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Morning Joe Rips Trump Mex Trip: ‘Flip-Flop, Nonsensical, Sociopath’

Morning Joe Rips Trump Mex Trip: ‘Flip-Flop, Nonsensical, Sociopath’

Can Anyone at Morning Joe Find Something Good to Say About Trip? Nope.

What was your reaction upon waking to the news of Trump’s planned trip to visit the President of Mexico? This Insurrectionist saw it as a bold move that might help him appeal to various voting groups. Morning Joe has been on an anti-Trump riff of late, but even so one anticipated that at least someone on the panel would applaud Trump’s gambit.

Wrong. Across the board, the Morning Joe gang ripped and ridiculed Trump’s trip. Joe Scarborough set the tone, mockingly pointing out that Trump and the Mexican president will be “very excited” since their combined approval ratings will reach 50%. Mika Brzezinski, after emotionally declaring “I’m absolutely done with being emotional about this” said “it’s almost silly to spend too much time analyzing his moves because they’re nonsensical.” Mike Barnicle couldn’t see “what difference this trip makes.” Willie Geist said Trump might be walking into a “trap” in which the Mexican president will seize the occasion to tear Trump down in front of the Mexican people. Donny Deutsch outdid the others, psychoanalyzing Trump: “megalomania, sociopath, detached from reality.” Thank you, Dr. Donny.

Question: Shouldn’t Trump cop some kudos for his “Nixon to China” move?

JOE SCARBOROUGH: Well, I guess it makes sense for both. I mean, they do have one thing in common, their approval ratings are within the margin of error. He said, the Mexican president’s at 23%. Donald Trump at 26%. So, these guys together when they get together they’re going to be very excited because together they’re going to be over 50% for the first time in a long time.

MIKA BRZEZINSKI: They have so much in common.

. . . .

DAVID IGNATIUS: I think in the end, Mexican-American voters are pretty motivated and I’d be surprised if this was the decisive thing that makes them say “oh my gosh, I was wrong! Those terrible things Donald Trump said, I’ve forgotten all about them.”

. . .

MIKE BARNICLE: I don’t know what difference this visit makes!

. . .

JOE: Mika, I’m just curious, what’s your take on this flip-flop?

MIKA: You know, I’m absolutely, I’m, I’m done with being emotional about this. I’m really disappointed in Donald Trump just as a candidate in general. I don’t think that he has proved to mean anything that he says. And I think it’s almost silly to spend too much time analyzing his moves because they’re nonsensical and they’re with no foresight. They’re either made up by somebody else and they’ll get derailed because he won’t understand exactly what his strategists are trying to tell him to do. Or they’re just some strange, last-minute riff on his part. And I think it’s really almost a waste of breath to try to put sense into it.

DONNY DEUTSCH: Joe, can I analyze? I know since Barry Goldwater psychiatrists and psychologists are not allowed to weigh in, and I’m certainly not one. But, yet —

JOE: Uh-oh, uh-oh.

DEUTSCH: — he’s clearly detached from reality. I think he lives in his own world day to day, not understanding that there’s the level of megalomania or even a sociopath, has no understanding of what the other person is thinking or feeling or understanding. And I think he is just so detached and for the Clinton campaign, now they’ve always had two pillars. They’ve had the pillar of unstable, they’ve had the pillar of racist and now they have the pillar of flip-flopper. And those are three tough pillars for him to overcome.

. . .

WILLIE GEIST: Also, he could be walking into a trap, because the president of Mexico is in a position, as Joe just laid out the numbers. His approval rating is in the 20s. He’s been on the record comparing Trump to Mussolini and Hitler. This is a great moment for the Mexican president to bring Trump in, tear him down in front of the Mexican people and hopefully build up his ratings, as well.


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DieJustAsHappy | August 31, 2016 at 9:13 am

Gutsy. I think it’s a determined move, one indicating what sort of POTUS he would be as opposed to Hide-and-Seek Hillary!

How terrible to run the risk of being trashed by the Mexican Pres. Why doesn’t he just stay home and continue to be trashed by the media, the Dems and the GOPe?

