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	<title>Comments on: Okay, sure, I&#8217;ll fall for it and link to An October Surprise website</title>
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		<title>By: Austin G. Hart</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Austin G. Hart]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2012 15:14:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Based on the other comments and the update, it looks like the Jeff Hopwood that&#039;s mentioned in the last two links was connected after all. I&#039;m glad folks were able to figure it out before any of us wasted any more time on it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Based on the other comments and the update, it looks like the Jeff Hopwood that&#8217;s mentioned in the last two links was connected after all. I&#8217;m glad folks were able to figure it out before any of us wasted any more time on it.</p>
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		<title>By: Molon Labe</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Molon Labe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2012 11:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Having been outed by internet sleuths at FARK, the pranksters detonated the RickRoll last night:  www.octsurprise.com . [Safe.]

Their comments: &quot;Sorry folks. Did NOT expect this level of interest. Apologies! Jokes! Vote! Sorry for the most predictable rick roll ever.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having been outed by internet sleuths at FARK, the pranksters detonated the RickRoll last night:  <a href="http://www.octsurprise.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.octsurprise.com</a> . [Safe.]</p>
<p>Their comments: &#8220;Sorry folks. Did NOT expect this level of interest. Apologies! Jokes! Vote! Sorry for the most predictable rick roll ever.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: BarbaraS</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2012 00:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#1.  If they had some information that would turn the election and are using moveon.org lists, why would moveon.org or soros not pay for the whole shebang?  This sounds like a con.  I wonder if these guys were kicked out of Nigeria?  Maybe for not ponying up enough bribes or their fair share to officials?  BTW, didn&#039;t we read a week or so ago that these scams would crop up supposedly supporting both sides.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#1.  If they had some information that would turn the election and are using moveon.org lists, why would moveon.org or soros not pay for the whole shebang?  This sounds like a con.  I wonder if these guys were kicked out of Nigeria?  Maybe for not ponying up enough bribes or their fair share to officials?  BTW, didn&#8217;t we read a week or so ago that these scams would crop up supposedly supporting both sides.</p>
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		<title>By: I Aim to Misbehave</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[I Aim to Misbehave]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2012 19:47:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Daily Caller has a piece on this today, suggesting that users of Fark have uncovered the owners of the site and that it was planned as a giant &quot;Rickroll&quot;.

http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/18/octsuprise-com-is-just-one-big-rick-roll-say-farkers/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Daily Caller has a piece on this today, suggesting that users of Fark have uncovered the owners of the site and that it was planned as a giant &#8220;Rickroll&#8221;.</p>
<p><a href="http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/18/octsuprise-com-is-just-one-big-rick-roll-say-farkers/" rel="nofollow">http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/18/octsuprise-com-is-just-one-big-rick-roll-say-farkers/</a></p>
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		<title>By: KRoyalll</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[KRoyalll]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2012 17:54:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If it has anything to do with Romney not paying taxes in one year or another, it won&#039;t alter the race one bit. That is baked into the cake. The people that care about that are already against him. 6 pages of documents wouldn&#039;t be enough to even cover the scope of Mitt&#039;s returns, they probably run into the 100&#039;s of pages every year. 

Not to mention they would have to be obtained through illegal means and the 2 guys who we already know are involved would be subjecting themselves to some serious legal problems. I don&#039;t think they have the balls for that. 

I am leaning toward it being a hoax at this point given they did one before. If they do work for Discovery, at some point their employer is going to frown on this sort of thing. Finally, I just don&#039;t believe that anyone who had a major smoking gun that would truly alter the election outcome would come to these dorks to put it out. There are so many other outlets that would could be used that would have a far greater impact. They are trying to generate attention to themselves and are having a good laugh at the same time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it has anything to do with Romney not paying taxes in one year or another, it won&#8217;t alter the race one bit. That is baked into the cake. The people that care about that are already against him. 6 pages of documents wouldn&#8217;t be enough to even cover the scope of Mitt&#8217;s returns, they probably run into the 100&#8217;s of pages every year. </p>
<p>Not to mention they would have to be obtained through illegal means and the 2 guys who we already know are involved would be subjecting themselves to some serious legal problems. I don&#8217;t think they have the balls for that. </p>
<p>I am leaning toward it being a hoax at this point given they did one before. If they do work for Discovery, at some point their employer is going to frown on this sort of thing. Finally, I just don&#8217;t believe that anyone who had a major smoking gun that would truly alter the election outcome would come to these dorks to put it out. There are so many other outlets that would could be used that would have a far greater impact. They are trying to generate attention to themselves and are having a good laugh at the same time.</p>
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		<title>By: shelby9700</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2012 16:29:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[by the way, I&#039;m from chgo and very pro Romney, along with everyone I know]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>by the way, I&#8217;m from chgo and very pro Romney, along with everyone I know</p>
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		<title>By: shelby9700</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2012 16:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I had sent a video as a joke back in 2007 about Obama, and was put on an email list from moveon.org. as a result. I received this email recently, read about the printer. Wonder if this has anything to do with this. (I&#039;m in the chgo area)
Subject: Joe-mentum



