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Democrats are Desperately Looking for an Alternative to Biden in 2024

Democrats are Desperately Looking for an Alternative to Biden in 2024

“With Trumpism reascendant, ambivalence about Biden’s age and political standing is fueling skepticism just as the image of his understudy, Vice-President Kamala Harris, dips even further than his.”

As we recently noted, many top Democrats are already trying to position themselves to step in in 2024. They have good reasons for doing this. At Biden’s advanced age, anything could happen.

When it comes to polls, Harris fares worse than Biden, making this problem even worse for Democrats.

Over at New York Magazine, Gabriel Debenedetti describes the desperate talk that’s happening in hushed tones:

There Has to Be a Backup Plan. There’s a Backup Plan, Right? Inside the 2024 soul-searching that’s happening in every corner of the Democratic Party.

On a Tuesday evening in April, nearly half a century after Joe Biden first publicly mused about running for president, an unsettled cross section of the Democratic Establishment assembled at Pinehurst, a golf resort in North Carolina. Inflation was at a 40-year high, Biden’s disapproval rating sat at 56 percent, and editors at the New York Times were readying a front-page report about how his signature achievement — $1.9 trillion in coronavirus-relief spending — has “barely registered with voters.” The lobbyists, donors, staffers, and elected officials were gathering for the spring policy meeting of the Democratic Governors Association, and the scheduled sessions concerned such topics as health care and diversity in governance. But between panel discussions, in the hallways and at the cocktail reception on the lawn, conversation shifted from grim — the midterms — to grimmer: the state of the party’s planning for 2024, when Biden will stand for reelection on the eve of his 82nd birthday.

Biden hasn’t formally announced his campaign for a second term, but in his mind there’s no question he’s running. “That’s my expectation,” he said early in his tenure. “Yes!” he told an interviewer nine months later, sighing a little performatively at having to keep repeating it. “It’s been his life,” says one of his longtime advisers. “It’s like a shark that keeps swimming. It’s how he stays alive.” Or as another top Democrat puts it, “He was told in ’16 he couldn’t cut it. He runs in ’20 and everybody rolls their eyes, and he still wins. So why in the world now would he be like, ‘You guys are right. I am old’?” And yet many of the plugged-in Democrats wandered Pinehurst not entirely persuaded, calculating contingencies: If Biden’s health turned, or if his polling truly collapsed, which of the party’s governors might step up and save them from electoral ruin — and the nightmare of a Trump comeback?…

With Trumpism reascendant, ambivalence about Biden’s age and political standing is fueling skepticism just as the image of his understudy, Vice-President Kamala Harris, dips even further than his. The most recent analysis from the Los Angeles Times has her net approval rating at negative 11. The result is a bizarre disconnect within the Democratic Party, with two factions talking past each other. One group consists of Biden and his loyalists, who are convinced that while the ticket’s numbers are undeniably bleak, they’re historically unsurprising for a president and VP facing their first midterm and will surely bounce back. The second group comprises a broad swath of the Democratic elite and rank and file alike, who suspect that vectors of age, succession, and strategy have created a dynamic with no obvious parallel in recent history.

The biggest problem for Democrats is figuring out how they are going to get rid of Biden and Harris if they think they must. What if Biden insists on running? If Biden doesn’t run, isn’t Harris going to just naturally expect the baton to be handed to her?

Commenting on the same article, Bonchie of RedState notes that Democrats have painted themselves into a corner:

It’s a conundrum and one that isn’t easily solved. Harris is popular within the base of the party, and she will also carry the black vote in any Democrat primary. As the article notes, that makes her almost a shoo-in should Biden step aside. Yet, party insiders do not think she can win the general election, and I think they are correct in that judgment.

So where do Democrats go from here? Nowhere good is the answer. They are stuck in a kind of political purgatory where the incumbent president is a clearly declining, incapable old man who will be almost 82-years-old by the time of the next presidential election. Yet, the alternative of Kamala Harris is hardly preferable, and machinations to try to place a more “moderate” figure such as Roy Cooper at the top of the ticket are sure to fail and further destroy the party.

These are the fruits of putting Biden in office in the first place when it was clear he was not up for the job.

