion of the electorate. I think if one is going to go down this road, focus is properly placed on American Christians who are voting Dumb-o-crat, because, it’s their votes that account for the bulk of the Dumb-o-crats’ electoral success.

        henrybowman in reply to guyjones. | December 7, 2022 at 1:07 pm

        “statistically speaking, they represent an insignificant portion of the electorate.”
        Voting, maybe. Donating, not at all.

So many LI folks correctly predicted the results ahead of time. How is that even possible? We may be cynical, but we’re very accurate.

    Otto Kringelein in reply to r2468. | December 7, 2022 at 8:28 am

    So I’m just waiting for the revelation there was a late night ballot dump that pushed Warnock over the top. Or that more people voted in this special election than were actually registered to vote. Or that there are still boxes of mail in ballots sitting on the USPS loading docks. Or that a large number of mail in ballots are mysteriously lacking the folds that would be necessary to put it in an envelope. Or . . .

    No, I’m not cynical. Not in the least. 😛

      Please, this is their fourth GA election in recent times (2×2020 and 2×2022). They made it transparent. You won’t see Ruby pulling out suitcases from under the table. No more water leaks. There is no evidence of malfeasance.

      They really don’t need to cheat. The Atlanta Metro area is a huge treasure trove of dem voters. How can the other more conservative counties overcome that?

        r2468 in reply to budmania. | December 7, 2022 at 1:31 pm

        In the past the turnout was low. Now Ds harvest the ballots and it’s Obama’s and Stacy’s dream where every D is voting and they don’t have to leave home. Someone will stop by and pickup their ballot. This operation continues until enough ballots are collected. Then they stop because they want the appearance of a close election.

      I’m sure every mail in ballot will be carefully scrutinized for any indicia of fraud. And voters must be excused for supporting a candidate who supports abortion on demand )up to birth, I mean no voters, especially womens vote, would support polices like that.

I use the Las Vegas model for political predictions. By the end of the day the house will take your money but you will win enough to keep coming back. Thank you folks I’ll be here all week.

2smartforlibs | December 7, 2022 at 7:59 am

Was there ever any doubt the Ga uni-party was going to maintain the stairs quo? RINOs run the RNC .

    Dathurtz in reply to 2smartforlibs. | December 7, 2022 at 8:16 am

    Only amongst the usual window-licker crowd. cAnDidAtE quAliTY mATtErs!!

    We now have a dementia-ridden pedophile for president, constitution trampling AZ governor, a vile, openly racist GA senate member, and a literally brain damaged PA senator, and many other apparently disabled members of our governing bodies. If candidate quality mattered, then none of them would be there. If we can’t stop the absolute insanity of mail-in voting and “vote adjudication”, then there will never be another honest election in our country.

    There will never be any government other than a uniparty government. We will be given just enough crumbs so that no armed revolt happens. Every election that really really matters will be lost by a hairs breadth in the dark of night. The temperature is turned up and the other frogs keep telling us the water isn’t hot.

      Erick Erickson, who lives in Georgia, summed the race perfectly: “every single candidate in Georgia that Donald Trump endorsed lost the primary, except two. One of the two lost the general, and the other won but underperformed every other statewide Republican who won.” The facts are there for those who have eyes to see.

        gonzotx in reply to RNJD. | December 7, 2022 at 10:10 am

        I knew someone would come up with its Trumps fault.
        You deserve the government you have, but many of us don’t.,

          Danny in reply to gonzotx. | December 7, 2022 at 10:20 am

          It is Trump’s fault, he made the decision on making himself a major issue of 2022 knowing he is unpopular, and made the decision on creating a slate of stop the steal candidates and played straight into the Democrats,

          Furthermore it would be insane not to think a narrative of your vote doesn’t count doesn’t keep Republicans from voting.

