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Ukraine: U.S. Quietly Admits It has Funded 46 Biolabs in Ukraine, Kyiv Accuses Macron of Betrayal

Ukraine: U.S. Quietly Admits It has Funded 46 Biolabs in Ukraine, Kyiv Accuses Macron of Betrayal

Russia destroyed all the bridges to Severodonetsk.

Remember when the left and the media went off on Tulsi Gabbard because of concerns over the U.S.-funded biolabs in Ukraine?

RUSSIAN ASSET. CHINESE SPY. DISINFORMATION.

Oh, wait…

Plus French President Emmanuel Macron absorbs even more Russian gas, ticking off Kyiv.

46 Biolabs

What did Gabbard say in March?

March 13, 2022.

What did the Defense Department quietly admit on June 9? (I missed it due to travel):

  • The United States has also worked collaboratively to improve Ukraine’s biological safety, security, and disease surveillance for both human and animal health, providing support to 46 peaceful Ukrainian laboratories, health facilities, and disease diagnostic sites over the last two decades. The collaborative programs have focused on improving public health and agricultural safety measures at the nexus of nonproliferation.

Ukraine owns and operates its public health laboratories and associated infrastructure, and the United States is proud to collaborate, cooperate, and provide assistance in support of this infrastructure. These facilities operate just like other state or local public health and research laboratories around the world. Furthermore, all equipment and training provided by the United States is subject to U.S. export control processes, audits, and acquisition laws and regulations, which ensures transparency and compliance with domestic and international laws.

What did the media report a few weeks ago?

CBS News: Meet the Detroit-born Ukrainian scientist in the crosshairs of Russia’s biological “military labs” disinformation campaign

Now does that mean the labs are as nefarious as Russia and China make them seem to be? Absolutely not!

It’s not like Tulsi made it sound like the U.S. and Ukraine had these evil nuclear plans cooking in the backyards of Kyiv.

Is anyone shocked the U.S. has these biolabs? I’m not. We probably have them everywhere.

But go ahead, leftists, and make everything seem like it’s all at a 12 when it’s not even at a 2.

Chernihiv Evacuation

The bombing of Chernihiv has led to officials evacuating the city:

Russian forces fired three missiles on Pryluky district in Ukraine’s northern Chernihiv region, forcing evacuations of some residents due to the fear of fire spreading, according to officials.

A still image of the aftermath showed a massive, black plume of smoke rising above the skyline.

“At about 1:15 p.m., the occupiers fired three missiles at Pryluky in the Chernihiv region,” Ukraine’s Operational Command “North” said in a statement on Facebook.

Evacuations have been announced for the villages of Zaiizd, Petrivske, Tykhe and Sukhostavets of Pryluky district.

“The reason for that is the threat of fire spreading,” said Serhii Boldyrev, director of the Department of Civil Defense of the Chernihiv Regional State Administration, told Ukraine’s public broadcaster.

While there are no known casualties, the Chernihiv region has not been a regular target of Russian strikes or shelling recently.

In March of this year, Chernihiv “suffered great losses,” specifically the city of Chernihiv, after coming under sustained Russian attack leaving scores dead.

Chernihiv was then occupied by Russian forces, but they withdrew in April.

Severodonetsk

Russia destroyed every bridge to Severodonetsk. Civilians are stuck. No one can get in to help them:

With the city effectively cut off, Serhiy Haidai says delivering supplies and evacuating civilians are now impossible.

Fierce fighting is taking place in the eastern city where Ukrainian officials said Russian artillery had driven its forces out of the centre.

For weeks capturing Severodonetsk has been a top military goal for Russia.

Taking Severodonetsk and the nearby city of Lysychansk would give Moscow control of the entire Luhansk region, much of which is already controlled by Russian-backed separatists.

All three bridges into Severodonetsk were destroyed, Mr Haidai posted on Telegram. Those residents remaining in the city were being forced to survive in “extremely difficult conditions”, he added.

Former British soldier Jordan Gatley is among those to have been killed while fighting to defend the city, his family confirmed on Sunday.