I’ll give the last word to Stephen L. Miller:

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Biden has more hair on the back of his bald head than they have alternates to run in his place.

    AF_Chief_Master_Sgt in reply to Peabody. | May 25, 2022 at 9:22 pm

    I pray every day that Biden lives a long, long time, or at least to the 2024 election.

    Otherwise we get Cameltoe.

    No wonder she spent her younger years in the sack. No one wanted her to talk.

    Dimsdale in reply to Peabody. | May 26, 2022 at 7:45 am

    Too late: Kamala is in place. That is an America hating “two fer” by the Democrat socialists.

    Dumb and dumber, part deux.

henrybowman | May 25, 2022 at 1:11 pm

Nah.
Run him again.
Run him until limbs start falling off.
Pass a law that forces the Democrats to run him in 2024.

    The Gentle Grizzly in reply to henrybowman. | May 25, 2022 at 1:14 pm

    Don’t we have enough laws?

    Another Voice in reply to henrybowman. | May 25, 2022 at 4:38 pm

    “They are stuck in a kind of political purgatory”

    For Sure…Live by the Sword, Die by the Sword.
    The DNC knowingly going in that there was a very strong possibility (based on his basement campaigning) after winning what the options in 4 years would be. Sometime in the next 10 months the same ones will have decide that ole Joe DOES have dementia and then PAY thru the nose and have Kamala “decide” to decline running. Alas, So much to do and so little time to do it.

The Gentle Grizzly | May 25, 2022 at 1:13 pm

Stacey Abrams
George P Bush
Gavin Newsome
Maxine Waters
Sheila Jackson Lee
AOC
Andrew Gillum
Cathy Hoschul
Gretchen Witmer (do?)

    The Gentle Grizzly in reply to The Gentle Grizzly. | May 25, 2022 at 1:13 pm

    (Sp?)

    I think they might run BootGigger.

    healthguyfsu in reply to The Gentle Grizzly. | May 25, 2022 at 1:45 pm

    LOL…what a list of no-talent whining hacks…every last one of them.

    Have they ever had anything positive to say other than “we destroyed this or that…yay!”

    IneedAhaircut in reply to The Gentle Grizzly. | May 25, 2022 at 2:07 pm

    I checked and AOC was born October 13, 1989, so she would be just old enough to run. I don’t think she’d do it, but she’s one of the few that could easily knock Harris out of the race.

      AF_Chief_Master_Sgt in reply to IneedAhaircut. | May 25, 2022 at 9:15 pm

      If I were Harris, I would not stand behind AOC. Who knows when that jackass, err Donkey, err Democrat, is gonna kick.

    taurus the judge in reply to The Gentle Grizzly. | May 26, 2022 at 11:32 am

    No Griz, that list wont work.

    Here’s why: (and why they have such a problem)

    All of those ( and a few others) could not be nationally elected. (one of the key metrics they look at)

    The only one on your list who “might” would be AOC and she simply isn’t ready yet. ( you can bet she is on the “list”)

    That’s why people can also forget Oprah, Michelle/Michael and that group- they would get the celebrity and Michael Moore Cheeseburger vote but could not carry a national vote.

    The one who COULD ( the best chance) would be Bernie but the sun will never rise on the day the puppet masters will allow him to run because the LAST THING they would want is for him to actually WIN.

    Here is why ( he is like Trump in this regard). Bernie is a true textbook socialist. The “left” is not “socialist” ( they are pure dictatorial with delusions of godhood)- they simply use the “tenets” and “techniques” of the socialism model to achieve their goals. Just like Trump is MAGA ( neither GOP traditional or RINO)

    True “textbook socialism” would eventually turn their guns on the left as well as they would be a threat.

    This is why they will NEVER let Bernie be the flag bearer and stopped him twice before.

    At the moment, the only “viable” name on the list is Hillary who checks all the boxes.

    That said, her star is falling in a number of ways and her viability may even end shortly.

    This is why they are so upset- they literally have nobody they feel they can sell to the people at the moment.

If it isn’t Harris, the identity politics people, fem, non gender specific crowd will have a fit. She is VP.

    CommoChief in reply to Whitewall. | May 25, 2022 at 5:46 pm

    That is an issue. Anyone else as VP and they can ease out Harris into a role as Ambassador to India for two years followed by cushy board seats. She can have a chance to reinvent herself and try for Gov or stay on the very profitable sideline.