    DieJustAsHappy in reply to katiejane. | August 31, 2016 at 9:34 am

    Broad shoulders. Despite his outbursts and sometimes knee-jerk reactions, it seems that in the end the man has broad shoulders, very broad ones such as needed by a POTUS.

“Morning Joe Rips Trump Mex Trip: ‘Flip-Flop, Nonsensical, Sociopath’”

Yawn. If Trump had turned down the invitation of the Mexican Prez, the enemedia would have howled that Trump was a racist and anti-mexican.

Now of course if OBAMA or Hillary had gone to visit Prez whatshisname, then THAT would have been an earth-shattering act of statesmanship and universal love.

    Mark Finkelstein in reply to AsokAsus. | August 31, 2016 at 11:36 am

    ‘Enemedia’ 😉

    meyou in reply to AsokAsus. | August 31, 2016 at 1:56 pm

    Joe has never been a Conservative, has he? IMO, he’s always been a flip-flop, nonsensical, sociopath, hasn’t he? And to be frank, he and Mika are kind of blending into one cuddly, fuzzy personality…but what’s going to happen to their show if they fight & break up?

These talking heads are all starting to sound like ex-wives who didn’t get their alimony checks.

The “Mourning Joe” boobs aside, who here believes the following…

1. Donald “Shifty” T-rump will order/advise/mandate that Mexico open an account for wall construction?

2. Donald “Shifty” T-rump will advise Mexico to prepare for the influx of millions of illegal immigrant returnees over the next two years?

3. Donald “Shifty” T-rump will warn Mexico that they can expect “remittances” to be “embargoed” until the wall is paid for?

4. Donald “Shifty” T-rump will give the Mexicans a tongue-bath, including the terms “wonderful, wonderful people who I love” or the equal?

This really is fun…and too easy.

    redc1c4 in reply to Ragspierre. | August 31, 2016 at 12:05 pm

    this is why Trump is a billionaire…

    he gets to live inside your head for free, which saves him having to pay those YUGE rents in NYC.

      I have to admit, Trump did live inside my head rent-free during the end of the primary season. In the beginning I was certain that no sane people will nominate him, and after his nomination this election seized to matter. It was a bit upsetting, to say the least, to witness conservatives lose. Am I a sucker for that? Should I want a better future for my kids? You tell me.

      Estragon in reply to redc1c4. | August 31, 2016 at 2:49 pm

      Trump’s no billionaire. That’s why you can’t see his taxes – it would be obvious.

      Tim O’Brien wrote a book on Trump some years ago, with Trump’s cooperation. But he also consulted other sources and mentioned that Trump’s net worth was likely less than he claimed, perhaps only $150-200 million. Trump sued him for libel, claiming that estimate damaged his brand.

      In depositions under oath, Trump admitted his own estimates of his worth were not based on any actual numbers, but more on how he felt about how things were going with his business and the greater economy – in other words, he just makes it up.

      Trump lost the suit and had to pay O’Brien’s legal bills.

    Ragspierre in reply to Ragspierre. | August 31, 2016 at 1:20 pm

    So, you can’t answer except with trite bullshit?

    The only thing T-rump avoids paying in New York City is taxes. Look it up.

    Ragspierre in reply to Ragspierre. | August 31, 2016 at 2:49 pm

    You can’t answer either, huh.

    My questions aren’t “trite”. They’re original and you can’t deal with them.

    Typical name-calling by a T-rump sucking cultist.

      MarkSmith in reply to Ragspierre. | August 31, 2016 at 11:09 pm

      Last original thought, wow, you must be a a member of the Peter Pan Generation. “original thought” my rat’s…..

      Jean Twenge, the author of the 2006 book Generation Me, considers Millennials, along with younger members of Generation X, to be part of what she calls “Generation Me”.[38] Twenge attributes Millennials with the traits of confidence and tolerance, but also identifies a sense of entitlement and narcissism based on personality surveys that showed increasing narcissism among Millennials compared to preceding generations when they were teens and in their twenties.

    maxmillion in reply to Ragspierre. | August 31, 2016 at 3:14 pm

    Raghead is out of bed early today. Is the 31st welfare check day?

