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		<title>By: Estragon</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Estragon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2014 08:06:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s an ongoing function, the appropriation isn&#039;t made every budget cycle.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s an ongoing function, the appropriation isn&#8217;t made every budget cycle.</p>
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		<title>By: Estragon</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Estragon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2014 08:04:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Any &#039;solution&#039; that involves &#039;shutting down the government&#039; may sound good, but isn&#039;t practical.

Of course, we should go back to regular budget order and produce nine separate funding bills, so the &#039;shutdown&#039; would only involve the agencies funded by the one bill.  But the self-funding nature of the ICE process would mean they could likely continue anyway.

Even a plurality of Republicans opposed the 2013 shutdown, and independents disapproved by 2-1.  That just isn&#039;t a winning or sustainable strategy, it&#039;s just a naive reaction.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any &#8216;solution&#8217; that involves &#8216;shutting down the government&#8217; may sound good, but isn&#8217;t practical.</p>
<p>Of course, we should go back to regular budget order and produce nine separate funding bills, so the &#8216;shutdown&#8217; would only involve the agencies funded by the one bill.  But the self-funding nature of the ICE process would mean they could likely continue anyway.</p>
<p>Even a plurality of Republicans opposed the 2013 shutdown, and independents disapproved by 2-1.  That just isn&#8217;t a winning or sustainable strategy, it&#8217;s just a naive reaction.</p>
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		<title>By: Estragon</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Estragon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2014 07:59:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is funded by fees.  Congress can still restrict how those fees are spent, though - BUT it is just like any other appropriation, requiring Congress to approve and the President to sign, or his veto to be overridden.

So the tactic won&#039;t work at all in the lame duck; Reid will never let such a House bill to come to a vote.

- - 

We can and should try this in the new Congress, but unless 13 Democrats vote to override in the Senate, and about 25 or so Democrats in the House, it will fail.  It is still worthwhile to get those Democrats on the record for 2016 and beyond, but it won&#039;t stop Obama&#039;s plan.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is funded by fees.  Congress can still restrict how those fees are spent, though &#8211; BUT it is just like any other appropriation, requiring Congress to approve and the President to sign, or his veto to be overridden.</p>
<p>So the tactic won&#8217;t work at all in the lame duck; Reid will never let such a House bill to come to a vote.</p>
<p>&#8211; &#8211; </p>
<p>We can and should try this in the new Congress, but unless 13 Democrats vote to override in the Senate, and about 25 or so Democrats in the House, it will fail.  It is still worthwhile to get those Democrats on the record for 2016 and beyond, but it won&#8217;t stop Obama&#8217;s plan.</p>
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		<title>By: Ragspierre</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ragspierre]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2014 06:42:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Right to work = choice for workers

Do you EVER get tired of making a fool of yourself?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right to work = choice for workers</p>
<p>Do you EVER get tired of making a fool of yourself?</p>
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		<title>By: Chem_Geek</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chem_Geek]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2014 05:33:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;right to work&quot; = right to mooch.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;right to work&#8221; = right to mooch.</p>
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		<title>By: Chem_Geek</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chem_Geek]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2014 05:32:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That is exactly correct - more immigrants = lower wages for American workers, more money stolen from the American worker and stuffed into the pockets of the 1%er CEO Managers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is exactly correct &#8211; more immigrants = lower wages for American workers, more money stolen from the American worker and stuffed into the pockets of the 1%er CEO Managers.</p>
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		<title>By: Chem_Geek</title>
		<link>http://legalinsurrection.com/2014/11/why-arent-house-republicans-suing-over-executive-amnesty/comment-page-1/#comment-554521</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chem_Geek]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2014 05:28:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Form I-129F, $340 - permission to apply for a fiancee visa. Form DS-160, $265 - application for a fiancee visa. Form I-485, $985 - adjustment of status from fiancee to spouse.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Form I-129F, $340 &#8211; permission to apply for a fiancee visa. Form DS-160, $265 &#8211; application for a fiancee visa. Form I-485, $985 &#8211; adjustment of status from fiancee to spouse.</p>
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		<title>By: Chem_Geek</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chem_Geek]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2014 05:22:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wrong.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Walker Evans</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Walker Evans]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2014 04:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here is another picture of Obama engaged in Constitutional scholarship:

http://www.theworldsbestever.com/2012/03/13/obamas-war-on-medical-marijuana/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is another picture of Obama engaged in Constitutional scholarship:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.theworldsbestever.com/2012/03/13/obamas-war-on-medical-marijuana/" rel="nofollow">http://www.theworldsbestever.com/2012/03/13/obamas-war-on-medical-marijuana/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2014 03:59:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In many jurisdictions a judge ruling on a preliminary or permanent injunction has to weigh factors including possible harm to the public. Will the DOInjustice argue that the illegal immigrants are the public?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In many jurisdictions a judge ruling on a preliminary or permanent injunction has to weigh factors including possible harm to the public. Will the DOInjustice argue that the illegal immigrants are the public?</p>
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		<title>By: Barry</title>
		<link>http://legalinsurrection.com/2014/11/why-arent-house-republicans-suing-over-executive-amnesty/comment-page-1/#comment-554510</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2014 03:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The gop leadership wants amnesty. Behind their faux outrage they are counting more dollars of personal gain. Which is why nothing will happen, just a bunch of talk/bluster and decade long court action. They can stop Obola anytime with the power of the purse, but they.will.not.do.it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The gop leadership wants amnesty. Behind their faux outrage they are counting more dollars of personal gain. Which is why nothing will happen, just a bunch of talk/bluster and decade long court action. They can stop Obola anytime with the power of the purse, but they.will.not.do.it.</p>
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		<title>By: TheFineReport.com</title>
		<link>http://legalinsurrection.com/2014/11/why-arent-house-republicans-suing-over-executive-amnesty/comment-page-1/#comment-554499</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TheFineReport.com]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2014 01:23:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Look for this putz Boehner to do nothing. Zero. Zip. 

Many of us believe Boehner has been extorted ever since he became Squeaker, which probably accounts for his outrageous selling out of the GOP base and enabling of President Ebola&#039;s outrageous acts. 

A weaklings and backstabbers like Boehner are easily corrupted, and he probably began being corrupted the day he was elected to Congress. A a-hole like him has probably committed &#039;light&#039; corruption a thousand times, and those acts are no secret to people likely holding them over his puny head. 

There is no real discussion of anything intelligent so long as this loser is tolerated by us as the most powerful people in the GOP&#039;s group of little girls hogging the GOP leadership.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look for this putz Boehner to do nothing. Zero. Zip. </p>
<p>Many of us believe Boehner has been extorted ever since he became Squeaker, which probably accounts for his outrageous selling out of the GOP base and enabling of President Ebola&#8217;s outrageous acts. </p>
<p>A weaklings and backstabbers like Boehner are easily corrupted, and he probably began being corrupted the day he was elected to Congress. A a-hole like him has probably committed &#8216;light&#8217; corruption a thousand times, and those acts are no secret to people likely holding them over his puny head. </p>
<p>There is no real discussion of anything intelligent so long as this loser is tolerated by us as the most powerful people in the GOP&#8217;s group of little girls hogging the GOP leadership.</p>
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		<title>By: dorsaighost</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dorsaighost]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2014 00:51:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[USCIS is self-funded ? no ...  actually they generate revenue and still cannot spend a dime that has not been appropriated by Congress ...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>USCIS is self-funded ? no &#8230;  actually they generate revenue and still cannot spend a dime that has not been appropriated by Congress &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck Skinner</title>
		<link>http://legalinsurrection.com/2014/11/why-arent-house-republicans-suing-over-executive-amnesty/comment-page-1/#comment-554491</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chuck Skinner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2014 00:20:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, a LOT, actually:

- an I-90 to replace or renew a &quot;Green Card&quot; (Permanent Lawful Resident Status Document) is $450.  It must be renewed every 10 years or be replaced if severely damaged.

- an N-400 to apply for Naturalization costs $595 + and $85 Biometric Fee if you are younger than 75 when you apply.

Note: you MUST have been a Green Card holder for at least 3 years PRIOR to applying for Naturalization.

So: Minimum cost in FEES alone is: $1,130 ($450 + $680).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, a LOT, actually:</p>
<p>&#8211; an I-90 to replace or renew a &#8220;Green Card&#8221; (Permanent Lawful Resident Status Document) is $450.  It must be renewed every 10 years or be replaced if severely damaged.</p>
<p>&#8211; an N-400 to apply for Naturalization costs $595 + and $85 Biometric Fee if you are younger than 75 when you apply.</p>
<p>Note: you MUST have been a Green Card holder for at least 3 years PRIOR to applying for Naturalization.</p>
<p>So: Minimum cost in FEES alone is: $1,130 ($450 + $680).</p>
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		<title>By: Ragspierre</title>
		<link>http://legalinsurrection.com/2014/11/why-arent-house-republicans-suing-over-executive-amnesty/comment-page-1/#comment-554490</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ragspierre]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2014 00:14:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OK.  Sinking.  In.

Again, I LIKE your thinking.  See some impediments, and a couple of actual flaws, but it is diabolical.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK.  Sinking.  In.</p>
<p>Again, I LIKE your thinking.  See some impediments, and a couple of actual flaws, but it is diabolical.</p>
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		<title>By: Anchovy</title>
		<link>http://legalinsurrection.com/2014/11/why-arent-house-republicans-suing-over-executive-amnesty/comment-page-1/#comment-554486</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anchovy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2014 23:41:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The point is to use the dialogue of the left against the left.  
Here&#039;s the deal... up until President Obama signed the new law it was against the law to hire these workers.  Institutional racism pure and simple.

Now we need to make up for past wrongs.  Level the playing field.  Increase diversity.  Best way to do that is get rid of &quot;Jim Crow&quot; type laws such as Davis-Bacon and closed shop laws.  Republicans need to convince America that these laws have been used to discriminate and to continue  institutional discrimination.  