Ukraine’s President Volodomyr Zelensky described the human cost of the battle for the city as “terrifying”. Ukrainian troops, he said, had been fighting Russian forces for “literally every metre”.

Reports suggest that about 70% of the city is now under Russian control.

Macron Betrays Ukraine?

Man, Macron cannot win.

It’s not easy letting go of a main energy source. France is not the only one, by the way:

Russia made €93 billion (£80 billion) in fossil fuel exports during the first 100 days of the war, according to a report from the Centre for Research on Energy and Clean Air (Crea), an independent research organisation based in Finland.

The EU in total accounted for 61 per cent of Russia’s total fossil fuel exports, worth about €57 billion (£49 billion), even as the bloc moved to reduce its dependence on Russian energy.

France, Belgium and the Netherlands had snapped up shipments of the Kremlin’s fossil fuels at discounted prices after other buyers cut back their purchases during the conflict, Crea said.

While Russian missiles and bombs were raining down on Ukraine in April and May, France received 12 shipments of liquefied natural gas (LNG) and other fossil fuel products worth almost €900 million (£773 million), the report showed.

But let’s not forget that Macron has been talking to Putin a lot since the full-scale invasion began.

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Comments

taurus the judge | June 14, 2022 at 8:09 am

In no way is this to be construed as any sort of support for Russia or justification for any of their actions in this “military activity” but…

As much as any country when it decides to take up arms for whatever reason in terms of “justification”—-

A legitimate argument can be made that a “preemptive strike” could have been justified from a Russian POV.

Lets look at the “circumstantial case” ( from the same view as those promoting red flag laws and other fantasy based ideas)

These bio labs are “danger close” to Russia soil ( danger close means well inside the effective range of a weapon). They could be deployed in stealth with no defense.

There is no question the left has demonized Russia ( justly and unjustly) and this could be construed as “war talk” and provocation.

The left can certainly NOT be trusted to act with ethics, honesty or respect for any law so the distrust combined with the reasonable expectation of a “sneak attack” is more than justified. ( look at Covid and the election theft)

All things equal and a level playing field, we may eventually discover the Russians were at least partially justified in their actions in this. ( as much as even we were in the War on Terror and others)

    CellarDoor in reply to taurus the judge. | June 14, 2022 at 10:11 am

    I’m not sure why this publication mentions France doing business with Russia when Israel has flat out refused to even implement sanctions on Russia.. they do record business with Russia zero moral reservations.

      CommoChief in reply to CellarDoor. | June 14, 2022 at 11:07 am

      Every sovereign Nation gets that option. Moral reservations? Ok, now apply the same condemnation for Nations doing business with Saudi Arabia. They are prosecuting a conflict in Yemen with many of the same human rights abuse claims being made against Russia. How about the very unwoke characteristics of Saudi society?

        randian in reply to CommoChief. | June 14, 2022 at 9:00 pm

        I agree, nobody should be doing business with Saudi Arabia or Qatar, or indeed any Islam-ruled country. Islamic banks should be cut off from the world financial system, they’re all money-laundering fronts for terrorists. Islamic charities directly pay cash to terrorists and their families, as payments to the mujahideen are one of the explicitly permitted uses of zakat. Nigeria’s government does nothing about the routine slaughter of Christians in Southern Nigeria. Open slave markets have come back into vogue.

    Our enemy is not in Moscow. He’s in the White House.

    healthguyfsu in reply to taurus the judge. | June 14, 2022 at 3:03 pm

    As soon as Hillary’s check cleared for the yellow cake sale, the Dems ramped up the anti-Russia propaganda machine for other profits.

    Grift is all they do all of the time.