With the presidential race neck-and-neck, we need a stellar voter turnout boost to get progressives to the polls. Well, guess what! We&#039;ve got a method so effective we can&#039;t even give all the details away—and we&#039;ve got an unexpected, one-day opportunity to ramp it up. Can you chip in? 

Chip in $5  
 
 
Dear MoveOn member,

Phew! Last night, Joe Biden kicked butt and may have put the brakes on Mitt Romney&#039;s rise. That would be very good, because Romney is ahead right now in most national polls,1 even as President Obama has kept a narrowing lead in swing states.2

With the race so close, a huge progressive get-out-the-vote effort is the best way to make sure it goes our way.

With that in mind, yesterday we figured out a way to target 3 million more potential voters with the secret weapon we told you about 2 weeks ago—our new technique that tested 3.7 times more powerful, dollar-for-dollar, than conventional voter turnout methods.

This is big news! I thought we were limited to targeting 8 million people. But yesterday, after looking at the polling numbers, we called the printer (yep, there&#039;s a printer involved) and begged. He found more paper and press time—enough to target millions more potential progressive voters in Florida, Wisconsin, and Ohio! That&#039;s crucial because if President Obama can hold two of these states, Romney&#039;s path to victory is basically impossible.

It&#039;ll cost $475,000, and we can commit if we raise a good chunk of that today.

And here&#039;s more good news—when we figured out we could go bigger, we called a close ally, who agreed to match the first $125,000 donated with their own efforts. So your money could go twice as far.

Can you chip in $5 to help us double down on this powerful new way to get out the progressive vote? 


Please chip in whatever you can right now—we have to commit today. Together with the thousands of MoveOn members who will be out knocking on doors and hitting the phones over the next four weeks, I believe this strategy will be enough to tip the balance.

This race is too close to leave to chance! Please chip in now.

Yes, I can contribute $5.

Thanks for all you do.

–Anna, Ilya, Laura, Wes, and the rest of the team

Sources:

1. &quot;Romney ahead in four new national polls,&quot; The Hill, October 11, 2012 
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=282438&amp;id=54600-14707137-QPiRgTx&amp;t=5

2. &quot;Swing state polls echo national trend: Mitt Romney on the rise,&quot; The Christian Science Monitor, October 11, 2012 
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=282439&amp;id=54600-14707137-QPiRgTx&amp;t=6 



Here&#039;s the original email where we described this amazing breakthrough:


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We&#039;ve invented a breakthrough new technique for turning out HUGE numbers of progressive voters. It&#039;s been tested with 170,000 voters—and we got the most exciting results in MoveOn&#039;s history! We want to roll it out nationwide to save the Senate, win back the House, and hold on to the White House. 

WOW! At 5 PM on Friday, a major partner offered to match every dollar donated, up to $500,000. So you&#039;ll now get twice the bang for your buck! Can you chip in? 

Chip in $5  
 
 
Dear MoveOn member,

I think we may have just discovered the silver bullet that could help us win the whole election.

Two weeks ago, we ran a secret test of a new voter turnout method in a state primary election. There were 170,000 voters in the study. We just got back the results, and our new method was 3.7 times more effective, dollar for dollar, than the best techniques used by campaigns today. Take a look at this simple chart:

Making phone calls &#124;==

Sending mail       &#124;=====

Going door-to-door &#124;=======

OUR NEW METHOD     &#124;=========================

Let me put that in perspective: Normally, we&#039;re delighted if we figure out something that gives us a 10% improvement. This test showed a 370% improvement.

This alone could be enough to tip the balance in the Senate, help Democrats win the House—and maybe even flip two or three swing states.

The challenge: We had no idea we&#039;d get such great results, and to have everything ready in time, we need to commit by Monday!! Which means we have to raise a good portion of the entire $3 million budget by then. Arrgh!

