COVID-19 ‘Panic Porn’ is Back and the Media is Loving It
They never want COVID to go away.
The COVID-19 panic porn is back in full mode thanks to the White House and the media, their partners in crime.
That’s why it’s hilarious when President Joe Biden’s COVID response team member Ben Wakana lectures the media for burying the lede.
Super interesting: the WH's COVID response official, @benwakana46, is vocally slamming both the NYT and the WashPost over the last two hours for alarmism and sensationalism about the danger of the Delta variant for vaccinated people and their propensity to spread the virus: pic.twitter.com/U0FRxjqtfa
— Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) July 30, 2021
The White House is telling vaccinated people to go back to wearing masks but is ALL CAPS FURIOUS about many in the media not providing the proper context about low viral transmission rates among vaccinated people.🤷♂️
— Jerry Dunleavy (@JerryDunleavy) July 30, 2021
NBC News reported that 125,000 fully vaccinated Americans tested positive for COVID-19.
The headline is irresponsible.
A responsible headline would read: 99.93% of fully vaccinated Americans have not tested positive. The COVID vaccine works. https://t.co/BkZpP2q7rd
— Rep. Peter Meijer (@RepMeijer) July 30, 2021
Fewer than .01%, champ https://t.co/Zq4G5rDj0I
— Sean Agnew (@seanagnew) July 30, 2021
buried lede is that 125,682 cases out of 164.2 million fully vaccinated individuals means a rate of less than 0.08%.
at this juncture, this is pure COVID fear porn. https://t.co/2P2rUkKj2U pic.twitter.com/lH60wlFYJd
— Siraj Hashmi (@SirajAHashmi) July 30, 2021
So, these COVID alarmist douchebags are not only *psychotic,* they’re also *psychic.*🔻 https://t.co/H8DdBEPztc
— Kyle Becker (@kylenabecker) July 30, 2021
Can we all just agree that this is fucking bullshit at this point? Now we have the “super mutant variant” and they’re never gonna let this fucking thing end until we make them end it. https://t.co/Rkvbw1cQRb
— Amy Curtis (@RantyAmyCurtis) July 30, 2021
The media is disgusting. It will never end.
We have GOT to stop testing people with no symptoms. This is just provoking more panic porn. https://t.co/A8zFkPD6ph
— The Gay Conchservative (@BCinKW) July 30, 2021
Why can’t we say the death rate out loud? I feel like I’m taking crazy pills! Yeah, the cases are surging but the deaths aren’t. Show the death rate you panic porn pushing asshats! I know it doesn’t fit your narrative but it’s your GD job. https://t.co/Q44RQg9iNr
— Prison Mitch (@MidnightMitch) July 30, 2021
AHH! WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE IF WE DON'T FORCE VACCINES INTO EVERYONE NOW! AHH –
Monthly Covid deaths in the US, July 2020: 31,000
Monthly Covid deaths in the US, July 2021: Under 10,000
Number of times Apoorva has written panic porn since March 2020: 327https://t.co/oeS2TnMypT
— Alex Berenson (@AlexBerenson) July 26, 2021
Looks like somebody had a book to promote when she was dishing out the XXX panic porn on @CNN! Don’t worry, doc, nobody’s judging, defs not me! https://t.co/inAivrVEoX
— Alex Berenson (@AlexBerenson) July 28, 2021
Of course she does so she can justify masking everyone up. This was such a huge mistake and she knows it. https://t.co/91FyTGvANN
— The🐰FOO (@PolitiBunny) July 30, 2021
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They have to replace Trump with something to keep the viewership up.
The media may ‘love it’, but not enough people are paying attention to them anymore.
The minute they stopped talking about deaths the ‘pandemic’, such as it was, was over.
All of their bullshit is based on ‘cases’.
And way, WAY too many RINO governors are still going along with this crap.
Line up behind DeSantis and send a clear message – we are THROUGH with your bullshit.
‘Cases’ produced by PCR testing of asymptomatic people that produces many, many false positives.
PCR testing the CDC officially abandoned just a few days ago.
But not until December 2021
It has to continue to run false positives for them
What? I thought sure they would keep running it until 01 October 2022.
JHogan: PCR testing the CDC officially abandoned just a few days ago.
Uh, no. PCR testing is still the gold-standard test. Rather, for greater efficiency, as as the flu season approaches, they are recommending moving towards a PCR test that tests for strains of influenza and strains of COVID.
https://www.factcheck.org/2021/07/scicheck-viral-posts-misrepresent-cdc-announcement-on-covid-19-pcr-test/
Per the CDC…. The number of flu deaths reported for the 2020/2021 flu season were “dramatically fewer… compared with previous flu seasons”. They don’t really know why.
A test that cannot definitively differentiate Covid from flu could easily produce millions of false positive Covid ‘cases’. And result in flu deaths recorded as deaths from Covid.
Hence, the CDC will start using a new test that can differentiate Covid from flu.
The PCR test is NOT the “gold-standard test.” In fact, it was never developed or intended to detect infection. and is, in fact being phased out as per CDC guidance. They are NOT recommending moving towards a PCR test that tests for strains of either the flu or COVID.
As per the CDC release: “In preparation for this change, CDC recommends clinical laboratories and testing sites that have been using the CDC 2019-nCoV RT-PCR assay select and begin their transition to another FDA-authorized COVID-19 test.”
The list of authorized COVID-19 diagnostic methods and tests to detect COVID may be found here:: https://www.fda.gov/medical-devices/coronavirus-disease-2019-covid-19-emergency-use-authorizations-medical-devices/in-vitro-diagnostics-euas?ACSTrackingID=USCDC_2146-DM61940&ACSTrackingLabel=Lab%20Alert%3A%20Changes%20to%20CDC%20RT-PCR%20for%20SARS-CoV-2%20Testing&deliveryName=USCDC_2146-DM61940
These are antibody and antigen based test. The PCR test is being rightfully abandoned. It is a rather meaningless test. It was adopted because there were not good or reliable antibody or antigen test available, initially. It has been maintained as a test, despite its very many flaws, for too long.