    AnAdultInDiapers in reply to taurus the judge. | June 15, 2022 at 4:41 am

    You might have a point if..
    – every country on the planet didn’t have biolabs
    – Russia had mentioned the biolabs before invading rather than after they’d already failed to meet their stated objectives of taking Kiev, Kharkiv and Odessa
    – Peter the Great’s self-proclaimed successor hadn’t admitted that this is a war of imperial expansion

    Oh, and it’s not ‘military activity’, it’s an illegal invasion that’s caused a war.

      taurus the judge in reply to AnAdultInDiapers. | June 15, 2022 at 11:35 am

      Aww, my favorite no combat, know nothing REMF has come for another corrective interview ( wall to wall counseling)- so for your continuing improvement and education…

      I have many points, here are but a few:

      >>every country on the planet didn’t have biolabs

      Have you been to every country and seen these labs? Tell us about that or was this just another of your made up invalid points to make you sound like you have an intelligent counter? It failed.

      >>>Russia had mentioned the biolabs before invading rather than after they’d already failed to meet their stated objectives of taking Kiev, Kharkiv and Odessa

      You wouldn’t know this because you have never ventured beyond your couch but countries( especially in conflict) NEVER give out all the details for anything. That’s SOP to never let others gauge what they know ( and don’t know)

      >>>Peter the Great’s self-proclaimed successor hadn’t admitted that this is a war of imperial expansion

      See above

      >>>Oh, and it’s not ‘military activity’, it’s an illegal invasion that’s caused a war.

      “Illegal” by what law or treaty? Who “enforces” this treaty? Did Russia sign and agree to this “law” or treaty? Enlighten us.

        AnAdultInDiapers in reply to taurus the judge. | June 15, 2022 at 4:38 pm

        The denial here reeks of working in St Petersburg.

        Yes, every country has biolabs. Maybe – and only maybe – not The Vatican, but everybody else.

        As for your denial of Russian intentions, Russia was flailing around going on about nazis to try and justify the invasion, latched onto clowns in the US wittering on about biolabs and, since capturing/destroying several, has found.. nothing. Absolutely nothing.

        As for the imperial expansion that PUTIN ADMITTED TO ffs, it’s illegal according to Ukrainian law. Russia doesn’t have to sign or agree to Ukrainian law, it just has to obey it in Ukraine.

        But since you ask, Russia is in breach of its treaty obligations under Minsk, Minsk 2 and the Budpaest Memorandum – https://treaties.un.org/doc/Publication/UNTS/Volume%203007/Part/volume-3007-I-52241.pdf

        So sorry for citing actual references, I just feel it’s important to counter Russian propaganda.

          taurus the judge in reply to AnAdultInDiapers. | June 15, 2022 at 5:04 pm

          Damn you’re a special class of dumb

          Let me deconstruct your crap by the numbers

          1) I haven’t denied anything

          2) You state an assumption as a fact with nothing to back it up and were called on t. Where are these labs, who runs them and how did you identify them?

          3) I haven’t denied Russian intentions- I have done the opposite. I have stated on numerous threads we DO NOT KNOW Russia’s “true reason(s). And neither do you. The entire concept and history of propaganda by a sovereign in time of war for political purposes must totally escapee you.

          4) If its a violation of Ukrainian law, let them go arrest the Russian army and bring them to trial. Russia isn’t bound by Ukrainian law any more than Texas is.

          5) Look oh uneducated one, a “Memorandum of Understanding’ is a “gentleman’s agreement” in a civil realm. It is NOT a “treaty” in and of itself and carries no force. Also, with the biolabs and not knowing all the facts, the possibility remains the Russians did have legal justification for an invasion. Even if they didn’t, guess what- THEY STILL INVADED.

          You need to get your dead couch potato REMF ass up and parachute over there, hold up a stop sign and a copy of your MOA and harshly admonish those mean nasty Russians and tell them to play by the rules.

          That will almost certainly get their full and undivided attention.

It’s no surprise that western European nations are snapping up oil and other fossil fuels. I called it when the EU passed the oil sanction against Russia that didn’t go into full effect until December. The logical reaction for such a long timeline was EU countries will end up buying a lot more oil in the near term. This is why Russia believe it can win the long war. It’s still getting a lot of cash from abroad, both openly and through black markets.

