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Liberals Pressure Democrats to Use ICE Removal in 2020 Election

Liberals Pressure Democrats to Use ICE Removal in 2020 Election

Kamala Harris faced criticism after she didn’t call for the abolition of the agency during an interview.

https://youtu.be/eyWhAFjPOBE

The Democrats are desperate, aren’t they? Reports have surfaced the past few days that say liberals have started to pressure Democrats to use the removal of the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency (ICE) as a campaign point for the 2020 election.

The Daily Caller pointed out last Friday the idea came from Brian Fallon, the spokesman for failed Democrat presidential candidate Hillary Clinton’s campaign, back in January.

The prospective campaign talking point really picked up last week after MSNBC host Chris Hayes asked Sen. Kamala Harris (D-CA), someone who has been propped up as a possible 2020 candidate, if America should have ICE. She responded that “ICE has a purpose, ICE has a role, ICE should exist.”

That did not sit well with the left. From Fox News:

“Kamala Harris is very likely running for president in 2020,” Jack Mirkinson of the liberal Splinter website wrote. “It should be a political problem for her that she is not willing to take her criticisms of ICE to their logical conclusion and call for its abolition.”

He added: “She should be asked, over and over again, why exactly she is willing to uphold the legitimacy of such a racist, corrupt, and thuggish organization.”

Mirkinson wrote that other potential candidates — like Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders, New York Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand, Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren and Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti — “should be asked the same question.”

A day after the interview, Hayes tweeted out an article about eliminating ICE:

Sam McElwee, the author, claimed that “[A] mass-deportation strike force is incompatible with democracy and human rights.” He wrote (emphasis mine):

The call to abolish ICE is, above all, a demand for the Democratic Party to begin seriously resisting an unbridled white-supremacist surveillance state that it had a hand in creating. Though the party has moved left on core issues from reproductive rights to single-payer health care, it’s time for progressives to put forward a demand that deportation be taken not as the norm but rather as a disturbing indicator of authoritarianism.

White supremacy can no longer be the center of the immigration debate. Democrats have voted to fully fund ICE with limited fanfare, because in the American immigration discussion, the right-wing position is the center and the left has no voice. There has been disturbing word fatigue around “mass deportation,” and the threat of deportation is so often taken lightly that many have lost the ability to conceptualize what it means. Next to death, being stripped from your home, family, and community is the worst fate that can be inflicted on a human, as many societies practicing banishment have recognized. It’s time to rein in the greatest threat we face: an unaccountable strike force executing a campaign of ethnic cleansing.

Someone hand McElwee a dictionary. To equate ethnic cleansing and deportation is beyond insane because ICE is NOT rounding up people based on their ethnicity and murdering them. White Supremacy? So I guess the legal immigrants that ICE is not touching don’t matter then, eh?

There’s no doubt ICE should face some reforms, but if the Democrats want voters to take them seriously, please do not put deportations on the same level as ethnic cleansing.

ICE Director Tom Homan told Fox News that Democrats have stretched the truth when it comes to his agency, especially after the Oakland mayor tipped off her city that ICE planned some raids. Harris supported the mayor and accused the agency “of potentially abusing its power by going after illegal immigrants who do not pose a public safety threat to the community.” Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) called it “unjust and cruel.

From Fox News:

Homan said Harris’ arguments are factually inaccurate. He said he has invited Harris and Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) to several meetings in recent months to explain the enforcement operations and each time the senators have cancelled.

“Nine out of every 10 aliens we arrested [in the last fiscal year] did have a criminal history. … They don’t want to know the facts. They want to keep playing this political game and put smoke and mirrors up about what ICE is actually doing,” he said on “Fox & Friends.”

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Comments

notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital | March 12, 2018 at 7:15 pm

Hillary and Barry are sure to come flying in soon to make matters more “extreme.”

Just look at Dead-Pan Hillary.

Bitter Hillary Clinton Trashes America’s Heartland, Calls States That Didnt Vote For Her “Backwards”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KKPpjN5PTc

Hat tip to Ace of Spades

…if the Democrats want voters to take them seriously, please do not put deportations on the same level as ethnic cleansing.

Don’t tell’em that.

Hand them another shovel, and tell’em to keep digging.

Funny Maxine P Waters parody account about all those ICE holding cells outside 7/11’s and such.
https://www.f169bbs.com/bbs/discussion/558308-maxine-waters-tweet-calling-ice-holding-cells-inhumane

irishgladiator63 | March 12, 2018 at 8:03 pm

So when “RACIST!!” stopped working and everyone ignored them, they upped the ante to “WHITE SUPREMACISTS!”
Thus, ICE, math, the English language, education, guns, having children, and everything else is now part of white supremacy.
Two questions:
1. What’s the next level after “white supremacists”?
2. What are they going to do when normal people who have been called racist for a few decades are told that so many of the things they hold dear and worked for (indeed their whole way of life) are part of white supremacy and those people start saying “Fine, then I guess I’m a white supremacist”?