          Gonzo, some of us aren’t blind to actual facts and really want to win an election. Trump supporters’ insistence on staying on the Trump train is costing the rest of us a decent President and congressional majorities. I’m beginning to suspect that you may be a closet Democrat because you refuse to accept the reality that Trump is costing us victories.

          r2468 in reply to gonzotx. | December 7, 2022 at 2:51 pm

          Just admit it. GOPe and Dems hate Trump. Now why would you want to separate Trump voters from Trump. Is it so you can run another Jeb or Mitt and tell Trump voters to come on board. Well a lot of a Trump voters don’t trust Ronna, the RNC, Mitch or McCarty. You are inviting us to your party and it’s a dude. I want more boat parades and Trump rallies. Give me mean tweets and nicknames anyway. All you wine moms can have your beta men candidates. I left Ron off the list. I’m undecided so don’t get wise with me about Ron.

      Danny in reply to Dathurtz. | December 7, 2022 at 10:24 am

      Here is what you need in order to survive bad candidate quality

      1. Big Tech

      2. Corporate Media

      3. Unified support of all corporations

      4. Hollywood and the rest of the entertainment industry

      5. Active support from Academia

      6. Active support for your narrative from the government

      Which of those things do we have?

        BierceAmbrose in reply to Danny. | December 7, 2022 at 12:59 pm

        That’s on point. To win, the not-the D’s have to get everything right.

        You also need an actual get out the vote operation, election monitoring, and candidates who execute, execute, execute.

        Dathurtz in reply to Danny. | December 7, 2022 at 2:55 pm

        You’re almost there. You just have to realize that, because of those things (and especially deeply suspicious election practices) very high quality candidates still cannot win. I think that realization is the difference between my position and yours. I am saying “Oh, shoot, we frogs cannot dissipate our heat fast enough in this water and we’re getting boiled alive!” and you keep saying “Well, no, the water isn’t really boiling. We just need to work a little harder to dissipate our heat.”

        One of us is wrong and I really hope it is me. That’s why I vote. That’s why I talk to my community about candidates I support. That’s why I encourage everybody to vote. Even though I really, truly, don’t think it matters. I might be wrong.

Considering the undeclared contributions by the media, both local and national, and the usual Georgia fraud, it was predictable.

The fact they kept the margin nice and tight, just like in AZ, reveals how well oiled their fraud machine is.

I think I am with Dhillon. for RNC chair.

    The fact that Ronna McDaniel (née Romney*) is even being considered to continue on in her role shows just how un-serious, how unAmerican, the GOP is. Same too with McCarthy and McConnell.

    * Yes, she’s a Romney by birth and in her thinking. She’s Mittens’ niece. This is yet another example of how infected the e-GOP/RINOs are.

    That comment by fscarn above is on the money.

      CommoChief in reply to pfg. | December 7, 2022 at 9:08 am

      Yeah, failure in getting candidates across the finish line isn’t a strong recommendation for retention.

    Danny in reply to Dimsdale. | December 7, 2022 at 10:25 am

    Are you for retaining Trump as leader? If so why change the lower rungs?

Otto Kringelein | December 7, 2022 at 8:20 am

No surprise here. The Republicans have well and truly lost the Senate and there are enough RINOs in the House that will vote with the democrats to make the slim republican majority moot.

Not expecting much better in the upcoming 2024 presidential election.

    Whitewall in reply to Otto Kringelein. | December 7, 2022 at 8:29 am

    That’s why we stop our focus on Washington all the time and concentrate on local politics. “A handful of Senators can’t pass legislation and marches alone won’t bring integration” if you remember the lyrics to that song. Act locally, think nationally. Lefty slogans of the past can work for us today.

    CommoChief in reply to Otto Kringelein. | December 7, 2022 at 9:20 am

    We must adapt to reality of how elections are conducted. Three broad types:
    1. Traditional election day only States. Yes some still do it this way. The r continue to do well in these States. Some is due to political make up of the electorate and some due to the comfort level of using the old playbook of same day turnout.
    2. In person early voting with limited absentee ballots subject to meaningful ballot integrity rules. The r do ok in these States. They still rely too heavily on election day turnout.
    3. Mailed ballot States are the Achilles heel for r campaigns. The d/prog do a much.better job of getting those ballots returned than do the r.

    In sum, we have to start getting better organized to contact voters and get them to return ballots. Where the rules allow 3rd party ballot collection we must use that option. Putting all our eggs in the election day turnout basket makes us vulnerable to shenanigans. See the AZ midterms in Maripoca.

      gonzotx in reply to CommoChief. | December 7, 2022 at 10:12 am

      “We must adapt to reality of how elections are conducted. Three broad types”

      In other words, cheat just a bit better than them

        Danny in reply to gonzotx. | December 7, 2022 at 10:26 am

        That is not what he said and you know it.