Brave Sir Robbin: As per the CDC release: “In preparation for this change, CDC recommends clinical laboratories and testing sites that have been using the CDC 2019-nCoV RT-PCR assay select and begin their transition to another FDA-authorized COVID-19 test.”
Uh, it refers to the CDC 2019 test. That is what is being phased out.
Brave Sir Robbin: The list of authorized COVID-19 diagnostic methods and tests to detect COVID may be found here
Which includes PCR testing under molecular diagnostic tests, many of which were granted EUA updates in July 2021.
In the 246 breakthrough cases on Cape Cod, there were only 4 hospitalizations and no deaths. So this particular outbreak revealed a case fatality rate of exactly zero, which is better than the non-zero rate for seasonal flu. And this is a problem.
I am also concerned that I’ve seen no mention of the other 123 non-vaxxed people that were also infected in Barnstable County. You know damn well that if their hospitalization rate had been greater than that of the vaxxed people, we would have heard about it. I’m betting that their overall outcome was as good or better than that of the vaxxed people. But that wouldn’t fit the narrative and would hurt the agenda, so it goes unmentioned.
DaveGinOly: You know damn well that if their hospitalization rate had been greater than that of the vaxxed people, we would have heard about it.
The two week death count in Barnstable County is 11.
https://www.barnstablecountyhealth.org/case-numbers-and-figures
“A responsible headline would read: 99.93% of fully vaccinated Americans have not tested positive. The COVID vaccine works.”
Actually, before you can conclude that, you also have to provide the percentage of non-vaccinated Americans who have not tested positive.
I’m so over being hectored to “follow the science” by people who have no understanding of science… or math… or logic.
Yes, they mischaractize the population and probability of each set. Disease progression and viability in a highly resistant (e.g. immune) population has a conditional risk. Ineffectiveness and side-effects from the vaccine have an absolute and unknown risk for candidates and especially when administered to the general population.
So, here’s the thing – the “vaccine” does not confer immunity. It simply suppresses symptoms. It is a therapy, not a an immunization. It has created a vast cadre of asymptomatic carriers who are spreading it among themselves and the unvaccinated.
When an unvaccinated person is infected, they fell bad, and stay home, an reduce transmission. But a “vaccinated” person becomes just as infected, but the symptoms are generally very mild – hardly noticeable. So the “vaccinated” and infected go about their daily business and spread the virus to other “vaccinated” persons and the “unvaccinated.”
This is why the CDC wants an abnormally high rate of “vaccine” intake, because they cannot stop transmission, only serious symptoms – for now.
They have been lying to you. It is not a “vaccine.” It is a therapeutic that reduces symptoms. This is why everyone has to go back to social distancing, masker wearing (totally useless from an medical perspective) and likely lockdowns.
On a positive note, as the virus spreads through the population, real immunity will be derived. However, there are risks with this mRNA therapeutic. It is not highly likely, but things could go very wrong. People have been trying to warn the world – and they have been censured.
People at high risk should take the “vaccine.” If you are obese and/or over 70. Otherwise, people should NOT take this “vaccine.” It is a an experimental drug. It confers not benefit to people not at risk to this virus, and should not be administered to such people. .
It is a vaccine. With coronaviruses, preventing infection is impossible. Coronaviruses can reinfect the same host again and again, and this one is loaded up with more sophisticated tricks than the common cold varieties. The vaccine primes your immune system to recognize the virus quickly enough so your immune system can wipe it out before it gets out of control and produces severe disease.
A vaccine stops you from getting it…a therapeutic works to reduce and lesson symptoms…its a theurapeutic
Cat,
Well is it a vaccine like say smallpox? That vax was so successful that it has practically eradicated smallpox.
This vax isn’t really what we traditionally consider a vaccine nor was it developed in a traditional manner. The legal basis for vax is based on traditional vax, with high effective rates like smallpox vax.
IMO, the legal basis for a mandatory Rona vax is much less clear than for smallpox. Now that’s a separate issue from a personal choice to become vaccinated or whether it should be recommended.
I’ve had many medical professionals, a couple of them family members, who urged me and The Bride to get vaccinated. So we did. No insult intended, but I’ll take their word more seriously than an anonymous poster in a comment section.
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And I will take the strong advice of the guy…Dr. Robert Malone…who developed the mRNA technology and not take it…. especially since I already had it (thought I had a cold one weekend) and despite what the “experts” are now peddling…. natural immunity is better and that has been the actual science for 40 plus years.
caseoftheblues: Dr. Robert Malone…who developed the mRNA technology
Uh, the ground work for mRNA technology was laid by Katalin Karikó.
caseoftheblues: natural immunity is better and that has been the actual science for 40 plus years.
Odd you should say that. It was 40 years ago that smallpox was certified extinct.
Natural immunity
Vaccine immunity
I totally agree. Never take the word from a stranger on the internet. But please look at things skeptically. I know a lot of people with very good credentials who do not think they should take the “vaccine.” For the record, I have taken it. I am in a high risk group.
I do not think anyone should be taking any sort of drug if it is not indicated or will no incur any benefit. This includes aspirin.
“Medical professionals” are no more immune to groupthink and deception than any other class.
Throughout the ’80s and ’90s, “medical professionals” urged Americans to combat obesity by reducing fats instead of carbs. Why? Because the subsidized sugar and grain producers had an existential economic interest in not seeing carbs targeted.
A mere half dozen major food groups to throw a dart at, and the entire medical establishment bullesyed the wrong one… because of overt and covert government pressure. Not a record to be proud of.