But things are suddenly looking up, because at 5 PM on Friday, I got a call from a major partner who&#039;s as excited about this project as we are. They&#039;re offering to match every dollar donated, up to $500,000, with their own efforts! That means you&#039;ll get twice the bang for your buck.

So, whatever you&#039;re doing right now, can you take three minutes to make a contribution so that we can use this incredibly powerful new voter turnout method across the country? This is the moment to open up your wallet for this election. Seriously. CODE RED. Please help!

Yes, I will contribute $5 to help us deploy our new voter turnout method in every close race this year!
I don&#039;t want to look back on Nov. 7—the day after the election—and think, &quot;If only we had a bit more money in late September, we could&#039;ve won those two crucial Senate races! Or (God forbid) we could&#039;ve run up the margin enough to keep Republicans from stealing the election!&quot; And I KNOW you don&#039;t want to be thinking, &quot;If only I and a few other people had chipped in the price of a pizza, we&#039;d be celebrating right now!&quot;

So I&#039;m trying to make this as clear as I can. This is the most promising set of test results we&#039;ve EVER seen at MoveOn.

I can&#039;t give all the details of what we figured out, because we don&#039;t want the other side to know. So this has to be somewhat vague. But basically, we took groundbreaking research from social psychology, and for the first time, applied it to voting. And, wow, it really worked!

The question is whether we can raise enough money in the next few days to roll it out nationally. If just 30,000 of us chip in, we can change the outcome of this election. Can you chip in?

Yes, I want to make a donation.

Thanks for all you do.

–Anna, Ilya, Laura, Wes, and the rest of the team


Want to support our work? MoveOn Civic Action is entirely funded by our 7 million members—no corporate contributions, no big checks from CEOs. And our tiny staff ensures that small contributions go a long way. Chip in here. 


