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#GASen: Warnock-Linked Group Under Investigation For Trying To Register Non-Georgia Residents To Vote

#GASen: Warnock-Linked Group Under Investigation For Trying To Register Non-Georgia Residents To Vote

“Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger said one group sent applications to people in New York City. Another tried to register a dead Alabama woman.”

https://youtu.be/J-LK7FQzAxQ

A funny thing happened in Georgia back in the state’s June 2020 primaries: a thousand people “double-voted,” a fact that was not reported by Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger until September.

While he hasn’t expressed much interest in discovering voter and election fraud in the 2020 presidential election, Raffensperger is apparently quite concerned with potential fraud in the upcoming Georgia special election for the state’s two U.S. Senate seats, an election on which hinges control of the Senate.

To that end, he announced Wednesday that there are now investigations into various left-wing groups allegedly working to register non-Georgia (and non-living non-Georgia) residents to vote.

The Atlanta Constitution reports:

Georgia officials say they’re investigating voter registration groups they allege have sent applications to people in other states ahead of the Jan. 5 U.S. Senate runoff election.

Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger said one group sent applications to people in New York City. Another tried to register a dead Alabama woman. Two other groups also sent improper applications, the secretary said.

Groups that were contacted denied the accusations.

It’s unclear whether anything illegal occurred — one of Raffensperger’s top deputies said the issues under investigation could be legitimate or accidental. But the secretary said the state must remain vigilant about potential voter fraud, even as he repeated assurances that claims of widespread fraud in the presidential election were baseless.

“These third-party (registration) groups have a responsibility to not encourage illegal voting,” Raffensperger said at a press conference at the Georgia Capitol. “If they do so, they will be held responsible.”

One of the groups in question was founded by Stacey “the real governor of Georgia” Abrams and was reportedly led until January by Democrat U.S. Senate candidate Rev. Raphael “America must repent for worshiping whiteness” Warnock.

The New York Post reports:

A voter registration group led by Georgia Democratic Senate hopeful Rev. Raphael Warnock until earlier this year is under investigation for allegedly sending ballots to residents in other states, Georgia’s secretary of state announced Monday.

The New Georgia Project, which was founded by failed Peach State gubernatorial candidate Stacey Abrams, was named as one of four voter registration groups under investigation for improper registration activities, Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger said.

Raffensperger, a Republican, said the New Georgia Project — led by Warnock until January, when he announced he would run for the seat held by GOP Sen. Kelly Loeffler — “sent voter registration applications to New York City.”

If the allegations prove true, all I can say is that’s one very big tent Georgia Democrats have. Felonious even.

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A voter registration group led by Georgia Democratic Senate hopeful Rev. Raphael Warnock until earlier this year is under investigation for allegedly sending ballots to residents in other states, Georgia’s secretary of state announced Monday.

Sending what?! This is irresponsible careless writing by the NY Post, which only serves to discredit the rest of the article. It should be !@#$%ing obvious to anyone with an IQ above 100 that it is impossible for a voter registration group to have sent ballots to anyone, in Georgia or anywhere else. Voter registration groups have no access to ballots.

And in fact other reporting of this story, including that cited here in this post, makes it clear that no such ridiculous thing is being alleged. The group is alleged to have sent registration forms to people in other states. That may be legitimate or it may not be, but whatever it is, reporting something that isn’t being alleged and can’t possibly have happened makes the entire allegation look stupid and false, which it isn’t.

    alaskabob in reply to Milhouse. | December 2, 2020 at 8:10 pm

    Can we even entertain that they did get ballots and sent them? Milhouse… it would be called fraud. “Fraud” is the word for the month.

      Milhouse in reply to alaskabob. | December 2, 2020 at 8:12 pm

      No, we cannot entertain such a theory, because it’s impossible. And because the other reports make it clear that this is not even being alleged.