Speaking of which, Fauci is a “medical professional…” isn’t he? From month to month, he routinely contradicts his own advice. If you choose to follow him, get comfortable with the feeling that you’ve already walked through this particular patch of woods.
“caseoftheblues: Dr. Robert Malone…who developed the mRNA technology
Uh, the ground work for mRNA technology was laid by Katalin Karikó.”
Uh, Dr. Malone, while working at the Salk Institute, was working on this technology a full 10 years before Katalin Kanko.
It is true that Kariko is more responsible for the creation of the Pfizer vaccine. Her work prior was more concentrated in mRNA based gene therapies, particularly in the realm of cancer treatments. She is no slouch, but Malone preceded her in this bio-technology area by about a decade and was a true front runner in the area.
henrybowman: “Medical professionals” are no more immune to groupthink and deception than any other class.
Experts can be wrong. But a consensus of experts in a valid field of study are more likely to be right about matters within their field of expertise than non-experts. If you confer with three independent oncologists, and they agree you have cancer, then it would behoove you to plan your next steps.
henrybowman: Speaking of which, Fauci is a “medical professional…” isn’t he? From month to month, he routinely contradicts his own advice.
“When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?”
Zachriel the marxist will always lie:
“Dr. Malone is the discoverer of in-vitro and in-vivo RNA transfection and the inventor of mRNA vaccines, while he was at the Salk Institute in 1988.
His research was continued at Vical in 1989, where the first in-vivo mammalian experiments were designed by him. The mRNA, constructs, reagents were developed at the Salk institute and Vical by Dr. Malone.
The initial patent disclosures were written by Dr. Malone in 1988-1989.
Dr. Malone was also an inventor of DNA vaccines in 1988 and 1989.
This work results in over 10 patents and numerous publications, yielding about 7000 citations for this work.
Dr. Malone was also an inventor of DNA vaccines in 1988 and 1989. “
Brave Sir Robbin: It is true that Kariko is more responsible for the creation of the Pfizer vaccine.
We concede your point.
“This is why everyone has to go back to social distancing, masker wearing (totally useless from an medical perspective) and likely lockdowns. ”
In which case they are delaying the inevitable “herd immunity”, which is, admittedly, much more difficult with this virus because of its ability to reinfect people who have already had it. But eventually everyone will be carriers and virtually nobody will become ill (other than those who have significant health issues without the Wuhan ChiCom Flu). As it is we allegedly have many people testing positive for reinfection, yet moderate to little increase in hospitalizations with nearly no increase in deaths in most areas. We are getting there.
Edward: As it is we allegedly have many people testing positive for reinfection, yet moderate to little increase in hospitalizations with nearly no increase in deaths in most areas.
Currently, the 7-day average is 76000 new cases per day and 318 deaths per day, with upward trajectories. This represents a case mortality rate of about 0.4%. Keep in mind that deaths lag cases by a few weeks, so the case mortality rate can be expected to increase.
Brave Sir Robbin: So, here’s the thing – the “vaccine” does not confer immunity.
The vaccines provide up to 95% protection from COVID-19, the disease caused by the SARS-CoV-2 virus. They also provide protection against infection generally:
Two studies from Israel, posted as preprints on 16 July, find that two doses of the vaccine made by pharmaceutical company Pfizer, based in New York City, and biotechnology company BioNTech, based in Mainz, Germany, are 81% effective at preventing SARS-CoV-2 infections. And vaccinated people who do get infected are up to 78% less likely to spread the virus to household members than are unvaccinated people. Overall, this adds up to very high protection against transmission, say researchers.
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02054-z
The Nature article is reassuring, but at variance with what the government is presenting which is that “vaccinated” persons are a hazard to each other and also to the unvaccinated, and must thus social distance and mask. If the vaccines were effective, this would not be necessary.
You cannot have it both ways – the “vaccines” are highly effective AND everyone must social distance, wear masks, etc., etc..
COVID is very likely endemic now. Eradication will not happen. The mRNA technology is novel in human and even animal use. It should be focused on people with high risk to the disease where there is clear benefit over risk. This is the common prescription for all drugs, medications, vaccines, etc. It should not be a controversial statement.
Brave Sir Robbin: The Nature article is reassuring, but at variance with what the government is presenting which is that “vaccinated” persons are a hazard to each other and also to the unvaccinated, and must thus social distance and mask.
As the data shows, even vaccinated persons can be at risk, and they should minimize exposure in areas where the virus is prevalent.
Brave Sir Robbin: You cannot have it both ways – the “vaccines” are highly effective AND everyone must social distance, wear masks, etc., etc..
The world—and vaccine protection—are not black and white.
Brave Sir Robbin: It should be focused on people with high risk to the disease where there is clear benefit over risk.
Vaccines are very low risk. COVID is infectious, so what you do affects others.
Vaccine are not therapeutics. No vaccine is. And no therapeutic is a vaccine.
A therapeutic, like Ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine, is used to combat a disease directly (by blocking a vital metabolic pathway in the disease agent’s life cycle, or killing the disease agent outright). A vaccine does not act directly upon the disease agent. It prepares the body’s immune system to defeat the disease. There is a difference. Ivermectin and hydroxy can be, and vaccines always are, prophylactics – taken before illness to make it difficult or impossible for a disease to cause illness. But only Ivermectin and hydroxy can be taken as treatment after becoming ill with COVID. Once you become ill, a vaccine won’t help and will not be administered – proving that a vaccine is not a therapeutic. A therapeutic is always administered after a person becomes ill, and it always works directly against the disease agent. (Just as Ivermectin and hydroxy become therapeutics when administered in response to an infection, rather than as prophylactics used before an infection.) Vaccines never work directly against a disease agent, and are therefore not therapeutics.