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had sent a video as a joke back in 2007 about Obama, and was put on an email list from moveon.org. as a result. I received this email recently, read about the printer. Wonder if this has anything to do with this. (I&#8217;m in the chgo area)<br />
Subject: Joe-mentum</p>
<p>With the presidential race neck-and-neck, we need a stellar voter turnout boost to get progressives to the polls. Well, guess what! We&#8217;ve got a method so effective we can&#8217;t even give all the details away—and we&#8217;ve got an unexpected, one-day opportunity to ramp it up. Can you chip in? </p>
<p>Chip in $5  </p>
<p>Dear MoveOn member,</p>
<p>Phew! Last night, Joe Biden kicked butt and may have put the brakes on Mitt Romney&#8217;s rise. That would be very good, because Romney is ahead right now in most national polls,1 even as President Obama has kept a narrowing lead in swing states.2</p>
<p>With the race so close, a huge progressive get-out-the-vote effort is the best way to make sure it goes our way.</p>
<p>With that in mind, yesterday we figured out a way to target 3 million more potential voters with the secret weapon we told you about 2 weeks ago—our new technique that tested 3.7 times more powerful, dollar-for-dollar, than conventional voter turnout methods.</p>
<p>This is big news! I thought we were limited to targeting 8 million people. But yesterday, after looking at the polling numbers, we called the printer (yep, there&#8217;s a printer involved) and begged. He found more paper and press time—enough to target millions more potential progressive voters in Florida, Wisconsin, and Ohio! That&#8217;s crucial because if President Obama can hold two of these states, Romney&#8217;s path to victory is basically impossible.</p>
<p>It&#8217;ll cost $475,000, and we can commit if we raise a good chunk of that today.</p>
<p>And here&#8217;s more good news—when we figured out we could go bigger, we called a close ally, who agreed to match the first $125,000 donated with their own efforts. So your money could go twice as far.</p>
<p>Can you chip in $5 to help us double down on this powerful new way to get out the progressive vote? </p>
<p>Please chip in whatever you can right now—we have to commit today. Together with the thousands of MoveOn members who will be out knocking on doors and hitting the phones over the next four weeks, I believe this strategy will be enough to tip the balance.</p>
<p>This race is too close to leave to chance! Please chip in now.</p>
<p>Yes, I can contribute $5.</p>
<p>Thanks for all you do.</p>
<p>–Anna, Ilya, Laura, Wes, and the rest of the team</p>
<p>Sources:</p>
<p>1. &#8220;Romney ahead in four new national polls,&#8221; The Hill, October 11, 2012<br />
<a href="http://www.moveon.org/r?r=282438&#038;id=54600-14707137-QPiRgTx&#038;t=5" rel="nofollow">http://www.moveon.org/r?r=282438&#038;id=54600-14707137-QPiRgTx&#038;t=5</a></p>
<p>2. &#8220;Swing state polls echo national trend: Mitt Romney on the rise,&#8221; The Christian Science Monitor, October 11, 2012<br />
<a href="http://www.moveon.org/r?r=282439&#038;id=54600-14707137-QPiRgTx&#038;t=6" rel="nofollow">http://www.moveon.org/r?r=282439&#038;id=54600-14707137-QPiRgTx&#038;t=6</a> </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the original email where we described this amazing breakthrough:</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br />
We&#8217;ve invented a breakthrough new technique for turning out HUGE numbers of progressive voters. It&#8217;s been tested with 170,000 voters—and we got the most exciting results in MoveOn&#8217;s history! We want to roll it out nationwide to save the Senate, win back the House, and hold on to the White House. </p>
<p>WOW! At 5 PM on Friday, a major partner offered to match every dollar donated, up to $500,000. So you&#8217;ll now get twice the bang for your buck! Can you chip in? </p>
<p>Chip in $5  </p>
<p>Dear MoveOn member,</p>
<p>I think we may have just discovered the silver bullet that could help us win the whole election.</p>
<p>Two weeks ago, we ran a secret test of a new voter turnout method in a state primary election. There were 170,000 voters in the study. We just got back the results, and our new method was 3.7 times more effective, dollar for dollar, than the best techniques used by campaigns today. Take a look at this simple chart:</p>
<p>Making phone calls |==</p>
<p>Sending mail       |=====</p>
<p>Going door-to-door |=======</p>
<p>OUR NEW METHOD     |=========================</p>
<p>Let me put that in perspective: Normally, we&#8217;re delighted if we figure out something that gives us a 10% improvement. This test showed a 370% improvement.</p>
<p>This alone could be enough to tip the balance in the Senate, help Democrats win the House—and maybe even flip two or three swing states.</p>
<p>The challenge: We had no idea we&#8217;d get such great results, and to have everything ready in time, we need to commit by Monday!! Which means we have to raise a good portion of the entire $3 million budget by then. Arrgh!</p>
<p>But things are suddenly looking up, because at 5 PM on Friday, I got a call from a major partner who&#8217;s as excited about this project as we are. They&#8217;re offering to match every dollar donated, up to $500,000, with their own efforts! That means you&#8217;ll get twice the bang for your buck.</p>
<p>So, whatever you&#8217;re doing right now, can you take three minutes to make a contribution so that we can use this incredibly powerful new voter turnout method across the country? This is the moment to open up your wallet for this election. Seriously. CODE RED. Please help!</p>