    Milwaukee in reply to Ragspierre. | August 31, 2016 at 3:46 pm

    Ragspierre | August 31, 2016 at 10:14 am
    The “Mourning Joe” boobs aside, who here believes the following…

    1. Donald “Shifty” T-rump will order/advise/mandate that Mexico open an account for wall construction?

    2. Donald “Shifty” T-rump will advise Mexico to prepare for the influx of millions of illegal immigrant returnees over the next two years?

    3. Donald “Shifty” T-rump will warn Mexico that they can expect “remittances” to be “embargoed” until the wall is paid for?

    4. Donald “Shifty” T-rump will give the Mexicans a tongue-bath, including the terms “wonderful, wonderful people who I love” or the equal?

    This really is fun…and too easy.

    I’ll have a go at your original questions.

    1. Yes. But that doesn’t mean he really expects it to happen.
    2. Yes. This part rings some truth. We do have a problem with Mexican nationals committing crime in the United States of America. One Mexican, who killed an off-duty cop in Denver a few years ago, claimed it wasn’t his fault. The off-duty cop wasn’t wearing body armor. The killer said he thought the victim would have it on, and a shot the chest wouldn’t kill him.
    3. Yes. But this also depends on what “pay” means. It could mean, “we’ll make it more difficult for those of illegal immigration status to get jobs and send money back, which means more suffer, and your suffering is how you will pay.”
    4. Yes, that is his style.

    In the end, Trump might work out something more manageable than Hillary’s “legalize all illegal immigrants and bring in more”. We have been running an “attractive nuisance” here. We have enticed people to suffer horrible deprivations to come here for great rewards. Our system is a mess. An imperfect improvement beats holding out for a best solution.

    Keep hammering away Ragspierre. Any awful thing you want to say about Der Donald, I will probably agree with, before I vote for him. Hilary is that awful. You have lived some life, and must know that some times our choices are sucking out farts or eating shit.

    How do these original questions contribute to keeping Hilary Clinton out of the White House?

      Milwaukee in reply to Milwaukee. | August 31, 2016 at 3:50 pm

      This isn’t fun at all. For all his faults, Trump isn’t ideologically motivated. Hillary is. Maybe that is one of his faults.

      But Hilary comes with loads of ideologically motivated Marxist bullies, who would be happy to force their ideas on the rest of us, regardless of the cost. She will live well.

      Trump will live well, but he doesn’t mind if we live well and mind our own business.

        Ragspierre in reply to Milwaukee. | August 31, 2016 at 4:23 pm

        “Trump will live well, but he doesn’t mind if we live well and mind our own business.”

        There is ample evidence that is not true. He IS a Collectivist…a BIG GOVERNMENT guy…who thinks it’s his business to control the economy. He’s anti-liberty, anti-conservative, anti-market economics and anti-Constitution.

          MarkSmith in reply to Ragspierre. | August 31, 2016 at 10:51 pm

          You are so lost in your Jacobin ways. You have no clue what he is except for the little Jacobin voices talking in your head.

          Back it up with something more than your Hilary talking points.

      Ragspierre in reply to Milwaukee. | August 31, 2016 at 4:18 pm

      As you know, I hold both stinking, lying, pathologic Collectivist thugs in deep disdain.

      As you also know, I’ve been saying for years that we need to put teeth in our laws, making employment of illegal aliens…from anywhere…a criminal act that WILL be prosecuted.

      You likewise know that I support depriving any illegal of ALL aid on a national basis. That, and the certainty of unemployment, removes virtually all the “attractive nuisance” to which you correctly refer. They would self-deport over a few years.

      The criminals will always come here, because the pickin’s are so much richer. Those, when they are caught and convicted, should be imprisoned here for life. IMNHO.

      When a bullshitter like T-rump lies, I think it’s expedient to identify the lies, and to point out how they are lies.

      And, in the final analysis, there’s nothing I can do or not do that will make a flucking difference as to whether Hellary is elected POTUS.