        There isn’t evidence of cheating on a scale to change any election in 2022 or 2020.

        Joe Biden loved your narrative that your vote doesn’t count and is counting on a repeat of it for 2024.

        Having a conspiracy theory as our narrative pissed off something called the American voter we need to knock it the hell off.

        This was ideal circumstances for a red wave; we sacrificed it for Trump.

          tbonesays in reply to Danny. | December 7, 2022 at 1:24 pm

          @Danny the best cheating is legal, or allegedly legal. The ballots get scattered around the state automatically. The party harvester finds them and helps the voter fill it out, and takes it do a drop box sight unseen.

          The voter was 99% likely to never go to the polls but the machinery did 99% of the voting for him.

        BierceAmbrose in reply to gonzotx. | December 7, 2022 at 1:02 pm

        Use the system in place as it is.

        If absentee ballots are a thing; get the ones that go your way in and counted.

        It ain’t cheating if it’s per the rules in play.

        CommoChief in reply to gonzotx. | December 7, 2022 at 4:10 pm

        gonzo,

        Here in Alabama we have in person election day voting. No early voting, no mailed ballots, we don’t have ‘no excuse absentee ballots’, we have Voter ID requirements and ballot security, no other person can turn in a ballot for the voter.

        Unfortunately, IMO, other States have moved away from the traditional model of elections that Alabama has maintained. You seem to agree based on your past comments.

        Accepting the reality of different elections models in each State and adapting our campaign strategies to those realities is common sense. AZ is a prime example. The r campaigns relied upon traditional election day turn out at the polls. The Maripoca failure with 30% of the polling locations having issues and creating huge delays and mass confusion on election day absolutely impacted the race.

        By relying on a single day’s turnout we expose our voters to potential problems with the voting machines or the paper or the ink or the printing oat the polls on that one day. That makes it easy to create problems for those traditional ‘vote on election day in person’ voters.

        We shouldn’t walk into the ambush we know the d/prog (or rino) have the ability to stage. Putting all our eggs in one basket is a bad idea, just like Grandma told us. Do you disagree? Why? What do recommend we do instead?

      Perfectly stated. This was the situation before the 2020 election and the Republicans did nothing then and in the 2 years since. I do not know whether it is Trump’s cult of personality or gross political incompetence, or both, but every last one of the party’s leaders should be replaced.

      Warnock had more than a 200k mail-in vote lead going into election day, but won by only 100K. Fetterman’s mail-in ballot lead was far larger in PA. IMO only an incompetent party operation is OK with spotting the opposition such leads through two major election cycles.

      I believe you left off some of the technical problems we face like cleaning up the voting rolls, removing ERIC which is the Dem voter database, ending the acceptance of late ballots and counting for weeks after Election Day. Might as well fortify the armed forces ballots while we’re at it.

        CommoChief in reply to r2468. | December 7, 2022 at 4:20 pm

        Cleaning voter rolls can be done in every State. Heck , the 9th Circuit just granted standing to a citizens group in CA for that. The mention of the d/prog allied org to whom States are outsourcing voter registration list maintenance is important. There’s a couple lawsuits on that issue. The Public Interest Legal Foundation has a couple pending cases challenging that.

        Each State has to be tackled individually with the impetus on the citizens of those States to see the work done. If we can’t do it legislatively in the Statehouse then we have to do it via the CT. If we don’t or won’t then we lose in that State. My State of Alabama has very secure elections with no opportunity for widespread shenanigans. It’s up to the folks in other States to do likewise.

      Mauiobserver in reply to CommoChief. | December 7, 2022 at 9:13 pm

      Yes but the problem is the GOPe will not vote for populists candidates.

      Walker was not strong though neither was Warnock. However in Arizona Kari Lake was a great candidate but the establishment Republicans wouldn’t support her..

      I think that honest populist candidates can pick off a few victories ere and there,, but they will have to sell out to the globalists if they want party support.

      Unfortunately reality is what will get us a populist GOP President and senate. If we have the expected recession and energy shortage that will cause rational people to vote for THEIR interests regardless of prevailing propoganda.