    Maybe shove Feinstein out, get Newsome on board as incoming VP, he appoints Harris to Senate before he leaves, they push Biden out so Newsome has a couple years as POTUS and incumbency in 2024? Replace him as VP with whoever the loudest screeching in d/prog base demands?

    Martin in reply to Whitewall. | May 26, 2022 at 11:59 am

    This is why the planned 25th amendment replacement of Joe on Jan 21, 2023 may not happen. If they let her rise to the presidency they will be stuck with her for 2024 and they recently recognized that she is as unlikeable as Hillary with less name recognition.

WasTaiwanese=NowFullAmerican | May 25, 2022 at 1:43 pm

Ds desperately looking for an alternative?

Well, that could explain why Bernie just sent a musical message to the DNC,

Put Me in Coach, I’m Ready to Play,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOwPr6kGHRE

Well, as a last resort, they could always have the person who is behind the scenes running things to step out and admit they’ve been running things. And therefore they are qualified to be president since they have a lot of presidential experience.

    AF_Chief_Master_Sgt in reply to Peabody. | May 25, 2022 at 9:16 pm

    Obama can’t run again.

      CommoChief in reply to AF_Chief_Master_Sgt. | May 26, 2022 at 6:18 pm

      He could serve as POTUS though, in a roundabout manner. Kick Harris to the curb, get the light bringer as VP, kick Biden to the curb and viola.

      Of course they would have to get any replacement VP past r because there is a Congressional vote so not likely.

Stolen elections have grave consequences.

    TheOldZombie in reply to Paul. | May 25, 2022 at 7:00 pm

    I bet there is more than a few of the election thieves who are privately thinking they made a mistake helping Joe and Kamala win. That they should have let Trump take it and just beat him up until 2024.

In old Hollywood movies, the monster would run for the hills, fearing for his life, several steps ahead of the furious mob pursuing him with flaming torches and pitch forks. Seems like a good plan for Biden and the Dems.

The tell is every Democrat with a little following thinks they are the next one, with help from the fraud should sweep right in.

My suggestion Mike, was a box or rocks.

I am blaming the sangria…

“Democrats are Desperately Looking for an Alternative to Biden in 2024”

More likely they are looking for an alternative to an election in 2024.

Biden reaffirmed today that the Constitution is not absolute. Which, I guess, means it means anything he wants and why the Left keeps violating it. “Shall not be infringed” sounds pretty absolute to me.

Whether “living” or “dried old paper”, they dearly want to drive a stake through it. Hint dear Prez… your “rule” is not absolute…. not even your puppet masters.

    RandomCrank in reply to alaskabob. | May 25, 2022 at 8:09 pm

    What did Xiden say? Context would help. Old saying: “Don’t bark ’til you know where you’ve been bit.” So where did Xiden bite this time? I need to add it to my SHTF directory.

    coyote in reply to alaskabob. | May 26, 2022 at 8:17 am

    He also included a statement to the effect that in the late 1700s, you couldn’t own a cannon. Who says? If you could afford a cannon, you could own one. What you couldn’t own was a “repeating rifle” for the same reason you couldn’t own a car or a radio or a television or a computer, and all for the same reason: they didn’t exist yet.

    But the rest he just pulls out of his ass.

    Martin in reply to alaskabob. | May 26, 2022 at 12:03 pm

    We could just read the 1st amendment the way the left reads the second “Congress shall make no law”. So all federal laws are unconstitutional.

thalesofmiletus | May 25, 2022 at 7:55 pm

They’ll just refortify the election and install literally anyone as figurehead. So long as they can halt the counting at midnight and deliver boxes of ballots at 3AM, it doesn’t really matter.

RandomCrank | May 25, 2022 at 7:57 pm

Low confidence prediction:

1. The Dems lose 40 in the House and 2 to 4 in the Senate.

2. Joe abdicates but makes sure to do it after January 20, 2023. Why? See the 22nd amendment.

3. The Dems twist themselves in knots trying to figure out what to do about President Kamelatoe. Opposing her will be racist. To whom do they turn?

