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UN: Myanmar Violence Against Rohingya is ‘Textbook’ Ethnic Cleansing

UN: Myanmar Violence Against Rohingya is ‘Textbook’ Ethnic Cleansing

No words to describe this situation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=83&v=YFPmvUmv4qQ

Finally. After months of the Myanmar armed forces killing, raping, and destroying the Muslim minority Rohingya, the United Nations described the violence as “a textbook example of ethnic cleansing.

From Reuters (emphasis mine):

“We have received multiple reports and satellite imagery of security forces and local militia burning Rohingya villages, and consistent accounts of extrajudicial killings, including shooting fleeing civilians,” Zeid said.

“I call on the government to end its current cruel military operation, with accountability for all violations that have occurred, and to reverse the pattern of severe and widespread discrimination against the Rohingya population,” he added.

“The situation seems a textbook example of ethnic cleansing.”

The Conflict

Genocide. It’s not helpful to throw around the g-word, but that’s exactly what is occurring in Myanmar. Making matters worse, the genocide has been met with silence from leader Aung San Suu Kyi, the Nobel Peace prize dissident who captured the hearts of the west and won praise when she became the de facto leader in 2015.

Rohingya Muslims have faced persecution in the Buddhist country for decades. The government does not consider them citizens, thus leaving them stateless. In order to do anything they need permission from the government. They even need permission to have more than two kids. Most of them reside in Rakhine State, located in western Myanmar.

This latest violence outbreak started last October when Rohingya unsuccessfully attacked state security forces after reports emerged “that the military had been deploying an alarming number of troops to the northern part of the state, causing concern among local populations and independent observers — including the U.N. rights rapporteur to Myanmar, Yanghee Lee — that the heightened security measures could further inflame tensions.” It did not end well for the Rohingya. From TIME:

Already poised to retaliate, Myanmar military troops, police and other security forces responded to the attacks with savagery; within days, thousands of Rohingya and other civilians began pouring over the border into Bangladesh claiming their villages had been razed and that Myanmar troops were indiscriminately killing people. Many reportedly arrived with serious injuries. Children as young as seven have been treated at clinics for gunshot wounds.

Those who managed to escape have said that the military have raped women, too.

The Rohingya attacked again on August 25, which caused the military to respond with more violence. Reports have come out that the Myanmar government has placed landmines at the border while refugees have said that officers will just shoot at anyone fleeing. TIME continued:

The recent exodus is just the latest in several waves of mass migration over the past four decades, and by most measures it is the worst. The Myanmar government has said about 400 people died during the renewed conflict; Bangladeshi officials claim the number of dead has exceeded 3,000. Countless others are now at risk of preventable deaths in refugee settlements and remote areas unreachable by humanitarian aid workers. The total number of Rohingya now sheltering in camps in Bangladesh has reached about 700,000, with new arrivals joining the hundreds of thousands who fled violence in previous years. The exact Rohingya population is unknown (the group was excluded from Myanmar’s 2014 census, the country’s first count in more than three decades), but the number of people displaced over the past three weeks alone could represent more than a third of the estimated 1.1 million believed to reside in Myanmar.

Bangladesh

Many Rohingya have escaped to Bangladesh, but have not received a very warm welcome. Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina has called on Myanmar to stop the violence and take back the Rohingya. From The Wall Street Journal:

The Bangladeshi prime minister visited a refugee camp that has absorbed hundreds of thousands of Rohingya refugees and demanded that Myanmar “take steps to take their nationals back.”

“We will not tolerate injustice,” Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina said at a rally Tuesday at the Kutupalong refugee camp, near the border town of Ukhiya in Cox’s Bazar district.

On Monday night, she accused Buddhist-majority Myanmar of committing “atrocities” and said that Bangladesh had long protested the persecution of Rohingya Muslims.

But as I said on Twitter, they go back, they are dead. The Myanmar government has also blocked aid groups from observing the situation or even passing out humanitarian aid.

And while Hasina’s message appears welcoming and promised to keep them until Myanmar takes them back, but Bangladesh is not happy about it. From the BBC:

Rohingya families have been arriving in Bangladesh from Myanmar in waves since the 1970s. About 32,000 registered refugees live in the two official camps, but more than 300,000 undocumented Rohingyas were also estimated to be in Bangladesh before this latest influx.