<p>Yes, I will contribute $5 to help us deploy our new voter turnout method in every close race this year!<br />
I don&#8217;t want to look back on Nov. 7—the day after the election—and think, &#8220;If only we had a bit more money in late September, we could&#8217;ve won those two crucial Senate races! Or (God forbid) we could&#8217;ve run up the margin enough to keep Republicans from stealing the election!&#8221; And I KNOW you don&#8217;t want to be thinking, &#8220;If only I and a few other people had chipped in the price of a pizza, we&#8217;d be celebrating right now!&#8221;</p>
<p>So I&#8217;m trying to make this as clear as I can. This is the most promising set of test results we&#8217;ve EVER seen at MoveOn.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t give all the details of what we figured out, because we don&#8217;t want the other side to know. So this has to be somewhat vague. But basically, we took groundbreaking research from social psychology, and for the first time, applied it to voting. And, wow, it really worked!</p>
<p>The question is whether we can raise enough money in the next few days to roll it out nationally. If just 30,000 of us chip in, we can change the outcome of this election. Can you chip in?</p>
<p>Yes, I want to make a donation.</p>
<p>Thanks for all you do.</p>
<p>–Anna, Ilya, Laura, Wes, and the rest of the team</p>
<p>Want to support our work? MoveOn Civic Action is entirely funded by our 7 million members—no corporate contributions, no big checks from CEOs. And our tiny staff ensures that small contributions go a long way. Chip in here. </p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
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		<title>By: AtAnyTime</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2012 16:00:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The latest &quot;hint&quot; states it relates to something mentioned at both the VP and second debate. I am concerned it will be something negative pertaining to Mitt&#039;s wealth/financial background, too. One of the Twitter followers was a co-worker, ardent Obama supporter; can&#039;t imagine anything from Chicago being positive for Romney.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The latest &#8220;hint&#8221; states it relates to something mentioned at both the VP and second debate. I am concerned it will be something negative pertaining to Mitt&#8217;s wealth/financial background, too. One of the Twitter followers was a co-worker, ardent Obama supporter; can&#8217;t imagine anything from Chicago being positive for Romney.</p>
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		<title>By: McCoy2k</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[McCoy2k]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2012 15:37:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[At this point, I&#039;m thinking it&#039;s related to Bain. If that&#039;s the case, all it takes is *one* disgruntled employee and Axelrod&#039;s Chicago strategy to collude in nasty subterfuge.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At this point, I&#8217;m thinking it&#8217;s related to Bain. If that&#8217;s the case, all it takes is *one* disgruntled employee and Axelrod&#8217;s Chicago strategy to collude in nasty subterfuge.</p>
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		<title>By: Hawk</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hawk]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2012 14:27:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have gazed into my crystal ball and see that the Intel community has had their fill of being called inept, stupid, lying, bumblers and are going to release some very damning info on Libya attack etc.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have gazed into my crystal ball and see that the Intel community has had their fill of being called inept, stupid, lying, bumblers and are going to release some very damning info on Libya attack etc.</p>
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		<title>By: SGLawrence</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SGLawrence]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2012 13:21:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Octsurprise just dropped 3d fact: &quot;mentioned in both VP debate and second presidential debate.&quot; Libya/Benghazi was mentioned in both first and second debates. I&#039;m now wondering if it IS Benghazi/Libya documents that will devastate Obama. Perhaps a document leak by Hilary who&#039;s doing who knows what in Lima, Peru (filming the Bridge Over San Luis Rey?)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Octsurprise just dropped 3d fact: &#8220;mentioned in both VP debate and second presidential debate.&#8221; Libya/Benghazi was mentioned in both first and second debates. I&#8217;m now wondering if it IS Benghazi/Libya documents that will devastate Obama. Perhaps a document leak by Hilary who&#8217;s doing who knows what in Lima, Peru (filming the Bridge Over San Luis Rey?)</p>
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		<title>By: Patriot101</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Patriot101]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2012 08:54:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Octsuprise tweeted yesterday that WIOWSA belongs to one of his &quot;Devs&quot; (Developers?)