        InEssence in reply to Milhouse. | December 2, 2020 at 10:08 pm

        You have a very peculiar definition of “impossible”. If would happen like this. People in other states request ballots by saying they are residents of the state where they want to vote. The only thing stopping them from getting a ballot would be clean voter rolls. Everyone knows that the said voter rolls are as dirty as some filthy politician can stand. That is why these states are compelled by the courts to clean up their voter rolls, but those court orders don’t mean anything. Maybe they clean up 1% of the dirt. Dirty voter rolls and mail-in ballots make cheating as easy as pie.

          Milhouse in reply to InEssence. | December 2, 2020 at 10:25 pm

          No, you idiot. It’s impossible for these groups to have sent anyone ballots, because they have no access to them. Alaskabob asks us to imagine that they somehow obtained some anyway; there isn’t any way that could have happened.

          InEssence in reply to InEssence. | December 2, 2020 at 11:10 pm

          You write as if your under the impression that there are not extra ballots to go around. Do some reading! LA County, by itself, has 2 million extra ballots and that is be far too conservative. They probably have somewhere around 3.5 million extra ballots. I don’t have numbers on Georgia, but they probably have the same problem. Those ballots get sent to the people who request them. All they need to know, is the names on the dirty ballots. After that, nothing is checked in mail-in ballots. I think your problem is that you assume everyone follows the law.

          Milhouse in reply to InEssence. | December 2, 2020 at 11:36 pm

          Wow, you’re even more of an idiot than I thought. So your scenario is that this organization fraudulently applied for ballots in the names of people who are registered voters but are unlikely to try to vote, and then sent those ballots to people in other states?! For what purpose? Why on earth would anyone want to do such a stupid thing?

          henrybowman in reply to InEssence. | December 2, 2020 at 11:52 pm

          No, you idiot. It’s impossible for these groups to have sent anyone ballots, because they have no access to them. Alaskabob asks us to imagine that they somehow obtained some anyway; there isn’t any way that could have happened.

          I never expected a full-retard argument from you. Criminals have no access to guns in Chicago, either.

          How about that guy taped phoning a Chinese printer on a ballot job? How did he get access to a master? Oh, no, there isn’t any way that could have happened!

          It’s not even possible to keep top-secret national defense material from leaking. Acknowledge it.

          InEssence in reply to InEssence. | December 2, 2020 at 11:54 pm

          I guess I have to take you through the whole process. This is how it was done in Broward County FL and Pennsylvania as was written by whistle blowers in signed affidavits. The 2 main political parties have hundreds of facts on every adult in the USA. They use their databases to find the dirty votes. They set up special runs that are all dirty votes. The ballots are supposed to be mailed, but since all the ballots in that run are dirty, they have someone in a truck pick up 80,000 or so ballots. The ballots are trucked to a voting center, where 30 or so people constantly vote. In Broward County, the voting center was across town. In Pennsylvania the voting center was in New York. After the ballots are completed they are trucked back to the election. The dirty ballots are often held until they are needed which is why Trump had a huge lead. Then the ballots from New York took it away. The guys driving the truck with all the ballots are the groups that you say it is “impossible” for them to have the ballots. It would be, if everyone followed the law.

          Milhouse in reply to InEssence. | December 3, 2020 at 10:05 am

          They use their databases to find the dirty votes. They set up special runs that are all dirty votes.

          Please repeat that in English. You’re using jargon that means nothing to anyone outside your bubble of paranoid conspiracy theorists. What is a “dirty vote” in your jargon, and what is a “special run”? A run of what? Are you talking about forged ballots, that they print themselves rather than obtaining from the election authorities?! In that case there would be no application to match to them. Why would they ship them elsewhere rather than fill them in themselves? And how would they then manage to insert them into the stream of legitimate votes without the election authorities’ cooperation?

          Milhouse in reply to InEssence. | December 3, 2020 at 10:06 am

          You also forget that Georgia’s rolls are fairly clean.

          Milhouse in reply to InEssence. | December 3, 2020 at 10:08 am

          Also, some of your allegations seem very implausible, even if they’re based on “as was written by whistle blowers in signed affidavits”. People do lie, even in “signed affidavits”.