From the study of the Provincetown outbreak on Cape Cod that led to the new masking requirements:
“… demographics of cases likely reflect those of attendees at the public gatherings, as events were marketed to adult male participants …”
What sort of June/July events in Cape Cod are marketed primarily to adult males?
Has the unrestricted rutting of homosexuals brought on another outbreak?
“What sort of June/July events in Cape Cod are marketed primarily to adult males?”
“Bear Week.” (See comments for reference.)
The article provides another great example of how our “medical professionals” don’t even understand their own statistics, and end up misrepresenting them to others.
Wow…you are either an award winning sheep OR someone really really invested in making people comply with taking the bioweapon aka the vaccine….which is it
So here we are, at roughly HALF of the daily deaths nation-wide than when they removed all of the guidance and mandates. There is no science or data that justifies what the pedophile-in-chief is doing.
Sure there is, an almost legible “study report” from India which allegedly is actually three different reports sort of put together and involving “vaccines” not in use in the US (IIRC) and too small sample groups. A peer reviewed study report which was rejected and a couple more reports which have yet to be published (pre-publication copies) and thus are yet to be peer reviewed. This is the evidence (science and data) that the CDC is “relying upon” for the decisions being made. Oh, and apparently whatever the White House/Naval Observatory orders them to do.
Oh, sorry. You said “justifies”. My mistake.
Who needs data or evidence when you’ve got a Magic 8 Ball?
Ask again later.
Which, come to think of it, is the secret to understanding any action of the Biden Adm*n*strat*on.
The only Covid panic-porn ‘news’ the Regime supporting Dem-media complex won’t ‘report’ on is the flood of infected and/or unvaccinated illegal aliens coming across the southern border. People who are then released to travel at will throughout the country without being tested or vaccinated.
There are non-Regime approved reports the Regime has even released some newly arrived illegal aliens who tested positive.
And, there non-Regime approved reports the Regime is transporting newly arrived illegal aliens throughout the country.
It’s almost as if The Regime wants the Delta variant to spread as far and wide as fast as possible throughout the country.
They also aren’t reporting the horde of vaccine hospitalizations my healthcare friends talk about. They did accidentally report that the vaccinated are driving the new hospitalization numbers, but I doubt they make that mistake again.
BTW, Sweden seems to be doing just fine.
Never had mask mandates. Never locked down. Relatively little vaccination. Very few new cases. Almost no deaths.
All evidence indicates they have achieved natural herd immunity.
Florida’s doing damn good, too.
Florida is doing ok so far, but I question whether the big retailers like Publix, Home Depot, and the like will resist implementing this new CDC “guidance”.
I already have to wear a damn useless mask every time I visit a doctor, enter a hospital, or enter any government building.
What an amazing coincidence. Have you noticed that they are exactly the same places where you have to take your carry pistol off?
TheFineReport: Florida’s doing damn good, too.
Florida is about the middle of the pack for overall rate of death at 1814 deaths per million. However, it is now leading in cases and deaths per day.
Ah a leftist Covid ghoul…bet you’re all tingly
JHogan: Sweden seems to be doing just fine . . . Almost no deaths.
Country, deaths per million
Sweden, 1438
Norway, 146
U.S., 1889
Sweden’s King Carl XVI Gustaf: “We have failed.”
62% of Sweden’s population has received at least one dose of the vaccine.
Comparing Sweden to Norway is like comparing Vermont to Massachusetts.
States, deaths per million
Massachusetts, 2623
Vermont, 417
Only 27% of Sweden’s population is fully vaccinated.
Covid deaths in Sweden
Jul 31: 0
Jul 30: 0
Jul 29: 0
Jul 28: 0
Jul 27: 0
Jul 26: 0
Jul 25: 0
Jul 24: 1
Jul 23: 0
Jul 22: 0
Jul 21: 0
Jul 20: 0
Jul 19: 0
Jul 18: 0
Jul 17: 0
Jul 16: 1
JHogan: Comparing Sweden to Norway is like comparing Vermont to Massachusetts.
It can be difficult to compare different areas, but Massachusetts is much more densely populated than Vermont, while Sweden and Norway are more comparable.
See Kasson & Kamerlin, Managing Coronavirus Disease 2019 Spread With Voluntary Public Health Measures: Sweden as a Case Study for Pandemic Control, Clinical Infectious Diseases, July 2021: “The Swedish COVID-19 strategy has thus far yielded a striking result: mild mandates overlaid with voluntary measures can achieve results highly similar to late-onset stringent mandates. However, this policy causes more healthcare demand and more deaths than early stringent control and depends on continued public will.”
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1102257/cumulative-coronavirus-cases-in-the-nordics/
JHogan: Only 27% of Sweden’s population is fully vaccinated.
As of 7/29/2021, 50.3 percent are fully vaccinated, 77.7 percent have received at least one shot.
https://www.thelocal.se/20210729/more-than-half-swedens-adult-population-is-now-fully-vaccinated-against-covid-19/
It is of note the way in which marxists spread their evil lies. You can only count on one thing from zacriel the marxist, everything he types is a lie, either by commission or omission.
Sorry, I’ve already stopped listening.
Case # up. Ok in what context? Rising case count as in 2020 without a vax? Nope. Higher case count than in 2020? Nope. Higher deaths than 2020? Nope.
Case # may be somewhat useful to indicate the depth and breadth of spread…..as long as we are testing everyone weekly. We don’t do that. The weekly case count is a reflection of the number of people tested at this point. It’s utility is limited.
Hospitalized # and deaths are a much better indicator of the situation. To flesh out those we need more data. Were those people vax? If not had they recovered from Rona?
Those two pieces of data fill in a lot of blank space.
Now how many hospitalized or died with:
Obesity? Heart condition? Diabetes? Poor immune system? Frail elderly? Age?
Add those pieces and now we can see exactly what risk profiles are most susceptible to bad outcomes from Rona.