    MattMusson in reply to Guardian79. | June 14, 2022 at 10:55 am

    Since Germany closed their nuke plants and went Green, they have dramatically increased the amount of Lignite that they are using for power. Even though they built out their Green energy grid to a theoretical percentage of 158% of peak electricity usage, in reality it only generates about 8% of Germany energy usage. The three biggest sources of electricity in Germany are: France, Lignite and Coal.

      Ironclaw in reply to MattMusson. | June 14, 2022 at 1:19 pm

      Reality is, Germany is too far north for solar to work efficiently enough to do what they thought it would.

      healthguyfsu in reply to MattMusson. | June 14, 2022 at 3:05 pm

      France is doing wayyy better than Germany on energy policy. They are using nuclear power at a huge clip while Germany is committed to the solar money pit that doesn’t have enough energy density and leads to both foreign import requirements and a larger accumulation of hazardous waste than nuclear.

Going on 4 months into Russian invasion and the govt has finally admitted that the DoD was funding biolabs in Ukraine which they claim are limited to ‘public health and agricultural safety’. They further claim these effects were initiated to provide a transition from bio weapons research conducted by Soviets to peaceful research.

A glaring omission is any statement providing the date that the stocks of Soviet era bio nasties were destroyed as required by the authorizing legislation. Years of govt service left me cynical and when viewing govt statements its more important to review and identify what they leave unsaid. Especially when the statement is crafted to imply or infer that the unsaid has been done.

What else will we learn in the future about our Govt actions re Ukraine that they are reluctant to tell us today? Almost certainly whatever those future revelations are about those actions they will not be as anodyne as our govt implies. I suspect that an increase in sunlight would reveal any number of cockroaches scurrying away.

    I suspect that we will learn something in the future about those Ukraine labs at about the same time that we learn full details of our involvement with the Wuhan lab.

    JohnSmith100 in reply to CommoChief. | June 14, 2022 at 5:27 pm

    The question is that if these labs have bioweapons, then why aren’t Russian’s dropping like flies right now? Most certainly the invasion and Russia’s conduct merit wholesale death in Russia.

    InEssence in reply to CommoChief. | June 14, 2022 at 10:59 pm

    I heard that the biolabs were in Ukraine, because it was illegal to have them in the USA.

      henrybowman in reply to InEssence. | June 16, 2022 at 12:08 am

      Bingo. For the same reason CIA’s torture facilities are in Cuba and Saudi Arabia, because they’re illegal to have here.

When can Congresswoman Gabbard expect that apology from Mittens?

They can claim they’re Ukrainian labs all day, but if the US DoD is funding them, the US DoD effectively controls them. And how hard is it to move from public and animal health research labs to research into enhanced function viruses to small-scale weaponized production?

Regarding the “danger close” comment, above, I would suggest there is nowhere outside the effective range of a bioweapon, especially if an animal like a bird, a bat, or a human can be a transmission vector.

Yet another “conspiracy theory” that has been proven true.

    taurus the judge in reply to Idonttweet. | June 14, 2022 at 10:09 am

    @idonttweet; Re: >>Regarding the “danger close” comment, above, I would suggest there is nowhere outside the effective range of a bioweapon, especially if an animal like a bird, a bat, or a human can be a transmission vector.

    The statement as you wrote it is technically correct but not in context. Bioweapons are both living disease and toxins (dead by-products) and can be spored for longer resiliency in many cases.

    Vectoring is one method of dissemination ( very effective albeit slow) as is spraying/ fogging, manual placement which are more direct.

    It is also conceded ( even though you didn’t outright say it) that almost any bio attack is stealthy by nature of the agent.

    My point was this:

    An attack could “theoretically” be launched with zero advance notice or reaction time and could even be launched “outside” the border and allowed to “drift” in ( vectors and other means)

    Basically a perpetual knife at the throat.