      The riots and seemingly endless Vietnam conflict got Nixon elected. Carters massive inflation and Iran debacle got Reagan elected. Trump was an outlier as he ran a grass roots campaign relying on very little money and beat a terrible candidate. I think if the establishment thought he had a chance in hell to win they would have destroyed him during the campaign rather than doing it after he was in office.

        CommoChief in reply to Mauiobserver. | December 8, 2022 at 10:18 am

        I disagree. The r base is willing as are a majority of independent voters to pull the lever for r candidates with common sense platforms.

        Less regulation, keep the weirdo crap away from kids, deliver on the core functions of govt; public safety, roads, keeping the lights on and cheaper fuel, no foreign interventions, secure the border and reshore domestic manufacturing of at least critical items like energy, pharmaceuticals, tech away from China. Voters overwhelmingly agree on all those points.

        Its when candidates stray from those points of broad agreement and consensus that we have issues. IMO, if run on the common sense issues where there is a broad consensus of support across party lines we win.

    Subotai Bahadur in reply to Otto Kringelein. | December 7, 2022 at 6:42 pm

    Do you expect a real election in 2024?

    Subotai Bahadur

I don’t know Georgia politics, but, does anyone have thoughts on how Kemp can be re-elected as a GOP governor, yet, the vile Warnock wins election as a Dumb-o-crat senator? I understand that split ballots are commonplace, it’s just that Warnock seems like such a mediocre and morally despicable candidate. Such a disappointing outcome, when Walker presented a great alternative for voters.

    rebelgirl in reply to guyjones. | December 7, 2022 at 8:45 am

    My husband used to work for the late Speaker of the House, David Ralston. Georgia mainstream Republicans are a much better species than the national version (i.e., Mitch, et al). They are generally quite conservative in all the ways that matter, but very very focused on small business and regulations that make them so appealing to the independent types in Georgia. Brian Kemp had been SOS prior to running for governor. He did an excellent job of modernizing that office and bringing it into the 21st century. So if you have a business in Georgia, you knew how much he improved that infrastructure.
    Also, the Georgia Republicans tend to be very focused on common sense issues that cross over party lines, such as mental health, teacher salaries and the like.
    If about 100 more people in each of the 80 smallest counties had voted for Herschel, he would have beat Warnock. In our little county, there was only 55% turnout and we still waited in line at early voting for 45 minutes.

      guyjones in reply to rebelgirl. | December 7, 2022 at 8:48 am

      Thank you; I appreciate your insights. What a galling situation. It’s maddening.

      gonzotx in reply to rebelgirl. | December 7, 2022 at 10:15 am

      And yet everything you said would make people MOT inclined to vote for additional Republicans, NOT just for Kemp.

      Doesn’t add up. Here let me vote for the Republican doing a good job but I’ll vote for the Democrats who mess everything up?

      No, smalls…

        rebelgirl in reply to gonzotx. | December 7, 2022 at 10:23 am

        Nope sounds just about right to me…that’s how it rolls….The turnout wasn’t as high as the November election either..so there’s that. Also, I would say that the smear-mercials that Warnock was running were pretty effective in tampening down independents…
        It was sickening how low the Warnock campaign stooped…There were several including one that compared anything Walker said to dog poop…yes, seriously.

      Concise in reply to rebelgirl. | December 7, 2022 at 11:48 am

      What the #$%#%?? Then why didn’t you just mail in a ballot like all the existent and non-existent democrats?

        Exactly. A 55% turnout and a long wait is the exact prescription for losing, when the other party actually has a get out the mail-in ballot operation. Duh! My nationally known swing district actually did turn over from Democrat to Republican, because of gerrymandering, but with zero Republican mail-in ballot effort.

        rebelgirl in reply to Concise. | December 7, 2022 at 5:17 pm

        I tried the mail in ballot two years ago..my husband received his but mine never came. I had to vote a provisional ballot and I don’t know that it was ever counted…so never again.