Why don’t we have that data in a very public, easily accessible manner? Could it be that Rona isn’t right now nearly as severe a problem as the administration is making it out to be?
The tension here is between Rona super severe (teacher unions) and Rona not so bad (open border agenda). Both can’t be simultaneously true.
So either Rona is so bad that kids need masks; which means that the open border agenda is a public health risk.
OR
Rona not so bad after all and kids can go to school in person this fall mask less; while open borders isn’t creating a public health risk via Rona.
Big time politics has big time choices and those choices have consequences. Which is it Mr President?
Problem is, the southern border situation is being kept out of the media so either most people aren’t going to correlate it with the spread of Covid or deny there is a correlation (there are people who honestly believe there isn’t one and anyone who says to the contrary is making stuff up).
Probably true, though I imagine that the coming lawsuits about proposed vax mandates will certainly place the open border agenda and it’s implications for public health front and center.
If Rona is super scary requiring drastic measures then the administration must consistently demonstrate that across the board in order to sustain their basis for acting in the name of public health. Deviations or exceptions for open borders or union carve outs vastly undercut that position. IMO
Chief…nailing it as always👍
The CDC and the White House have seriously botched things this week, and the media is helping along. How many people who are trying to enjoy the summer are throwing up their hands and saying, “Make up your minds already!?!?!” I can’t imagine how well it would go over if in a week or two the CDC suggested another 15-day lockdown.
Where I live, on social media the automatic response is that we’re in this situation because of those anti-vaxxing right-wing Trump supporters who listen to talk radio. Funny thing is, where I live leans very heavily Democrat and many of the people who are refusing the jab are Blacks and Hispanics; it’s safe to say many of them wouldn’t fit that mold.
Same here in SC.
A higher percentage of black and hispanics are unvaxxed than white.
….it must be due to our “white privilege”…..LOL!
Shhhhsssh! That doesn’t fit the narrative that the unvaxxed (read: Trump supporters) are now the problem.
the “vaccine roll-out may even speed up mutant strain’s emergence.”
To go with what CNN tweeted out earlier- Vaccination alone won’t stop the rise of variants and in fact could push the evolution of strains that evade their protection, researchers warned.
Exactly as foretold by the prophets, er, as foretold by anyone who knew anything about animal studies with similar type vaccines- which is WHY they’re not used on animals.
From a very conspiracy minded blog today that I peruse on a regular basis- because it has useful information from time to time: The problem of Antibody Dependent Enhancement causing breakthrough infections predicted by the mRNA critics more than one year ago has come to pass. And, I recall reading about it a year ago. The case increase in the mostly vaccinated country of Israel appears to be just that- ADE.
It’s becoming more and more evident that the effectiveness of “The Jab” wanes rapidly. Whereas antibody effectiveness from actually getting the dreaded covid doesn’t.
And- any actual medicines that might possibly be effective against the dreaded covid are not only not being researched, not only not being ignored, but are being actively suppressed by the government and all social platforms.
In many cases, mentioning the covid 19 protocols published by the Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance will ensure your comment is deleted, and on social platforms, will result in the banhammer.
Heck, we’ve known since the beginning of the covidiocy that low Vitamin D blood levels results in worse outcomes, and the health authorities aren’t even recommending taking Vitamin D supplements and are, in fact, warning against them. With studies scientifically designed to show they’re useless. You need to take a small amount every day, not a one time 50,000 IU dose the day you feel sick. IIRC, that’s the big study they use to say Vitamin D is useless. Not going to bother looking it up. Like the HCQ study done by the VA- giving it to obese patients after they’re already on respirators- “Hey, look! It doesn’t work!” Which every proponent of HCQ would tell them if used in that manner.
Since the governement suppresses and outright lies about successful treatments, and not only fails to recommend supplements known to be beneficial but actively dissuades there use, one just might get the idea it is a great scam used to benefit the marxists in power.
Ya think?
gospace: Exactly as foretold by the prophets
See Darwin & Wallace, On the tendency of species to form varieties; and on the perpetuation of varieties and species by natural selection, Journal of the Proceedings of the Linnean Society 1858.
gospace: It’s becoming more and more evident that the effectiveness of “The Jab” wanes rapidly. Whereas antibody effectiveness from actually getting the dreaded covid doesn’t.
That is probably not correct. See Greaney et al., Antibodies elicited by mRNA-1273 vaccination bind more broadly to the receptor binding domain than do those from SARS-CoV-2 infection, Science Translational Medicine June 2021: “greater binding breadth means that single RBD mutations have less impact on neutralization by vaccine sera compared to convalescent sera.”
In addition, natural infection can lead to severe side effects and even death.
Make sure you get vaxxed, Emperor Ming. Six or seven times, just to be safe.
I would say that the growing number of health authorities who say you ARE going to NEED a booster shot disagree with your assessment. If the wonderful fully effective super safe mRNA vaccine doesn’t wane- it doesn’t need a booster. Health authorities worldwide are talking about the vaccine needing a booster. There’s what you say Zachriel , then there’s Reality 101. You sound just like the sock puppet on another blog who had the dreaded covid then the vaccine, and announced the vaccine was 100X better then natural immunity, and he should know- he’s had BOTH!
And it appears that the vaccine itself can lead to severe side effects, including death. Especially among those who’ve recently had the dreaded covid before the vaccine. 8 people of my 9 person workgroup have had the vaccine. One had a heart attack 2 weeks after the second shot. I know, pure coincidence, right? Another heart palpitations the day after the first shot- hasn’t had the second. Waiting on tests ordered by his new cardiologist- he didn’t used to have one. Pure coincidence again? Anecdotes, not data, but there’s a lot of similar anecdotes, to the point they make up data. A friend of one of my sons lost her 40 something husband within 24 hours of the jab. Heart attack. Complete with foaming at the mouth, which is an unusual symptom, but is a heart attack symptom.