Cached Buzzfeed of WIOWSA referring to tweetemback and partisilator:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:8Cuh7IkU7l8J:www.buzzfeed.com/wiowsa+whatisoccupywallstreetabout.com+politican+tweets&amp;cd=1&amp;hl=en&amp;ct=clnk&amp;gl=us 

Cached webpage for whatisoccupywallstreetabout.com
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:i1JKoKN1H7oJ:www.whatisoccupywallstreetabout.com/+whatisoccupywallstreetabout.com+politican+tweets&amp;cd=3&amp;hl=en&amp;ct=clnk&amp;gl=us

Same registrant (Deftone) owns whatisoccupywallstreetabout.com, tweetemback.com and probably partislator.com because both pages have the same web content.  At Dailykos - there is a Partislator pushing these sites: http://www.dailykos.com/blog/partislator 

If you look at Partislator&#039;s posts at Dailykos, most recent one is about Octobersurprise!  http://www.dailykos.com/user/partislator/comments

Cached FB page also refers to Deftones, IL and a cable TV related website.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Octsuprise tweeted yesterday that WIOWSA belongs to one of his &#8220;Devs&#8221; (Developers?)</p>
<p>Cached Buzzfeed of WIOWSA referring to tweetemback and partisilator:<br />
<a href="http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:8Cuh7IkU7l8J:www.buzzfeed.com/wiowsa+whatisoccupywallstreetabout.com+politican+tweets&#038;cd=1&#038;hl=en&#038;ct=clnk&#038;gl=us" rel="nofollow">http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:8Cuh7IkU7l8J:www.buzzfeed.com/wiowsa+whatisoccupywallstreetabout.com+politican+tweets&#038;cd=1&#038;hl=en&#038;ct=clnk&#038;gl=us</a> </p>
<p>Cached webpage for whatisoccupywallstreetabout.com<br />
<a href="http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:i1JKoKN1H7oJ:www.whatisoccupywallstreetabout.com/+whatisoccupywallstreetabout.com+politican+tweets&#038;cd=3&#038;hl=en&#038;ct=clnk&#038;gl=us" rel="nofollow">http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:i1JKoKN1H7oJ:www.whatisoccupywallstreetabout.com/+whatisoccupywallstreetabout.com+politican+tweets&#038;cd=3&#038;hl=en&#038;ct=clnk&#038;gl=us</a></p>
<p>Same registrant (Deftone) owns whatisoccupywallstreetabout.com, tweetemback.com and probably partislator.com because both pages have the same web content.  At Dailykos &#8211; there is a Partislator pushing these sites: <a href="http://www.dailykos.com/blog/partislator" rel="nofollow">http://www.dailykos.com/blog/partislator</a> </p>
<p>If you look at Partislator&#8217;s posts at Dailykos, most recent one is about Octobersurprise!  <a href="http://www.dailykos.com/user/partislator/comments" rel="nofollow">http://www.dailykos.com/user/partislator/comments</a></p>
<p>Cached FB page also refers to Deftones, IL and a cable TV related website.</p>
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		<title>By: KRoyalll</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[KRoyalll]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2012 08:49:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[From the OctSurprise Twitter feed: 

First Hint: It will directly, explicitly and irrefutably contradict public statements. 

&quot;Public statements&quot; sounds more like something the administration (or Obama) has been putting out. Mitt has made &quot;public statements&quot; of a sort but not so much of the kind that documentary evidence would refute. 

He just hasn&#039;t been specific enough on matters relating to his personal life, tenure as governor or head of Bain to really burn him this way. Perhaps something related to him being involved in Bain beyond when he said he was but hell, he has already been accused of that anyway. Same thing with his taxes and the draft. 

Obama on the other hand has made many definitive public statements regarding a whole host of matters. Seems that it would be easier to dig up something on him. 

Another statement from the Twitter feed:

&quot;This has the propensity to turn this election from a nail-biter into the biggest electoral landslide since 1984 - our source&quot;

Why 1984? Reagan won by a landslide in 84 so does that tip it toward being about Obama? Of course Reagan was the incumbent in that election too so that might indicate it is related to Mitt.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the OctSurprise Twitter feed: </p>
<p>First Hint: It will directly, explicitly and irrefutably contradict public statements. </p>
<p>&#8220;Public statements&#8221; sounds more like something the administration (or Obama) has been putting out. Mitt has made &#8220;public statements&#8221; of a sort but not so much of the kind that documentary evidence would refute. </p>
<p>He just hasn&#8217;t been specific enough on matters relating to his personal life, tenure as governor or head of Bain to really burn him this way. Perhaps something related to him being involved in Bain beyond when he said he was but hell, he has already been accused of that anyway. Same thing with his taxes and the draft. </p>
<p>Obama on the other hand has made many definitive public statements regarding a whole host of matters. Seems that it would be easier to dig up something on him. </p>
<p>Another statement from the Twitter feed:</p>
<p>&#8220;This has the propensity to turn this election from a nail-biter into the biggest electoral landslide since 1984 &#8211; our source&#8221;</p>
<p>Why 1984? Reagan won by a landslide in 84 so does that tip it toward being about Obama? Of course Reagan was the incumbent in that election too so that might indicate it is related to Mitt.</p>
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		<title>By: KRoyalll</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[KRoyalll]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2012 08:22:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have been researching this for a couple of hours. It appears many of the other posters have indeed &quot;made&quot; the guy who is behind this because he is furiously trying to delete stuff off of multiple web sites so as not to be outed. This of course only confirms it IS him because anyone *not* involved wouldn&#039;t even know this was going on.

If it is related to Mitt and the blurred images represent  official documents of some kind, I can&#039;t imagine it having much impact. Anything related to draft deferments or tax records isn&#039;t going to change the outcome of the election that dramatically. The people who hate him already assume he dodged the draft and cheated on his taxes.

Some people who are supporting him are actually doing so for selfish reasons. They may not like him much, but they figure he can turn the economy around so they are voting for him. Revelations of the kind I mentioned wouldn&#039;t faze them much. People like me who DO like Mitt won&#039;t vote for Obama under any circumstances. 

Any other stuff related to Bain or offshore dealings is baked in the cake and won&#039;t have much impact. As for Obama, there is a helluva lot more to speculate about. Student loan applications, documents related to his citizenship, proof of associations with bad actors, could be anything.