          Concise in reply to rebelgirl. | December 7, 2022 at 5:39 pm

          Fair enough although your experience seems to point the meter more to the fraud/manipulation range regarding the handling of election elections, or at least certain national elections.

      retiredcantbefired in reply to rebelgirl. | December 7, 2022 at 5:05 pm

      This may all be true, but then how have Georgia mainstream Republicans managed to make Jon Ossoff and (now) Raphael Warnock both into full-term US Senators?

      It is part of the historical record that Kemp, in a year when he wasn’t up for re-election, and Raffensperger, when he also wasn’t, invited CTCL (the bearers of Zuckerbucks) to Georgia to “help out” with the election system. CTCL wasn’t allowed in this year.

      It’s also part of the historical record that Loeffler was Kemp’s choice for the seat vacated by Isakson.

      Mauiobserver in reply to rebelgirl. | December 7, 2022 at 9:17 pm

      Maybe but the sitting GOPe Lt Gov was all over the press in the final days of early voting saying that after an hour in a line he decided that he could not cast a vote for Walker or Warnock.

      Message to other GOPe voters sit this one out we don’t have one of our guys in the race.

    The Gentle Grizzly in reply to guyjones. | December 7, 2022 at 10:14 am

    “I don’t know Georgia politics, but, does anyone have thoughts on how Kemp can be re-elected as a GOP governor, yet, the vile Warnock wins election as a Dumb-o-crat senator?”

    Yes. The Republicans ran a candidate whose claim to fame is his being an athlete. Please. Someone, anyone, explain what was on offer aside from not-Warnock?

      Irrefutable logic. We must accept all results because we like other results. Nothing to see here and I sincerely hope no one every examines or audits any county processes. Improprieties, fraud. That’s crazy talk.

    Danny in reply to guyjones. | December 7, 2022 at 10:28 am

    Easily Kemp ran on conservative solutions to Georgia’s problems not on Trump.

    Kemp also had no scandals (a gigantic plus; scandals could threaten a Democrat with all the institutions on their side).

    Kemp took the campaign seriously

    Kemp never put his foot in his mouth

    Kemp didn’t have his family turn on him during the campaign

    In other words Kemp appealed to the middle and was able to avoid being thought of as the Trump acolyte.

      rebelgirl in reply to Danny. | December 7, 2022 at 10:49 am

      Great answer

      Concise in reply to Danny. | December 7, 2022 at 11:56 am

      Uh huh, But that wasn’t the question. The question was why choose Warnock over Walker. Walker wasn’t running against Kemp. What is it about Warnock that is so attractive to Georgia voters?

        MosesZD in reply to Concise. | December 7, 2022 at 12:02 pm

        Because Walker is a mentally-ill clown who is unfit emotionally and intellectually to be a Senator. I voted mostly Republican, some Libertarian and even a couple of Democrats this last election BECAUSE THEY WERE THE BEST CANDIDATES.

        Partisan voting is why you get shitty candidates like Walker. All the Trumpers just had to fuck it up! Warnock could have been beaten by a competent, less-jackass-radical candidate.

        But, NOOO, GA didn’t get that. Instead the Trumpers had to keep fucking the rest of us over as they worshiped the friggin’ idiotic grifter and suck down one idoitic conspiracy theory after another.

        Well, not all us are radical dipshits and understand government needs balance not the Trumper Utopia they all think he could bring. They’re as bad and blind as Stalinists and Maoists.

          Concise in reply to MosesZD. | December 7, 2022 at 5:43 pm

          Do we really need inflation, economic decline, high energy costs, an insecure border, and an epically disastrous foreign policy to balance against the prosperity of the Trump administration? I would think not but to each his own.

        rebelgirl in reply to Concise. | December 7, 2022 at 1:08 pm

        Look at who voted for him! While a lot has been said about what a poor quality candidate that Herschel was..and maybe he was….However, the Warnock voters have bought into the storyline about how women have lost their reproductive rights. Warnock was actually running commercials earlier this fall claiming a women could be jailed for having a miscarriage.
        Warnock gets all the votes from people who like their candidates slick and smooth.