My one coworker seeing his new doctor said “You know, I’m thinking of going in for the second shot, and asking the doctor to just shoot it into the vase with a plant.” The doctor replied “If I had my own practice, I’d do that for you.” Half the doctors where I work haven’t had the jab. And there’s heavy pressure for everyone to get it… Lots of health professionals among my in-laws. A lot of skepticism about the vaccine.
gospace: I would say that the growing number of health authorities who say you ARE going to NEED a booster shot disagree with your assessment.
That does not follow. That a booster shot may increase immunity does not indicate whether natural immunity wanes more slowly.
gospace: If the wonderful fully effective super safe mRNA vaccine doesn’t wane- it doesn’t need a booster.
You seem to be conflating two different phenomena: how immunity wanes, and how viruses evolve. While the data is still coming in, it appears that vaccine immunity wanes slowly over months if not years. However, the virus is also evolving, reducing the effectiveness of the vaccine (and probably natural immunity as well). There is some evidence that a booster shot may provide additional protection against the known variants.
gospace: And it appears that the vaccine itself can lead to severe side effects, including death.
We’d be happy to look at the data. Please provide a citation.
Educate yourself as to what is really going on…you are either clueless or complicit…
But the vaccines do not promote a T-cell response at all, and T-cells are known to be long-lived. So while antibody response may be slightly better due to vaccination, that is only half the story, and possibly the less important half.
Also, other studies have shown natural immune system antibody response is effective against viruses that have considerable differences at their binding sites (up to 20%) compared to the strain to which they were primed. Seeing that binding site differences in SARS-CoV-2 strains vary by less then 1% from the original strain, many experts think that the new strains don’t, and can’t, present difficulties to those with natural immunity (nor to the vaccines, if the vaccines are, in fact, effective against the original strain). This is a long way of saying that all the talk about the danger of the different strains is pandemic porn. The science is saying otherwise.
DaveGinOly: vaccines do not promote a T-cell response at all
See Sahin et al., COVID-19 vaccine BNT162b1 elicits human antibody and TH1 T cell responses, Nature. September 2020.
Also, Widge et al., Durability of Responses after SARS-CoV-2 mRNA-1273 Vaccination, New England Journal of Medicine, December 2020: “Although the memory cellular response to mRNA-1273 is not yet defined, this vaccine elicited primary CD4 type 1 helper T responses 43 days after the first vaccination,2 and studies of vaccine-induced B cells are ongoing.”
Imagine 125,000 cases of measles among kids who have been vaccinated.
How doe we evaluate that? Well From January 1 to December 31, 2019, 1,282* individual cases of measles were confirmed in 31 states. This is the greatest number of cases reported in the U.S. since 1992. The majority of cases were among people who were not vaccinated against measles.
https://www.cdc.gov/measles/cases-outbreaks.html
The COVID-19 vaccines are not up to the standards of US vaccines.
But the mere presence of COVID in your nostrils does not mean you are infected, but that is all the PCR tests show.
Actually, no, it doesn’t even show that. It shows the presence of something: flu, cold, or the scamChinaVirus. It doesn’t discriminate between any of these viruses.
Valerie: The majority of cases were among people who were not vaccinated against measles.
The majority of cases were among people who were not vaccinated against COVID-19.
To the Many Zachs: You are spamming this thread. Do you know that you have posted at least 14 comments to this thread in a single day? Mostly saying the same thing over and over?
You cannot hijack our comment section and antagonize our reader base. Try being more selective in your comments, please, perhaps just selecting two or three (far fewer than 14) to which to respond?
You have to know by now that you aren’t changing a single mind here, so fail to achieve your goal more sparingly, please. (I will say that I appreciate your not–mostly–engaging in ad hominem attacks on our readers.)
Fuzzy Slippers: Try being more selective in your comments, please, perhaps just selecting two or three (far fewer than 14) to which to respond?
We don’t want to “hijack” the thread, but if someone makes a substantive response, especially on a scientific topic where there is substantial amounts of evidence, then we are likely to respond. We appreciate the forbearance.
Hey Fuzzy, y’all censor me for responding to the jerks. Why don’t you just erase the marxist?
It’s nothing more than marxist lies and spam. Easy to see through.
It is spammy, I agree. Avoid name calling, though.
Isn’t that cute? He’s citing the CDC, as if that were a reliable source.
I had a sudden trip to the emergency room today because of the Wuflu – sort of. Developed a severe case of whiplash when the Biden* regime went from saying that vaccinated people posed a danger and needed to mask up again to also saying that infected illegal aliens and “mostly peaceful protests” posed no public health risk.
OW – I think I got hurt again just typing this post!
Vaccinated people are unlikely to participate in the exponential growth of the infection, but sort of ride along with some fraction picking up the virus from the uninfected hordes that have it.
Take the cases in the unvaccinated hordes and multiply by some small fraction and that’s how many vaccinated people have the virus. Sort of a shadow graph, not part of the dynamics.
Ignoring naturally acquired immunity as part of herd immunity allows a much worse picture to be painted. Perhaps rollout widespread free antibody testing and compare the levels from those with that offered by vax?
At a minimum this course answers the questions about naturally acquired immunity and if the data revealed that this had antibody levels below that needed to be effective v potential reinfection then many might be convinced to get the vax.
Assuming of course that the unvax haven’t been irreparably PO by the consistent vilification and attempts to stigmatize them as an evil and irresponsible ‘other’.
Name calling and threatening people isn’t the best sales strategy. They need to be convinced not lectured.
And since we have been relying upon PCR vice antibody testing, we really do not know the actual prevalence of infection and immunity. It seems this would be rather easily obtainable data. It may exist, but I have not seen it.