I do agree one of the forms appears to be tax related. Romney&#039;s tax returns are enormous so I don&#039;t know if six pages of material would even reveal enough to harm him. The guy behind this seems to be relating the material to something that was discussed or supposed to be discussed at the debate. I am not sure where that leads.

The Twitter feed may indicate the guy who was mentioned on this thread was merely the web developer, not one of the major players in this. Of course birds of a feather on that one. If the developer is a lefty OWS type, the main man probably would be too. I am leaning toward believing this is either pure BS or a guy who believes he has something big that in reality isn&#039;t much.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been researching this for a couple of hours. It appears many of the other posters have indeed &#8220;made&#8221; the guy who is behind this because he is furiously trying to delete stuff off of multiple web sites so as not to be outed. This of course only confirms it IS him because anyone *not* involved wouldn&#8217;t even know this was going on.</p>
<p>If it is related to Mitt and the blurred images represent  official documents of some kind, I can&#8217;t imagine it having much impact. Anything related to draft deferments or tax records isn&#8217;t going to change the outcome of the election that dramatically. The people who hate him already assume he dodged the draft and cheated on his taxes.</p>
<p>Some people who are supporting him are actually doing so for selfish reasons. They may not like him much, but they figure he can turn the economy around so they are voting for him. Revelations of the kind I mentioned wouldn&#8217;t faze them much. People like me who DO like Mitt won&#8217;t vote for Obama under any circumstances. </p>
<p>Any other stuff related to Bain or offshore dealings is baked in the cake and won&#8217;t have much impact. As for Obama, there is a helluva lot more to speculate about. Student loan applications, documents related to his citizenship, proof of associations with bad actors, could be anything.</p>
<p>I do agree one of the forms appears to be tax related. Romney&#8217;s tax returns are enormous so I don&#8217;t know if six pages of material would even reveal enough to harm him. The guy behind this seems to be relating the material to something that was discussed or supposed to be discussed at the debate. I am not sure where that leads.</p>
<p>The Twitter feed may indicate the guy who was mentioned on this thread was merely the web developer, not one of the major players in this. Of course birds of a feather on that one. If the developer is a lefty OWS type, the main man probably would be too. I am leaning toward believing this is either pure BS or a guy who believes he has something big that in reality isn&#8217;t much.</p>
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		<title>By: McCoy2k</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[McCoy2k]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2012 05:41:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just a thought, if Romney is certain this potential October Surprise is about his tax records - maybe even other financial records - he should get his lawyers and accountants together and prepared to do one of two things: 

(1) a court order to release them or quash them (if they would truly work - I doubt it); or

(2) put a package together that would be a competing narrative about his taxes records and financial history, and do a Friday night document dump.

I highly doubt the legal route would work in scenario 1 in either case. Scenario 2 is the better option. There are probably other scenarios that I can&#039;t come up with. 

Maybe Romney and his advisers already have a &quot;prepackaged&quot; document release strategy for his taxes and such in case this was going to happen. If advisers and staff are worth their salt, they would have researched what Obama and Co. are capable. A Friday night document dump spoils the timeline and narrative Axelrod and Obama want in the final stretch of the campaign if this was their &quot;ace in the hole&quot;.

The debate next week is about foreign policy, but in an instance of news of this magnitude, they would let both Romney and Obama address this. Then spend the rest of the night hammering Obama&#039;s foreign policy disasters.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a thought, if Romney is certain this potential October Surprise is about his tax records &#8211; maybe even other financial records &#8211; he should get his lawyers and accountants together and prepared to do one of two things: </p>
<p>(1) a court order to release them or quash them (if they would truly work &#8211; I doubt it); or</p>
<p>(2) put a package together that would be a competing narrative about his taxes records and financial history, and do a Friday night document dump.</p>
<p>I highly doubt the legal route would work in scenario 1 in either case. Scenario 2 is the better option. There are probably other scenarios that I can&#8217;t come up with. </p>
<p>Maybe Romney and his advisers already have a &#8220;prepackaged&#8221; document release strategy for his taxes and such in case this was going to happen. If advisers and staff are worth their salt, they would have researched what Obama and Co. are capable. A Friday night document dump spoils the timeline and narrative Axelrod and Obama want in the final stretch of the campaign if this was their &#8220;ace in the hole&#8221;.</p>
<p>The debate next week is about foreign policy, but in an instance of news of this magnitude, they would let both Romney and Obama address this. Then spend the rest of the night hammering Obama&#8217;s foreign policy disasters.</p>
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		<title>By: McCoy2k</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[McCoy2k]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2012 05:13:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s been my fear...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s been my fear&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: rookwood</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rookwood]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2012 05:11:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Also, if it is originating from Chicago, could it could be the conservative Hillbuzz gang (gay community)outing Obama?