          Concise in reply to rebelgirl. | December 7, 2022 at 1:35 pm

          No offense (and excluding you), but if that’s true and this election really expresses the will of the majority of Georgia voters, then those voters are irredeemably stupid and decidedly lack a moral compass.

        henrybowman in reply to Concise. | December 7, 2022 at 1:11 pm

        He’s an incumbent. Which means he’s had time to spread pork.

      tbonesays in reply to Danny. | December 7, 2022 at 4:46 pm

      Kemp was the beneficiary of Abrams boycotting her own state. The Ds probably win the governorship if they run a cookie cutter demoncrat.

      retiredcantbefired in reply to Danny. | December 7, 2022 at 5:14 pm

      In 2022, Kemp’s maneuvers prior to the 2020 election should have counted as a scandal. Zuckerbucks were actually invited into Georgia.

      Looks as though, despite being a Republican, Kemp acquired some friends in the media.

      There might be some other holes in this worshipful treatment of Brian Kemp. Most readers here will have already spotted them.

You’re not Georgia…I am Georgia… we are a family of small business owners here in north Georgia. Even my grandfather worked for a family run business in Lawrenceville, GA years ago…We are the ones who make Georgia such a role model for business for others..No victimhood allowed.

    Whitewall in reply to rebelgirl. | December 7, 2022 at 9:08 am

    Love north Ga.! My mother-in-law and her family came out of Hayesville, NC, right on the Ga. line. Natives there are salt of the Earth people.

    Concise in reply to rebelgirl. | December 7, 2022 at 11:44 am

    Don’t know about victimhood but if Warnock is Georgia, Georgia is a disgrace.

      tbonesays in reply to Concise. | December 7, 2022 at 4:50 pm

      It’s a blue state now. And Warnock did not ‘squeak’ by. He blew out a favorite son by nearly 100,000 votes

        CommoChief in reply to tbonesays. | December 7, 2022 at 5:23 pm

        GA is not a blue State. They just reelected a r Gov. The Legislature is firmly in r control with r holding 34/56 State Senate seats and 103/180 house seats. They have r in 8/14 CD. Two of those d held CD are very weak d/prog the 2nd and 6th are both just under +3 for d so very attainable. The other d held CD are out of reach all at +20% d.

        There is no way GA is a blue State simply because for two election cycles the r have lost Senate races. The fact is that voters didn’t like the candidates enough to vote for them. We saw it in ’22 with 203K Kemp voters not choosing Walker. Same in ’20 with Purdue and Loeffler who both trailed DJT’s vote tally.

        That fact doesn’t make them bad candidates overall. It does mean that the GA voters will reject a candidate who is perceived by them individually as flawed in some way. We should try and find out why voters split ticket in ’20 and ’22 to try and what made them vote r at the top of the ticket but reject the Sen candidate.

          Concise in reply to CommoChief. | December 7, 2022 at 5:46 pm

          If they don’t understand that the policies of Warnock and Brandon are fundamentally flawed by now, then they wouldn’t understand a flawed candidate if he swam up and bit them on the ass.

          CommoChief in reply to CommoChief. | December 7, 2022 at 6:39 pm

          Concise,

          Many voters don’t vote straight ticket. In fact in our ideal republic shouldn’t want them to do that; the Founders had very grave reservations about political parties.

          We should ideally to voters evaluate every candidate for every office, weigh them up and choose the best for that office. Frankly, if more voters did that the r would win more elections.

          Neither Biden nor Trump was on the ballot in GA. Warnock and Walker both had baggage. Both had negative press. Of course corporate media as always code to amplify Walker’s baggage and downplay or ignore the d/prog’s baggage.

          The media is always going to hit the r candidate harder than the d/prog. That’s a fact we need to take into account moving forward as we choose nominees. We must accept that when we select a nominee then their perceived faults will be amplified by the media. That doesn’t mean we should reject a good candidate over a couple of flaws nor that Walker was a bad candidate.

          IMO, Walker shouldn’t have been the candidate. The reason is that Doug Collins should have been the choice of Kemp for appointment as Senator instead of Loeffler. Collins with the advantage of an incumbent and without the establishment jamming through Loeffler in the 2020 r primary likely wins outright in 2020 and 2022.

I guess we get what we deserve…and all the reason to stay off my property.

nordic prince | December 7, 2022 at 8:51 am

The Ds have perfected their cheat machines.

There were over 81,000 votes for the Libertarian candidate in the first election. If those had gone to Walker, he would have won. Warnock overcame that deficit plus another 85,000 votes in the runoff. No way to put lipstick on that pig.