Not according to data coming out. Seems people who have had The Jab carry a heavier viral load without showing symptoms- and if somebody is carrying a heavy viral load- they’re spreading it. Numbers and examples still being fleshed out- but it doesn’t look good for The Jab proponents. And the further back you’ve had The Jab the more likely you can be infested (not a typo) with a variant.
gospace: Seems people who have had The Jab carry a heavier viral load without showing symptoms-
Studies show that vaccination reduces viral spread. However, vaccination is not 100%, so some will be reinfected and be capable of transmission, though at lower levels and for less time.
“Studies show”
LOL, studies you cite are generally of little value even as toilet paper.
Acshualllyyy..
The vaccinated appear to become a walking petri dish for the development of more transmissable and more “vaccine” resistent strains. …and possibly a higher virus level too for spreading….according to the CDC
Which is what those of us who know anything about mRNA vaccines said would happen.
Got some data for that?
Dathurtz: Got some data for that?
The vaccines provide up to 95% protection from COVID-19, the disease caused by the SARS-CoV-2 virus. They also provide protection against infection generally:
Two studies from Israel, posted as preprints on 16 July, find that two doses of the vaccine made by pharmaceutical company Pfizer, based in New York City, and biotechnology company BioNTech, based in Mainz, Germany, are 81% effective at preventing SARS-CoV-2 infections. And vaccinated people who do get infected are up to 78% less likely to spread the virus to household members than are unvaccinated people. Overall, this adds up to very high protection against transmission, say researchers.
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02054-z
Are the big pharmaceutical companies pushing vaccine? They are making bank if everyone must get them so as they say I’m following the money.
But also the Democrats have gained their power from Covid so they have no reason to see it end.
With ZERO tort liabiltiy.
Legal question…so pharma protected…but are the companies and other entities that force the vaccination in order for you to make a living, buy groceries etc protected?
You wouldn’t think so, but I bet it is for one BS reason or another.
We have no law but the law of the marxists in power. It matters not what the law says, it matters how it is enforced or not.
The news has always been an organizer of anxieties.
They tell you what to worry about, and then put experts on to tell you how to deal with it.
The mistake is always the implicit claim to know what’s important.
I’m not vaccinated and to my knowledge, I’ve never had this ever so aggressive and contagious virus or it’s deadly variants that EVERYONE will get and EVERYONE is spreading (family got it and shrugged it off). I would only know I had it if I were tested soon after getting it.
So of the 50% of the population that isn’t vaccinated- how many are REALLY at risk?
I’m a mask cheater (cheese cloth or none)
I’m a vaccine delayer
I’ve more than likely been exposed a dozen times.
I’ve likely not had it or have been asymptomatic because my immune system works.
But goodness me, there’s a 0.000000002% chance I could die!!!!!
STFU CDC.
I’ve tested negative for antibodies 7 times- Just checked the Red Cross- as of June 25 they’ve stopped testing for antibodies. One son who had symptoms before the PCR test tested negative twice- and had antibodies on a donation. Another son who never had symptoms- tested positive for antibodies. There are two ways to protect yourself- the reactive frightened ninny way of social distancing and masking and eliminating all human contact, or the proactive way of making sure you’re taking the recommended supplements for fighting the dreaded covid. In addition to quercetin, Vitamins D, a multi with an RDA of zinc, and NAC, I practice nasal irrigation daily with xylitol in the rinse mixture. Started that over a decade ago (adding xylitol a more recent thing) and haven’t taken an antihistamine since starting. Fewer colds and lesser symptoms when I get one. Also during the covidiocy I started gargling and rinsing my mouth daily with warm water and xylitol. Because of the covidiocy I went 1.5 years between dentist visits. The dental tech said my teeth were the best she’s seen them since I started at the practice.
Sounds like my regimen. Arm and Hammer saline mist to clean and irrigate, a couple shots of Allerflo (Costco brand of Flonase/Fluticasone). Afrin to keep things open and combat allergies. Same vitaimins and supplements. When I did get Covid last March, it was no worse than a mild cold, with some coughing no different than what I get from PND or GERD. Wife also had it, she doesn’t do my sinus routine, and she had it a bit worse with the coughing. I reckon we still have antibodies, but haven’t tested for them.
I did not participate in the lockdowns, traveled to 9-10 states last year and was tested monthly. To my knowledge I never got it. Some people must natural immunity. I’m not saying that is definitely the case with me or you, maybe we have simply been fortunate, I don’t know. All I know is that I didn’t hide from it and it clearly is not the second coming of the black plague.
We’ve known since the Diamond Princess and the USS Theodore Roosevelt debacle that natural immunity exists. They told us everything we needed to know about the dreaded covid, starting with, no need to panic.
I got it and had medium flu symptoms. Our son who does not live with us got it and had mild flu symptoms. My son who lives with us tested positive but had no symptoms. My wife, who is in contact with all of us, had no symptoms at all and never got tested, but we feel confident she must have gotten it. So yes, there are people this thing doesn’t knock down.
(My wife likes to say that when it comes to medical problems, we’re like the Spratt family: I get all the illnesses, and she gets all the injuries.)
Andy: But goodness me, there’s a 0.000000002% chance I could die!!!!!
The case mortality rate is 1.7%, and the infection mortality rate is about 0.6%, with risk of hospitalization several times that. In addition, even if you don’t have severe effects yourself, you contribute to the risk of others, including those you love.
https://crooksandliars.com/2021/07/daryl-barker-anti-vax
“The case mortality rate is 1.7%…”
No, it’s not. People that are dying and test positive for the scamFauci/ChinaVirus do not die from the virus.
Amazing how the peer reviewed science does not line up with the BS from the White House and Pelosi at all.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34289274/
Because it’s not about science. It’s about finishing the coup perpetrated against our nation in November 2020.
Juris Doctor: Amazing how the peer reviewed science does not line up with the BS from the White House and Pelosi at all.