4. Kamelatoe or not, this fall’s “shellacking” will be felt almost entirely by defeats of their “moderates,” so the Dems will go even further leftward. Their 2024 convention will look a lot like their 1972 convention.

5. The Dem presidential nominee gets crushed. The Senate map for ’24 is highly advantageous for the Republicans, who could come close to a filibuster-proof majority.

6. It takes 30 years for the Dems to get back into power. It wouldn’t need to take that long, as shown by their tack toward the center that got Bill Clinton elected in 1992, after 12 years of Republicans in the White House. Will the “progressives” allow Democratic Leadership Council 2.0? They would if they were smart, but I doubt it.

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Big qualifier: The Dems are stuck in a ditch on the left side of the road, and that helps the Repubs, but it’s no guarantee. Two problems: As of yet, no governing agenda. Only anger. They’d better come up with Contract With America 2.0. Second problem: How to keep the fang-dripping nutcases on the far right in line. The Dems are bedeviled by their “progressives,” but the Repubs have similar problems.

For all the media-amplified horseshit, this is a center-right country. The Republicans have a gigantic opportunity, but they’ve blown it before. By the way, they need to shitcan Senator Foghorn Leghorn from Kentucky. Anyone who thinks the deadwood is only on the Democratic side is bullshitting themselves.

If conseratives want to really change things, they’d better start playing the politics of addition. The Democrats have been playing the politics of subtraction, and so did Trump. The Republicans are in the best position they’ve been since Reagan ran in 1980; he managed to stick to his principles while attracting a shitload of people who never would have considered voting Republican.

You don’t win enduring majorities by talking just to yourselves. The Democrats are doing that, and the Republicans are in danger of it. Bottom line is that I’d much rather be in the Republicans’ shoes, but they’d better not repeat the arrogance from a different direction. The American public despises arrogant politicians, and conservatives better understand that their shit stinks too.

    Dimsdale in reply to RandomCrank. | May 26, 2022 at 7:48 am

    They opened the Pandora’s box of leftist crazies (craziers?) and now they have to live with them. Add the racist BLM and the anarchist pantifa, and you have a trifecta of anti Americanism that will hopefully crush the Democrats for a generation.

RandomCrank | May 25, 2022 at 8:07 pm

To elaborate on point #6, I’d point to four other periods.

1. The 1894 off-year election, where one-third of the House turned over and the Republicans romped. It took three elections to reverse that: 1932, 1934, and then the coup de grace of 1936. Thirty years.

2. The 1992 election. The Repubs had convinced themselves that they were in a “realignment,” and then Bill Clinton and the Democratic Leadership Council came along. Twelve years.

3. 1980 and 2008. I mention this mainly because if you look at the other two, there’s a common denominator that binds all four together: economic crisis. It’s going to be THE overriding factor this fall, as it was in 1894 and 1932-34.

The 1894 off-year election is lost in the sands of time to everyone but true politics nerds. That period is fascinating for all kinds of reasons, one being that the economy was in truly deep, deep shit.

    RandomCrank in reply to RandomCrank. | May 25, 2022 at 8:23 pm

    Dang. 1894 ushered in 40 years of Republican dominance, interrupted by Wilson. Oh well, so it’s not a perfect example. Nothing’s perfect, at least nothing made by Man.

The irony of the Dumb-o-crats’ and media’s propping up dotard Biden’s near-corpse and dragging him across the finish line in the 2020 election (with a helping hand from the Chinese communists’ Wuhan virus) is that the Dumb-o-crat bench is totally empty. All of their heirs-apparent are transparent narcissists, obnoxious totalitarians and off-putting posers — the insufferably sanctimonious Buttigieg, harlot Harris, et al.

And, now that Durham’s investigation is laying bare the full extent of crone Clinton’s/Obama’s/FBI’s lawless, illegal and brazen machinations to subvert/sabotage candidate/President Trump, and, to subvert democratic process and the voters’ will, President Trump is in pole position for a nice comeback in the 2024 election, by which time only the most rabid and fanatical Dumb-o-crat zealots would still vote for a Dumb-o-crat presidential candidate, given dotard Biden’s utterly disastrous and destructive tenure.

    henrybowman in reply to guyjones. | May 25, 2022 at 8:33 pm

    “All of their heirs-apparent are transparent narcissists, obnoxious totalitarians and off-putting posers”

    Well, there’s Tulsi. But all the rest of the inmates HATE her.

      guyjones in reply to henrybowman. | May 26, 2022 at 7:39 am

      I’ve thought that a Trump-Gabard ticket would be a cunning strategic move and unstoppable in the general election.

        taurus the judge in reply to guyjones. | May 26, 2022 at 1:20 pm

        No, it would be a total disaster.