http://hillbuzz.org/time-to-tell-everyone-you-know-about-jeremiah-wrights-down-low-club-barackobama-presobama-26407]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, if it is originating from Chicago, could it could be the conservative Hillbuzz gang (gay community)outing Obama?</p>
<p><a href="http://hillbuzz.org/time-to-tell-everyone-you-know-about-jeremiah-wrights-down-low-club-barackobama-presobama-26407" rel="nofollow">http://hillbuzz.org/time-to-tell-everyone-you-know-about-jeremiah-wrights-down-low-club-barackobama-presobama-26407</a></p>
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		<title>By: rookwood</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rookwood]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2012 04:52:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[BENGHAZI-GATE: Did two heroic SEALs ruin Obama’s October Surprise?

http://beforeitsnews.com/opinion-conservative/2012/10/benghazi-gate-did-two-heroic-seals-ruin-obamas-october-surprise-2503206.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BENGHAZI-GATE: Did two heroic SEALs ruin Obama’s October Surprise?</p>
<p><a href="http://beforeitsnews.com/opinion-conservative/2012/10/benghazi-gate-did-two-heroic-seals-ruin-obamas-october-surprise-2503206.html" rel="nofollow">http://beforeitsnews.com/opinion-conservative/2012/10/benghazi-gate-did-two-heroic-seals-ruin-obamas-october-surprise-2503206.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: JD61</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JD61]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2012 04:50:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi,
The guys who created this &quot;October Surprise&quot; site are two hoaxters.

&quot;Registered by Jeffrey Hopwood. Reverse IP search of the October Surprise site leads to http://pausetime.com run by his friend Anthony Maro. A Google search shows that this pair was responsible for some kind of hoax back in 2007.&quot;

These guys are scrubbing as I write (I think Jeff just deleted his facebook profile):

http://openingbands.com/forums/viewthread.race?MessageID=90127&amp;offset=10

The cache:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:OuPmeDNwHcoJ:openingbands.com/forums/viewthread.race%3FMessageID%3D90127%26offset%3D10+&amp;cd=1&amp;hl=en&amp;ct=clnk&amp;gl=us&amp;client=firefox-a

I almost feel sorry for the poor Obama supporters who thought this might be their &quot;Hail Mary&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,<br />
The guys who created this &#8220;October Surprise&#8221; site are two hoaxters.</p>
<p>&#8220;Registered by Jeffrey Hopwood. Reverse IP search of the October Surprise site leads to <a href="http://pausetime.com" rel="nofollow">http://pausetime.com</a> run by his friend Anthony Maro. A Google search shows that this pair was responsible for some kind of hoax back in 2007.&#8221;</p>
<p>These guys are scrubbing as I write (I think Jeff just deleted his facebook profile):</p>
<p><a href="http://openingbands.com/forums/viewthread.race?MessageID=90127&#038;offset=10" rel="nofollow">http://openingbands.com/forums/viewthread.race?MessageID=90127&#038;offset=10</a></p>
<p>The cache:</p>
<p><a href="http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:OuPmeDNwHcoJ:openingbands.com/forums/viewthread.race%3FMessageID%3D90127%26offset%3D10+&#038;cd=1&#038;hl=en&#038;ct=clnk&#038;gl=us&#038;client=firefox-a" rel="nofollow">http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:OuPmeDNwHcoJ:openingbands.com/forums/viewthread.race%3FMessageID%3D90127%26offset%3D10+&#038;cd=1&#038;hl=en&#038;ct=clnk&#038;gl=us&#038;client=firefox-a</a></p>
<p>I almost feel sorry for the poor Obama supporters who thought this might be their &#8220;Hail Mary&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Malkiel_kol_hakavod_la_el</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Malkiel_kol_hakavod_la_el]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2012 04:29:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We have some damn good geeks on here.... I am amazed...  I am not kidding....  Bravo people.... And they say the major geeks are on the left.....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have some damn good geeks on here&#8230;. I am amazed&#8230;  I am not kidding&#8230;.  Bravo people&#8230;. And they say the major geeks are on the left&#8230;..</p>
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