According to your citation: “With the BNT162b2 {Pfizer} vaccine, the effectiveness of two doses was 93.7% (95% CI, 91.6 to 95.3) among persons with the alpha variant and 88.0% (95% CI, 85.3 to 90.1) among those with the delta variant.” That’s a very significant benefit.
So, the clear rational choice is vaccination.
But the Whitehouse is now saying that people who are “vaccinated” can spread the virus among themselves and to the “unvaccinated” and so vaccinated persons must behave in the same manner as the unvaccinated. So it appears someone is wrong here.
Brave Sir Robbin: But the Whitehouse is now saying that people who are “vaccinated” can spread the virus among themselves and to the “unvaccinated”
The world—and vaccine immunity—is not black and white. Just because you wear a seat belt doesn’t mean you shouldn’t drive carefully.
COVID-19! Alpha Variant!! Gamma Variant!!! Scary, scary Delta Variant!!!!
The whole thing reminds me of how the juvenile geniuses at DC Comics introduced Red Kryptonite to up the ante… followed at increasingly shorter intervals by Blue, Gold, Silver, Black, Orange, Pink, and (I kid you not) Periwinkle Kryptonite… juswt to keep the masses transfixed and buying new pulp.
I’m scheduling a wake-up call with the CDC for when they reach the Pink Variant of COVID (the one that turns you gay). Otherwise, don’t bother me.
Imagine a variant that turns gay people straight?
Imagine the panic.
LOL!
the propaganda machine will say we don’t do fear pron and it’s good we do.
Wait until the unions who are opposing these vaccines mandates get their exemptions like the did with ObamaCare. So far, the postal workers union and SEIU have resisted. I fully expect the police and fireworkers unions will be next. Forget about the teachers unions and Republican House reps who stage their “protests'” in the Senate rather than defying the Pelosi mandates and daring her to have them all arrested.
The fix may be in but will it hold? I doubt it. Everything is set for a spectacular collapse.
Already. The first exemption. Vegans.
https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2021/07/31/vegans-may-be-exempt-from-compulsory-vaccines-protected-belief-law-firm-claims/
Actually, this is great news.
Since Veganism isn’t beholden to any set of ethics laid down by a purported deity, this elevates the status of one’s sincerely-held life philosophy to approach (if not yet equal) the protected first amendment status of “religion.”
This could be advantageously utilized by libertarians; though not so much by constitutional conservatives, as the old problem of having your enemy authorized to interpret the “actual” meaning of your textual protections will never be escaped.
If they jabbed the illegals being transported from the border to the cities BEFORE transporting, that would almost certainly eliminate 90+% of those reported new infections by the non-vaccinated.
These clowns know that we know. But like dictators who have had a taste of power, they just can’t let go. This is why communist dictatorships always begin with crackdowns to purge the large swaths of the population, the inescapable “reign of terror”. This is our “reign of terror”. They are panicking.
If you aren’t familiar with “Critical Clown Theory”, it’s not too late.
https://threadreaderapp.com/user/ConceptualJames
This guy is a very entertaining one-man nuclear bomb that CRT cannot survive. We are living through a clown panic.
Gee. The vaccine is 99.9% effective. Ok, but let’s not forget that living with Covid – without taking a vaccine – is about 99.7% effective. I’ll stick with the “No Vaccine for 1000 Alex”…
I had it. Covid sucks. Even if Covid had a 0.0000% fatality rate, I’d still be telling people to get their shots. It was like being hit by a truck…which then backs up to see what it hit….then drives off to its next victim. Everybody in our house is now fully vaccinated.
The point is, you makes yer own choice and you does what feels best for you. You don’t have it rammed into your arm by some dementia-riddled socialist who has lackeys to wipe his butt.
I’m living proof that an old fart with several major co-morbidities can sail through COVID. Once-size-fits-all medicine is just as totalitarian and tyrannical as one-size-fits-all politics.
Bingo, Henry.
Exactly.
Last night I was in a semi-involuntary conversation (who kept talking despite my ignoring him) with a guy who believed that the virus particles were so small as to not be affected by air currents, therefore they stayed concentrated in doorways that people pass through, while simultaneously, also being stopped by masks. I never knew that physics was so elastic so as to bend appropriately to people’s beliefs. And his wife was an idiot too.
Just say you “identify” as an, how do they call it? “undocumented immigrant” that just came across the southern border. You’ll not only not get hasseled about Covid, you’ll get a free bus or plane ticket.
If the federal government actually believed there was a danger they would close the border. Watch what they do, not what they say.
e pluribus unum: You’ll not only not get hasseled about Covid, you’ll get a free bus or plane ticket.
All immigrants are tested for COVID and offered the vaccine.
Bwahaha, got a source on that absolutely BS statement, Zachs?
Uh huh, the masses of illegals crammed under a bridge or housed in disgusting inhumane conditions in Biden “pods” (because “cages” is a word that is worse than “pods,” polls say) are being tested? Vaccinated? The freaking Biden admin states this is not happening. Why are you contradicting the Biden admin? Are you a wrong-thinker who needs to be dealt with?
What is actually happening is that the Biden admin is trying to control the American population by infesting us with WuFlu from the infected masses of millions crossing our border and being bused and flown to our towns and cities.
NO immigrant is tested and NO immigrant is vaccinated. We have this on tape. We are literally shipping WuFlu and all its variants throughout the U.S. Don’t you ever wonder why?
Fuzzy Slippers: NO immigrant is tested and NO immigrant is vaccinated.
The government is partnering with private and public organizations. For instance,
https://cruxnow.com/church-in-the-usa/2021/07/church-to-governor-in-texas-dont-blame-immigrants-for-covid/
Some immigrants are refusing the vaccine.
https://www.axios.com/ice-immigrants-covid-vaccine-ee9406fe-7d83-4dce-b5be-c158e0d39f81.html