      Idonttweet in reply to taurus the judge. | June 14, 2022 at 12:22 pm

      @taurus the judge – Not disputing a thing you said. While I didn’t explain it as thoroughly as you, my point was simply that there really is no maximum effective range for a biological weapon.

        taurus the judge in reply to Idonttweet. | June 14, 2022 at 1:41 pm

        I hope you didn’t take it as me implying you were. You are quite correct and I should have been more clear on what I was saying.

This is only an “admission” if you’re under 30. After the fall of the Soviet Union, the US openly began funding former Soviet biolabs to keep the researchers and material from the black market.

    CommoChief in reply to Crawford. | June 14, 2022 at 11:01 am

    Yes that’s true but with the stated purpose of the authorizing legislation being to incinerate or otherwise destroy the stocks of Soviet era nasties. That’s how this project was sold in the early 1990s. I see no mention in the fact sheet or any public statement from our govt that unequivocally declares that 100% of stocks have been destroyed and that no research continues with materials that could be weaponized.

    Keeping stocks of say Anthrax for ‘research’ purposes is very nebulous. Is that research entirely benign? Doubtful. Until there is a full and transparent accounting of all the activities in these labs conducted by disinterested third parties we should be very skeptical of any govt claims about their intent or actions. Especially considering there are few disinterested third parties here; every NATO and EU member has disqualified themselves based on their support for Ukraine which may itself be another layer to the goal of maintaining zero transparency.

      Voyager in reply to CommoChief. | June 14, 2022 at 11:19 am

      The point was to keep the researchers employed so they didn’t get hired by anyone we didn’t want doing that sort of thing.

      So, yes, they are going to be doing, preferably, superfluous wasteful research, until they all age out and retire, because it’s way less expensive than dealing with it if they actually do anything real.

        CommoChief in reply to Voyager. | June 14, 2022 at 11:44 am

        That began thirty years ago. If these youngest of guys were newly minted PHDs that would place them in their very late twenties in 1991. That makes them at best late 50s or early 60s in age. Not to mention that the youngest cohort of researchers would have had the most options for relocation to the West or to transition to purely civilian applications in other areas.

        The argument that we are still in essence bribing these former Soviet researchers as a necessity after three decades is specious. The US govt has plenty of options besides that, including some less than savory but highly effective means of ensuring they didn’t wander off to N Korea.

          All Seeing Eye in reply to CommoChief. | June 15, 2022 at 11:34 am

          Exactly this. The US didn’t employ Wernher von Braun in a hope that he wouldn’t carry on building rockets for someone else,

          And the least said about later Allied employment of some of the Japanese camp ‘doctors’ the better.

          We’ve given jobs to many awful people over the years because they have skills. Simple as that.

        Ironclaw in reply to Voyager. | June 14, 2022 at 1:21 pm

        It would have been cheaper to simply give them mansions and a million dollars a year in pensions here.

Does anyone else still wonder how we got an engineered Coronavirus followed by the Swine Encephalitis and the Avian Flu and the engineered MonkeyPox one after the other.

We will never get another significant Virus we won’t suspect is deliberately or accidentally released from one of these Labs.

    Dathurtz in reply to MattMusson. | June 14, 2022 at 11:04 am

    The real question: What is the proper response to our elite engineering bioweapons and causing calamity after calamity (real or manufactured)?

    Voyager in reply to MattMusson. | June 14, 2022 at 11:22 am

    Those didn’t come out of the Welfare for Cold War bioweapons researcher.

    Those appear to have come out of a different crew looking for grants and notoriety.

Mary,

DOD says these are “46 peaceful Ukrainian laboratories, health facilities, and disease diagnostic sites.” You are implying that these are the ones which Gabbard said “if breached would release & spread deadly pathogens to US/world”, but you provide no evidence for this.

My issue is that the same people who have been lying to us for years have been transparently manipulating us to support fighting Russian invaders in Ukraine, while our government throws *our* border open to invaders from Mexico. At the start of the war I was considering donating supplies for the Ukrainians, but I glad I didn’t, since our government has donated ~$70,000,000,000 to Ukraine, including *my* tax payments.

About the biolabs to anyone not just believing the liberal establishment
we knew about them months ago. This story has been out for months and you could have literally found evidence for it in budget items.