          InEssence in reply to InEssence. | December 3, 2020 at 3:19 pm

          Yeah, everything is a “conspiracy theory” when you are fresh out of facts, as you are in this case. In a mail-in election the entire voter roll is printed. No, the ballots don’t print themselves as you suggest. Yes, the election officials are definitely in on it. How do you suppose that the irregularities of the return envelopes are not noticed. In addition, my story comes from signed affidavits that are backed by election data. Your story is just how you think it ought to be.

        caseoftheblues in reply to Milhouse. | December 3, 2020 at 5:47 am

        Its impossible….haha?
        Someone hasn’t been paying attention…

      JusticeDelivered in reply to alaskabob. | December 2, 2020 at 8:39 pm

      Can we entertain that there has been widespread voter fraud?

      Furthermore, can we anticipate that such is likely to continue?

      Can we consider Warnock hanging upside down from a streetlight?

      Is it reasonable to think that Warnock is a POS?

        Of course there has been widespread fraud. There’s really no reasonable question about that. How widespread, and precisely where it’s occurring, is unclear, and proving it is difficult. But one would have to be blind or a Democrat to deny that it’s happening and it’s common.

        Considering how easy fraud is, it would be astonishing if there weren’t a lot of it happening. And considering how hard Democrats resist any attempt to make it more difficult, it’s clear who’s doing it.

        That Warnock is a POS goes without saying. Stringing him up would of course be a crime, but supposing some gang of evil criminals were to do so, they would have done the world a favor.

        It may even be that Warnock has been personally involved in election fraud. I’m not asserting that he hasn’t been, because I don’t know and I wouldn’t put it past him. But what’s presented here isn’t really evidence. It is worth investigating, though, in case it leads to some evidence. Even if it doesn’t end up leading to any convictions, it may cause some reforms to make fraud a little harder in the future.

    caseoftheblues in reply to Milhouse. | December 3, 2020 at 5:45 am

    That’s cute Milhouse….you still think ballots are these high security items produced only by the state and carefully monitored by the state…adorbs

      Ballots are only ever handed out on an application which is on file, and when they come back they’re matched to that application. Ballots that someone printed up and were never applied for would arrive and…what?

        DaveGinOly in reply to Milhouse. | December 3, 2020 at 11:45 pm

        Milhouse, you were doing well up until:
        “Ballots are only ever handed out on an application which is on file, and when they come back they’re matched to that application. Ballots that someone printed up and were never applied for would arrive and…what?”

        What? They’re delivered in the middle of the night, while no observers are around, dumped in with ordinary mailed-in ballots that have already been separated from their envelopes, and run through a counting machine. That’s what. It’s almost certainly what was done in some instances during this election. Once delivered and co-mingled it becomes impossible to identify bogus ballots by comparing an envelope to an application because that safeguard has been bypassed and permanently defeated.

    This whole thread got started with you accusing the NY Post of irresponsible reporting because of this paragraph.

    “A voter registration group led by Georgia Democratic Senate hopeful Rev. Raphael Warnock until earlier this year is under investigation for allegedly sending ballots to residents in other states, Georgia’s secretary of state announced Monday.”

    But just two paragraphs later the NY Post article said this:

    “Raffensperger, a Republican, said the New Georgia Project — led by Warnock until January, when he announced he would run for the seat held by GOP Sen. Kelly Loeffler — “sent voter registration applications to New York City.”

    Perhaps you might cut the NY Post a little slack for saying ballots when they were clearly referring to voter registrations.

    As you know Stacy Abrams and several activist groups have been encouraging out of state Democrats to rent an AirB&B in Georgia, register, and vote in the Jan. 5, 2021 runoff election. That is a felony if those doing so have no intention of becoming Georgia residents.

    And please don’t call people idiots simply because you disagree with them.

There may be something here, but don’t get too many hopes up.

We’ve all seen voter registration drives. We know how they work. People set up a table somewhere, and encourage passersby to fill in applications. Even if the workers are being 100% honest, they have no way of knowing whether the people filling in the forms are being honest. If someone fills in a form in the name of a dead person, or of someone who’s ineligible to vote, or of someone who’s already registered, the workers have no way to know that.