      All I can really do at this miserable point in our history is remain true to myself, and mourn for my country. That, and maintain some hope we can come out of all this crap without actual bloodshed.

        rabidfox in reply to Ragspierre. | August 31, 2016 at 6:29 pm

        So your solution is to vote for Hillary.

        Walker Evans in reply to Ragspierre. | August 31, 2016 at 7:11 pm

        Perhaps I’m myopic, or just mentally inferior, but the only slim chance I can see for the country I served for over 20 years coming out of this mess even vaguely resembling the one where I was born nearly seven decades ago, without massive bloodshed, is the election of Donald Trump. Hillary has given us a 100% honest and accurate picture of the country she wants to rule and it does not even superficially resemble the one I pledged my life to defend.

        Do I love Donald Trump? No … even, Hell No! Do I fervently wish we had some other choice? With all my heart and soul. However, the reality is that there is no such savior waiting in the wings. If Hillary wins the only thing that can save us is that most of our troops, in all branches, are willing to die for the satisfaction of the oath they took, and believe in:

        “I, (state name), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.”

        Note that our troops are required to give first allegiance to the support and defense of the Constitution – and also note that part about all enemies, foreign and domestic – and only after that obligation is satisfied do we come to a requirement to obey orders of the President and the rest of the chain of command. That particular phrasing is not an accident nor a matter of semantics; it was written that way because, absent the Constitution, there is no legal basis for any of the rest! Believe me, this has been a topic of much serious discussion among both senior enlisted personnel and officers of field grade, the ones that actually command troops in combat. The consensus is that orders flatly contrary to the Constitution are not legal and need not be obeyed.

        So, there are the two scenarios for maintaining some semblance of a democratic republic for our children: one by the ballot box, and one via Jefferson’s “blood of patriots and tyrants”. I pray for the first, but am prepared for the second; I see no third choice.

        MarkSmith in reply to Ragspierre. | August 31, 2016 at 10:56 pm

        pathologic Collectivist thugs Just what I would expect to hear from a Hillary Lovin Jacobin.

        Ragspierre in reply to Ragspierre. | September 1, 2016 at 4:59 pm

        Tell you what, MarkSmith, you historic ignoramus, you DEFINE “Jacobian” and how that applies to me (the opposite), or any flucking thing relevant to the current scene.

        Because, see, you are an historic idiot, in addition to being incapable of rational argument.

        NEXT, you can point to ANYTHING I’ve said supportive of Hellary Clinton. With a link, asphole.

    VaGentleman in reply to Ragspierre. | August 31, 2016 at 11:05 pm

    Who here believes Hillary WON’T DO the following:
    1- open borders.
    2- immediate amnesty.
    3- immediate voting rights.

    This is too easy!

So the post-Mexico speech in Arizona should be interesting. Wonder if the La Raza/Soros hooligan contingent will be there in force. Given the current mood in AZ there could be determined opposition. His speech will tell if he has capitulated or galvanized his position.

Maybe wait a few hours before jumping to conclusions?

Very sensible, on several levels.

It keeps him in the news. The press is attracted to Trump like moths to flame, but he still has to do something; they can only detect moving objects. What to do? Kiss babies? Golf? Hobnob with the presidents of neighboring countries? The third choice is one of the things distinguishing Trump from Hillary and Obama. Trump does statecraft stuff while Obama lets criminals out of jail, and Hillary retreats to the bridal suite, chugs a few, and makes up fantasies about the Klan. Not even dumb ol’ Mika could make this look like a loser for Trump, so she whines that it’s nonsensical and beyond her feeble understanding.

I particularly like the way they keep calling El Presidente “The President of Mexico,” as if they don’t know that it’s Enrique Nieto. Guys, Google (despite the spyware) is your friend! There’s no danger at all that Nieto is going to ambush Trump; Nieto ain’t no Victoriano Huerta and Trump (fortunately for us all, even the ones who aren’t Mexican) ain’t no Woodrow Wilson.