Social justice adventures including elective wars, CAIR, anti-nativism progressing, [color] diversity, and Planned Parenthood. Liberalism is diverging.

“Liberals Pressure Democrats to remove ICE” Do it!

Please, use this to win elections in 2020, Dems.

What is going on inside those tiny D’rat brains?

They are running a blatantly anti-gun twit for the Senate in—of all places—Texas; they’re pushing a plan to raise federal taxes and blow obscene amounts of money the government doesn’t even have at infrastructure reliable D’rat donors; and they fantasize about eliminating all vestiges of border control and, while they’re at it, any semblance of law and order in America.

And they seem to think that this stuff will sweep them into office.

Seriously, what the hell are they smoking?

    Rick the Curmudgeon in reply to tom_swift. | March 13, 2018 at 6:42 pm

    Shhhh… “Never interrupt your enemy while they’re making a mistake.” ~~ Some Bonaparte guy.

“ICE operates as an unaccountable deportation force.”

This is an outright lie, and Brian Fallon should be ashamed of himself.

ICE is a part of the executive branch, and its policies are controlled by the voters. The voters decided they did not like the policies of the Democrats, and sought genuine change.

It is interesting to me that, for all the roaring, screaming, and handwaving, one inescapable fact about this election is that the candidate who actually wanted to talk policy was the one elected. It’s almost as if a large section of the electorate turned into policy wonks.

Further, in addition to being directly controlled by the executive branch and indirectly controlled by the voters, ICE is governed by rules established by Congress, and the Courts.

Did I mention that Brian Fallon is an outright liar?

To whom is this message directed? Obviously, it’s directed at illegal voters. Getting rid of ICE will be their incentive to swamp the polls and deliver the Presidency to the Democrats. It won’t take much to deliver states with a ton of them, like Texas and Arizona.

i’m sure this election stratgery will have breathtaking results for the Demonrat party…

however, it may not be the ones they are planning on.

losing argument unless they can continue the voter fraud.

I so hope the Democrats run on abolishing immigration and customs enforcement.

It’s kind of like Beto O’Rourke running against Ted Cruz on a platform that includes banning sales of AR-15s. In Texas.

Keep ICE abolish liberalism!

“There’s no doubt ICE should face some reforms,…”
Shame on you, Mary; you’re already accepting the Socialist-Progressive narrative as truth.
Tell me, what “reforms” would you recommend.

    ConradCA in reply to paracelsus. | March 13, 2018 at 12:16 pm

    Create huge holing camps/prisons in the middle of the south west deserts to behold illegals while they are being processed for deportation including their trials. This would take a minimum of 3 years and 9 years for those who returned after previously being deported.

      rdmdawg in reply to ConradCA. | March 13, 2018 at 12:24 pm

      Wow, excellent suggestion. Treat this extra-judiciously, which is about the only way to do it effectively and sensibly, with the minimum impact on American citizens.

Mary’s repetitious use of the phrase “failed Democrat presidential candidate Hillary Clinton” has me predictably attracted to her. Lol

Mueller is partial to this criminal charge of defrauding the government or a government agency of its honest services. Wouldn’t that criminal charge apply to the Oakland mayor and possibly sanctuary sheriffs. The oakland mayor defrauded ICE and DHS of its honest services

    Milhouse in reply to garybritt. | March 14, 2018 at 9:41 am

    Neither the mayor nor the sheriffs owe any kind of service to the federal government.

      Rick the Curmudgeon in reply to Milhouse. | March 14, 2018 at 12:31 pm

      Another case decided years ago. Can’t remember many of the details but IIRC, the U.S. Government was having county sheriffs running background checks on prospective firearms purchasers.

      But there is a great yawning gap between “owing any kind of service” and “active interference”.

Eliminate our borders, protect illegal aliens even though they cost the country billions of dollars every year, rescind the tax break and create even more taxes for the public to pay, encourage the refusal to enforce or obey federal laws, outlaw the AR-15 pattern rifles as well as other semi-automatic guns, and so forth, is sure to be a powerful platform that will garner all sorts of public support. Not!

So just what is wrong with a strike force to toss out invaders? It’s been done for thousands of years.

harleycowboy | March 14, 2018 at 8:49 am

They have to protect their illegal voters.