Bangladesh says their presence strains local resources, increases crime and deters tourists in the Cox’s Bazar area.

Earlier this year, it backed a plan to transfer them to an island in the Bay of Bengal, Thengar Char, but rights groups said the island was unfit for human habitation due to seasonal flooding.

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Textbook elective abortion or self-defense, motivated by character or [color] diversity?

BBC world service round table noted that previous to the October insurgency that Islamic militants had recruited hundreds of fighting age Rohingya males and removed them to train camps in the far north territory. Then, after training was completed, these newly minted Islamic irregulars attacked Rohingya villages and murdered the tribal Muslim elders/ leadership. After having done the murders, the radical Islamists imposed sharia on villagers, and began raiding and attacking Buddhist enclaves and government installations.

Before taking the UN / BBC line about what’s happening in Myanmar, a little bit about the background history is in order.

https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/09/reporting-on-the-rohingya-the-tip-of-a-huge-iceberg-of-misinformation

Mohammedans getting treated just like they treat everyone else? I don’t care. I feel sorry for innocents caught up in all that, but I don’t see any stories about Christians or Hindus being ‘ethnically cleansed’. Muslims are about 4% of the population there. From what I gather “Burma” really is a third-world pest-hole.

Myanmar is choosing who its citizens are. Doesn’t help that the Rohingya sided with Japan when the Rising Sun Empire was hacking prisoners heads off with swords. Or started an insurrection to break away and join East Pakistan (Bangladesh)in the late 40’s. The story just goes downhill from there.

Apparently the leadership of Myanmar has read some history of what happens when one specific political system gets too large in society.

    Juba Doobai! in reply to RedEchos. | September 12, 2017 at 9:09 pm

    I’m waiting to hear the Rohingya condemn this: http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/09/12/pakistani-christian-beaten-death-muslim-classmates-teacher-read-newspaper/.

    Muslims keep on trying to break off pieces of countries until they can take over the whole. Take note, MN, MI.

      C. Lashown in reply to Juba Doobai!. | September 12, 2017 at 10:10 pm

      Strange how everywhere the Rohingya go they face violent death because people don’t want them around – even other Muslims in Bangladesh. If they’re hated in their own country, then what makes Americans (9,000 miles away) consider that it will be better when they immigrate illegally into another country? Their blood is on their own head.

      I have friends who have lived in Myanmar for years and they have no problems with the Buddhists, but these Muslims are unwanted. I wonder why? Oh, and my friends are Christian missionaries helping out poor villages, not stealing anything or acting in an unwholesome manner.

      Most societies, except the wealthy altruistic ones, allow their possessions to be ravaged, along with their daughters. Poverty compels a certain level of common sense, the stupid die.

Jihad Watch has a history of the conflict.
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/03/hugh-fitzgerald-the-rohingyas-aung-san-suu-kyi-and-the-maligning-of-myanmar

It’s been going on for a long time, with massacres by both sides.

Right or wrong, something to keep in mind, is Ethnic Cleansing / creating ethnic based nations after World War I and II worked to keep the peace. Huge movements in the millions after WW2.

There also seems to be outside Jihadists that are attacking Buddhists in Burma / Myanmar. Pakistan and Saudi involvement.

Pakistan seems to be super focused on their own religious cleansing. The amount of non Moslem has fallen tremendously, since the founding of Pakistan. Or what is seen as Non Moslem – Shia and Sufi seem to be in this category currently.
There also seem to have been Christian issues in Burma, that were ignored.

I really am at a loss for words here. I respect Mary and her work but I think she is wrong here.

“No words to describe this situation.”
Southern Thailand
Western China
Bosnia
Nigeria
Kenya
Sweden
France
Germany
England
Indonesia

The exact same pattern. As Muslim populations rise so does the violence.

Completed pattern:
Lebanon
Turkey
Pakistan
Iran
Egypt, et al.