The binary of “believe in the liberal establishment or your a Putin ally” is not acceptable unless you want that standard on every issue that isn’t Russia related. Mark Twain defined patriotism well, and I don’t think it includes funding research in other countries that has been correctly banned on American soil.

As for French “betrayal” if you want America to lose allies that are worth more than a penny and actually capable of helping us out in some way besides symbolic UN votes keep up the jingoism.

1. France has sent SPA, high tech anti-tank missiles and other extremely expensive equipment to Ukraine-Should they cut off the spigot? Like Turkey you are entitled to your opinion on France you are not entitled to your own reality about what the French actually did. If Ukraine is so betrayed would it like to send the material support France sent free of charge back to Paris?

2. Yes Macron is trying to figure out terms to end the war, he isn’t interested in continuing America’s regime change crusade because he is not a pre-teen boy writing “stories” about how monsters die and the hero wins; he is more interested in what the results of the 22 year regime change crusade has actually gone (i.e. Libya, Iraq etc).

3. He is most likely correct that it would be reckless to humiliate Russia and we need a peace treaty that allows Putin to claim victory unless you could show me who you think will take over Russia after him.

4. When another nations disagrees with us it isn’t a betrayal. France is not our vassal state, we are Russia (at least not yet the last years have shown us becoming more and more like Russia and China), we did not conquer them after WW2 we liberated them. Yes they have their own interests and pursuing them isn’t a betrayal. They have joined our proxy war and given very lavishly to Ukraine, and are now trying to pursue their agenda of finding terms acceptable to both sides which means communications with Russia and a desire to avoid humiliating the Putin regime with a defeat (which would mean the end of the Putin regime so what then? Another Russian Civil War? A man who makes the Iranians look sane and moderate in charge? Macron is right to want to avoid potential apocalypse the wrong person taking over in Russia could bring).

If you treat allies not named Britain badly they will not remain allies (and god knows why the UK loves us so much as we back the EU trying to shut off commerce between England and Northern Ireland). Treating France having a difference of opinion as traitor is not how you treat an ally.

“Biolab” is an astonishingly broad definition. We have labs at every major port of entry to examine food products being imported, labs scattered all across wheat and corn country to examine beetles and blight, weevils and weeds, and labs to double-check on the labs that do work. Every hospital has a lab either at the site or nearby, every food manufacturer has access to labs for a constant stream of samples for bacteria and other contaminants.

The question is how many biological *warfare* labs were funded, not just for detection and treatment of unidentified chemicals and bio-products being released, but for the *offensive* use of such items.

I suspect that number is miniscule, if any.

    CommoChief in reply to georgfelis. | June 14, 2022 at 3:34 pm

    What exactly has been going on for 30 years? Why don’t we have a detailed accounting of the activities? The Deputy Sec State testified in open hearings that the US govt was alarmed that these same facilities might be captured by Russia. If the facilities were harmless then why worry?

      All Seeing Eye in reply to CommoChief. | June 15, 2022 at 11:43 am

      Exactly this. I did some construction work at a US-funded biolab in the middle of the Algerian desert about a decade ago.

      Yeah. It was probably all about the beetles and weevils.

    henrybowman in reply to georgfelis. | June 15, 2022 at 12:11 pm

    That might explain bioabs in CONUS.
    Now explain US-funded biolabs in obscure foreign countries.
    You know, the ones that there are zero constitutional authority for funding.

Russia is winning in Ukraine.
It is just a fact.
I know this isn’t a popularity contest, so I just call them as I see them.

Frankly, this has the spor of the CIA all over it.

It won’t be the first time that DoD has been used as the handy scapegoat in a situation like this.

“What did Gabbard say in March?”
Under Biden, the TTF (Time To Fact) of conspiracy theories is approaching zero as we watch.
Homework problem #1: Given the established TTF curve, in what date range will the MSM eventually be forced to issue same-day retractions?
(Personal reminder to Kareen: SHOW YOUR WORK.)

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