    Concise in reply to Mike R. | December 7, 2022 at 10:01 am

    Not really, oh what’s the word? Believable.

    Danny in reply to Mike R. | December 7, 2022 at 10:34 am

    Trump made the campaign all about Trump by announcing his campaign, he then had dinner with Nick Fuentes and Kanye West, and followed it up with a message about a coup.

    The top of the party matters.

      henrybowman in reply to Danny. | December 7, 2022 at 10:47 am

      The party stabbed him in the back and helped kick him out. but he’s still the “top” of it when there’s someone to blame.
      Right.

      gonzotx in reply to Danny. | December 7, 2022 at 11:28 am

      Danny you are so predictable

      Trump 2024

      retiredcantbefired in reply to Danny. | December 7, 2022 at 5:19 pm

      So Donald Trump is the “top of the party” even though dinner with Ye and a tweet about the Constitution being invalidated guarantee that he has no further opportunity to be the “top of the party.”

      Will Donald Trump still control the Republican party after he dies?

    The Gentle Grizzly in reply to Mike R. | December 7, 2022 at 11:05 am

    Oh, those horrible pesky third parties, How DARE they get in the way of the party that buckles and folds at the slightest excuse; the party that reaches across the aisle; the party that this very minute is supporting amnesty during the lame duck period, not that it matters at this point.

    healthguyfsu in reply to Mike R. | December 7, 2022 at 12:55 pm

    Libertarians are pretty pro-abortion as a group. I don’t think you should pencil them in as conservatives.

    henrybowman in reply to Mike R. | December 7, 2022 at 1:13 pm

    But they wouldn’t have all gone to Walker, so stop making this ridiculous shoulda-woulda-coulda argument. Libertarian votes are not all displaced Republican votes. Republicans only imagine they are. In reality, they split close to 50-50.

The fix is in Romney’s niece has the votes

Because she did the job they wanted her to do…Lose!

Thank you, Donald Trump. Your influence cost the Republicans the Senate and probably cost the Republicans at least 20 seats in the House.

Dry-up and blow-away you grifting POS.

    henrybowman in reply to MosesZD. | December 7, 2022 at 1:18 pm

    Trump gave me the chance of voting for candidates I was proud to back instead of candidates I was forced to hold my nose and vote for. This was the first election in Arizona where candidates for important positions were hardcore conservatives instead of national RINO and local McCain Mafia benchwarmers. I saw the rallies and I saw the local support. I know who is responsible for losing the election for these people, and it is neither the local voter nor Donald Trump. It was all the national and local party leftovers pissy about losing “their turn.”

      I’ve seen it in my state too. Disgusting.

      CommoChief in reply to henrybowman. | December 7, 2022 at 4:28 pm

      The AZ candidates were solid. Masters and Lake weren’t some sort of weirdo, fringe folks. There were some this cycle but not those two.

      As I understand it the divisions in the center right among McCain bloc, populist bloc, libertarian bloc and hurt feelings /ego was the big problem. Closely followed by the (manufactured?) election day voting with folks unable to cast ballots. That’s my outsider view from the cheap seats anyway but AZ locals would have a much better grasp on what really happened.

      The first step in recovery is admitting you have a problem. And the Republican Party’s problem is Trump. Let’s start winning!

You Chuck You is still on today about voter suppression. It obviously isn’t bad enough for some to pull their heads out.

And, once again after the expected result is in, the usual suspects fire up the circular firing squad to ensure maximum damage to “our” side, while the other side counts the money, puts the marked cards in their pockets and exits stage left, smirking all the way.

What’s so hard to understand? The candidates were irrelevant, outside of influencing how many bogus votes the left would need for their “narrow” victory. If Walker had gotten another 100K votes, Warnock would have gotten another 100,010 votes. That’s how the system works.

Sick of winning yet?

And the Overton Window shifts leftward one more time.
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So here’s a question for you “m2AninGful cAnd1DatEs” republicans…when Trump wins the nomination what are you going to do?

You going to vote for Trump while holding your noses or are you going to do a David French, pretend your a Republican while happily voting Democrat (as you always have) AND getting a hard on lecturing us all about running m2AninGful cAnd1DatEs?