You get the point

    InEssence in reply to RedEchos. | September 13, 2017 at 12:20 am

    Yeah, you are just getting started. The best way to sum it up is the words of one of the revered Muslims of his day, “If one permits an infidel to continue in his role as a corrupter of the earth, the infidel’s moral suffering will be all the worse. If one kills the infidel, and this stops him from perpetrating his misdeeds, his death will be a blessing to him.”, Ruhollah Khomeini.

Buddhists … committing systematic atrocities against Muslims.

If a story like that doesn’t set off the BS detectors, nothing will.

As for me, I’m waiting for the notorious Green Helmet Guy to turn up in some of those photos.

So, do we “like” Myanmar now or do we still call it Burma and complain about them?
I have to say that one’s situation must be fairly dire if one finds relief in Bangladesh.

When the entire global media establishment is pushing the same narrative and then the useful Nobel Peace idiot Malala chimes in, then you know there’s willful misrepresentation and an agenda being pushed. So yeah, I don’t buy this at all.

Burma

To the UN it’s always ethnic cleansing when it’s the Muslims being run off.
Because they began to pull their usual/typical H8-those-not-Muslim baloney in Burma and in turn the main culture decided “not here”. That’s not ethnic cleansing, that’s repelling an invasion.

The Rohingya came from Bangladesh in a bid to expand the reach of Islam. The Burmese don’t want Islam. There’s no cleansing going on here. What’s happening is Buddhists forceful rejection of Muslims efforts at forced conversion of Buddhists.

Rule of thumb: whenever Muslims punch you, punch back 10x as hard.

    The smartest thing they are doing is to limit the Muslims to two children. The goal of Islam is to conquer the world by “the sword of flesh”, to quote ibn Saud, if memory serves. Four wives at a time, have as many children as possible, raise them Muslim (duh) and in two to three generations you own a country. (see: France, England)

    As Mark Steyn notes, the future belongs to those who show up. Europe has stopped having children, so they imported all that “helpful” Muslim “labor” (Is it actually helpful when they arrive and immediately go on public assistance?), and what do they have? The most common baby name in England is Mohammed. Guess who will be running for Parliament in 30 years? All those Mohammeds. Guess how long before Westminster Abbey is converted into a mosque?

As grizzly as it may be, drumming up sympathy for this bunch of muslims because of the treatment they are getting is like stopping the beating of a cobra because of a kind heart only to be struck and killed by his deadly venom. To swoop in and rescue them is only making them available to practice their horrible deadly religion on others. I wish I was not so dead set against a group of humans but their actions throughout the world have led me to this place. We are told of “Good” muslims but all I can decipher from that is that they haven’t killed anyone yet. Look at the rampant antisemitism that did not exist here and throughout Europe 20 years ago that now is an open protest in many liberal colleges and towns. KKK, alt-right, skinheads and white supremacist together do not add up to a small percentage of muslims in this country. Yet we fear and do anything to eradicate them. Under sharia law, muslims harbor almost the exact same biases and beliefs as this sick gang of misfits. Yet one is vilified and the other protected. Why not get rid of all of them?

    C. Lashown in reply to inspectorudy. | September 13, 2017 at 2:45 pm

    re: “Why not get rid of all of them?” ALL is a pretty big word, maybe just thinning down the herd so that they can inhabit Saudi Arabia comfortably…OR

    Pull back their borders to 640 CE., allowing the inhabitants of India, North Africa, Turkey, Asia, etc. to have their lands back. There goes the population explosion out the window!

The contralesional Far-Left BBC & United Nations cannot be trusted and reports by them should be considered tainted. Credible sources are needed to verify any allegations regarding war crimes and genocide.

Genocidal Muslim Invaders (have there ever been any other kind?) are being driven out by the native population that does not want to be exterminated.

Who happen to be Buddhists. How horrific must your behavior be to drive Buddhists to actually go to war?

Naturally, the UN is siding ENTIRELY with the Muslim invaders.

When you stop oppressing Muslims, it gives them room to start oppressing you. Sorry, not sorry.

“…U.N. rights rapporteur to Myanmar, Yanghee Lee…” The “title” of the person in that quote immediately cause me to suspect the source of any allegations which follow.

Isn’t what Myanmar is doing to this muslim group the same thing that our body’s immune system does to an invader? I trust nature more than I do the UN.