And not all workers are honest. They’re paid per application they collect, so they have an incentive to “collect” fake applications by filling in information they know to be wrong, expecting them to be rejected. That’s fraud, but it’s not fraud against the state, it’s fraud against the organization that employed them. The organization, which has no way of knowing what they did, pays them and submits the applications to the state, which rejects them as invalid. Or it mistakenly accepts them, and the fake voter never shows up to vote.

To show fraud on the organization’s part you have to have evidence that it knew an application was invalid and submitted it anyway. Or that it knowingly encouraged someone to fill in a fraudulent application. That happens, of course, but it’s not easy to prove; the mere existence of bad applications isn’t nearly enough.

And of course, mailing one or two applications to addresses in NY doesn’t prove anything; mailing dozens or hundreds of applications to NY deserves a serious looking into.

    JusticeDelivered in reply to Milhouse. | December 2, 2020 at 8:40 pm

    I think we are way past the point of giving these people any benefit of doubt.

      Assuming that they’ve committed a crime just because they’re bad people who could and would have done so is all very well, but it’s not evidence. I take it for granted that Democrats cheat at elections because that’s what Democrats do; but proving it takes more than that. This story is about the possibility of actual evidence being discovered. There’s an investigation, it’s got an interesting lead, and it may lead somewhere. We should hope and pray that it does, but not form unrealistic expectations.

        JusticeDelivered in reply to Milhouse. | December 3, 2020 at 2:57 pm

        Dems are operating on China’s Wolf warfare principles. It may well end up as all out war.

        In any event, they have been willing to gleefully break any and all social norms & laws.

        At some point a lawless and final response may be necessary.

Raffensberger needs to go! Take him and Kemp and put them both under house arrest until such time as Georgians can regain control of their electoral process by action of independent audits… if there even is such thing, anymore.

Oh, I know, lets put Durham on the case!

    Milhouse in reply to NotKennedy. | December 2, 2020 at 8:13 pm

    Why don’t we just arrest you instead? There’s as much grounds to arrest you as there is to arrest them.

    Maybe you signed that seditious petition Flynn and Wood are promoting.

Communists are trying to cheat … what a surprise.

Dem Party Activist: “I lie, cheat, steal to win in 2020′

https://www.theepochtimes.com/dem-party-activist-i-will-lie-i-will-cheat-i-will-steal-to-win-2020_3539407.html

Make a choice:

A: American Conservatism, promoted by SOME Republicans and founded on Biblical/Christian principles that have resulted in the greatest country to have ever existed? Or,

B: Democratic Socialism, based on godless Marxism that has resulted in catastrophic failure with over 100 million people murdered by their governments in the 20th century alone, with millions more living in poverty and misery whenever and wherever it’s been tried – except there is no poverty or misery for the ruling elite.

If you picked “A”, realize this is NEVER going to be a vision for America as we know it now. We need to divide the nation. Do it now, while we can do it peacefully. We who chose “A” will be happier than any time in our lives. As for “B” – who cares? Just don’t let them into our new country.

Welcome to the party, Brad. Your actual party.

“ Raffensperger is apparently quite concerned with potential fraud in the upcoming Georgia special election for the state’s two U.S. Senate seats, an election on which hinges control of the Senate.”

Right. Suddenly this GOPe/VichyRepublican is shocked, SHOCKED that there might be some vote fraud going on.

I wonder what this quisling expects to win when Rats steal another election.

Also, some of your allegations seem very implausible, even if they’re based on “as was written by whistle blowers in signed affidavits”. People do lie, even in “signed affidavits”.

    My ‘allegation’ is that there is an investigation; this was announced publicly. I suppose Georgia officials making the announcement could be lying, but doesn’t that seem unlikely?

caseoftheblues | December 3, 2020 at 11:11 am

Sure that’s how ballots are supposed to handled but only someone willfully obtuse still believes that’s what actually went only in this election.