Mika is just a lump of farm produce with a spiffy haircut. Perhaps if she just mugged for the camera—it made a pile of dough for Jon Stewart, didn’t it?—she could get through the show without making blondes sound dumb.

You know this trip is a game changer when the left is going nuts about it.

Maybe Scarborough Trump can find who killed your intern when he is down in Mexico…

Oh wait, Mexico had nothing to do with it.

MaggotAtBroadAndWall | August 31, 2016 at 11:35 am

I just hope while he’s there he takes another picture of himself with a taco to show how much he loves Hispanics.

what is a “Morning Joe”?

Immigration reform begins with changes at home. Perhaps Mexico has a common cause with America to address the causes of mass emigration/exodus. We should be good neighbors.

    4th armored div in reply to n.n. | August 31, 2016 at 12:37 pm

    one in five Mexican adults receives money from relatives working in the U.S.

    Remittances – a massive transfer of wealth out of America

      Milwaukee in reply to 4th armored div. | August 31, 2016 at 3:35 pm

      “4th armored div | August 31, 2016 at 12:37 pm
      one in five Mexican adults receives money from relatives working in the U.S.

      Remittances – a massive transfer of wealth out of America…”

      An editing suggestion: “… directly receives money…”

      For decades this money has been among the three sources of foregin currency into Mexico, oil revenues and tourism being the other two.

      We have been indirectly subsidizing the corrupt socialist government of Mexico, and all the elites who live fine lives while the majority of the people struggle. Surely we have some communal guilt coming our way for that. How about asking the Mexicans to loosen their laws? For example if rich Whites in California could buy ocean front property in Mexico, they could hire plenty of locals there, cheaply, to do the gardening and house service. They wouldn’t need to oppress illegals in California. But our people would need some rights, such as the right to own property in Mexico, which they don’t have now, and the right to self-defense, which they don’t have now. Only criminals in the drug trade, the police and military get to have guns. Sorry about the repeating myself. (Y’know, “criminals, … police, …military” is rather redundant when discussing Mexico. Just teams with different uniforms.) Have we ever asked Mexico to clean up their sorry corrupt asses? No. Check out “impunity” in regards to Mexican politics.

      One of the benefits for Mexican society of sending violent criminal offenders to the United States is that then they are in the United States. Sorta obvious.

Trump is going to Mexico rather than Hillary because she slept through the 3:00 am phone call from Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto extending her the same invitation. Trump didn’t. He got up and answered the bleeping phone.

I only hope when Hillary eventually wakes up and answers the phone from Enrique, she goes there to the roaring crowds of Mexicans lining the streets of her motorcade so Americans can see who actually represents the American people and who doesn’t.

By the way, Mexico just granted 426 transit visas to African migrants to cross their country to crash our borders and request political asylum. Apparently, the word is out, under Obama and, presumably Hillary as well, all you have to do is step foot on American soil and you are home free for at least three to four years before your case is even heard. Meanwhile, you are free to live anywhere you heart desires at public expense.

That’s not all. Now the Obama administration wants to expand his illegal alien child program to their adult parents, as well.

What a country?

This is hilarious. Maybe we can make the Brits pay for it…


Trump going to Mexico is a bold genius play. It shows him as being presidential. Optics are great. And it is further exposing the crooked media bias for crooked Hillary.

Hillary said today that Trump’s visit to Mexico “isn’t how things work”. No doubt she was referring to how as far as she knows first one gets the bribe and payoffs under the table or to her foundation and only then does she go meet someone.

I and Trump say to Hillary and all the political establishment. Yes we KNOW how things work, and Trump is going to CHANGE how things work, thankfully !!!!

    Ragspierre in reply to jsteinly. | August 31, 2016 at 3:05 pm

    Surprise, surprise!

    Incumbents win.

    The GOPe remains quite NOT-blown up, having been endorsed by Mr. Establishment.

I get no google hits for “media preaction” so I claim it as original.

What are the ratings for the morning joe show? Does anyone other than Mark watch them?

That’s Funny and probably true. Common, lets get some stories from NPR, Daily Kos and Huffy Post.