        Do not be fooled by Tulsi like Eve was by a serpent.

        Tulsi at BEST is a liberal Democrat (Similar to Bill) but she appears not to be Socialist nor a left winger. She is not aligned with any true conservative value other than some fringe parallels.

        No legitimate conservative could or should ever support her.

        That being said, “hypothetically”, if she were to have a “Glenn Beck” type transformation ( possibly with an Apostle Paul type revelation) and she walked through enough coals barefoot to prove its not a trojan ruse then she would merit reconsideration.

        But not now.

    Dave in reply to guyjones. | May 25, 2022 at 9:01 pm

    If only Durham would investigate the election fraud that occurred in 2020…

      DSHornet in reply to Dave. | May 26, 2022 at 11:22 am

      He’s still kinda busy, but let us look forward to the sequel to the present drama. Popcorn, please.
      .

“He was told in ’16 he couldn’t cut it. He runs in ’20 and everybody rolls their eyes, and he still wins.”

He did not win, and everyone in the upper echelons of the Democrat party apparatus (ESPECIALLY THEM) knows that the election was stolen on his behalf.

Yes, he’s no doubt dead meat for 2024, and despite their optimism, I can’t see him making a comeback.

The larger question, though, is how much America has changed over the last 40-50 years. Those of us old enough to remember recall that Joe ran in 1988 and had to depart the field with his tail between his legs when it was discovered that he had plagiarized a speech by British Labour party leader Neil Kinnock.

Well, it was the same Joe Biden who ran in 2020. Not only did no one raise that issue (to an electorate that no longer cared or considered that a deal breaker), but Big Tech conspired to conceal his even more egregious transgressions in the interim, and to fix the election in his favor.

It’s not Joe Biden. It’s America to blame.

3 things strike me.

First is why are the dems in a panic? Didn’t EFF lyin’ pedo joe biden* get 81 million votes? Most. Popular. guy. Ever. In. Our. Elected.History.

Second what makes them think after they’ve destroyed the economy, peoples retirement accounts and turned the children (the ones not aborted) into zombie sex change dolls for the depraved elite – that they’ll win another term in the white house?

Third I like the optics of them going to Pinehurst. White elitists going to exclusive resorts on their voters dime. Most of their plantation workers must enjoy seeing them in a mostly if not totally white golfing enclave.

Anybody else remember Joe Diffie’s song?

Well I ain’t afraid of dying it’s the thought of being dead
I want to go on being me once my eulogy’s been read
Don’t spread my ashes out to sea don’t lay me down to rest
You can put my mind at ease if you fill my last request
Prop me up beside the jukebox if I die
Lord I want to go to heaven but I don’t want to go tonight
Fill my boots up with sand put a stiff drink in my hand
Prop me up beside the jukebox if I die
Just let my headstone be a neon sign
Just let it burn in mem’ry of all of my good times
Fix me up with a mannequin just remember I like blondes
I’ll be the life of the party even when I’m dead and gone
Prop me up…

Biden was not selected to get rid of Trump. That job was done by crooked politicians, drop boxes and 2000 mules. Biden was selected as a front-puppet for the DSoA socialist party that hijacked the Democrat party, the election and the government of our republic, bringing about the most shameful, embarrassing period in our nation’s history, which we are surviving , as we speak.

“Biden” will run. Notice that “Biden” isn’t going back to his Delaware basement much and taking longer and longer trips abroad. Either his cocktail is really tuned to perfection or that “he” isn’t the original.

Lybrarious Booker | May 29, 2022 at 11:25 am

In 2024, Trump will win and bring us another 4 years of egotistical chaos – and give democrats the chance to claw their way back into power.

Or, we can usher in 8 years of DeSantis and drive a stake through the heart of the left for a generation.

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