Sitting around and throwing tantrums is not going to get us anywhere.  We are never going to deport 2, 5, 7 or 22 million people.  Forget it.  We need to make sure the pain is focused on those that have supported democrats and democrats policies.  Making all states right to work states and getting rid of Davis-Bacon would be a fair trade for this amnesty and it can be done using the language of the left.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The point is to use the dialogue of the left against the left.<br />
Here&#8217;s the deal&#8230; up until President Obama signed the new law it was against the law to hire these workers.  Institutional racism pure and simple.</p>
<p>Now we need to make up for past wrongs.  Level the playing field.  Increase diversity.  Best way to do that is get rid of &#8220;Jim Crow&#8221; type laws such as Davis-Bacon and closed shop laws.  Republicans need to convince America that these laws have been used to discriminate and to continue  institutional discrimination.  </p>
<p>Sitting around and throwing tantrums is not going to get us anywhere.  We are never going to deport 2, 5, 7 or 22 million people.  Forget it.  We need to make sure the pain is focused on those that have supported democrats and democrats policies.  Making all states right to work states and getting rid of Davis-Bacon would be a fair trade for this amnesty and it can be done using the language of the left.</p>
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		<title>By: Ragspierre</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ragspierre]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2014 22:49:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One other point of disagreement...

A carpenter&#039;s gang of all white, all black, all East Indian, all whatever...or any mix thereof...no freakin&#039; difference.

&quot;Diversity&quot; never drove a nail or sawed a stud.  It&#039;s all just guys (in the non-gender-specific).

But, yeah, the unions were a cess-pool of racism, which was one driver of &quot;solidarity&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One other point of disagreement&#8230;</p>
<p>A carpenter&#8217;s gang of all white, all black, all East Indian, all whatever&#8230;or any mix thereof&#8230;no freakin&#8217; difference.</p>
<p>&#8220;Diversity&#8221; never drove a nail or sawed a stud.  It&#8217;s all just guys (in the non-gender-specific).</p>
<p>But, yeah, the unions were a cess-pool of racism, which was one driver of &#8220;solidarity&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Ragspierre</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ragspierre]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2014 22:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with all that, with two caveats...

1. there was a time when union leaders did care about the rank and file.  Certainly not lately...

and

2. any apparent attack on Davis-Bacon (one of the MOST egregious Collectivist laws EVER) would congeal the unions like you&#039;ve never seen.  Maybe it&#039;s time for that.  Dunno.

One OTHER thing...we don neeed no steeeenken new workers, Looocy.  We NEED to create a climate where our UNEMPLOYED workers have the ability to work and regain their full citizenship.  (I know you know that.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with all that, with two caveats&#8230;</p>
<p>1. there was a time when union leaders did care about the rank and file.  Certainly not lately&#8230;</p>
<p>and</p>
<p>2. any apparent attack on Davis-Bacon (one of the MOST egregious Collectivist laws EVER) would congeal the unions like you&#8217;ve never seen.  Maybe it&#8217;s time for that.  Dunno.</p>
<p>One OTHER thing&#8230;we don neeed no steeeenken new workers, Looocy.  We NEED to create a climate where our UNEMPLOYED workers have the ability to work and regain their full citizenship.  (I know you know that.)</p>
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		<title>By: Anchovy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anchovy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2014 22:33:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is the union bosses that are pushing amnesty.  They do not and have never cared about the rank and file and this amnesty will hurt the rank and file.  The job of the Republicans is to make sure it hurts the rank and file and that they know who did it to them.

Non union contractors that hire these new workers should have the same bidding rights as union contractors.  Republicans need to push to get rid of the requirements of prevailing wage laws and closed shop laws in order for our new workers to have an opportunity to work and live the American dream.  

For far too many years the trades were closed to minorities.  Now it is time to level the playing field and give these new workers a fair chance to make up for lost opportunities.  Our strength is derived from a diverse workforce where workers who were formerly discriminated against by unions are granted priority in hiring until parity is reached.

Start by repealing Davis-Bacon and making all states right to work states.  It&#039;s for the new workers and their children.  Workplace diversity is our strength.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is the union bosses that are pushing amnesty.  They do not and have never cared about the rank and file and this amnesty will hurt the rank and file.  The job of the Republicans is to make sure it hurts the rank and file and that they know who did it to them.</p>
<p>Non union contractors that hire these new workers should have the same bidding rights as union contractors.  Republicans need to push to get rid of the requirements of prevailing wage laws and closed shop laws in order for our new workers to have an opportunity to work and live the American dream.  </p>
<p>For far too many years the trades were closed to minorities.  Now it is time to level the playing field and give these new workers a fair chance to make up for lost opportunities.  Our strength is derived from a diverse workforce where workers who were formerly discriminated against by unions are granted priority in hiring until parity is reached.</p>
<p>Start by repealing Davis-Bacon and making all states right to work states.  It&#8217;s for the new workers and their children.  Workplace diversity is our strength.</p>
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		<title>By: mathewsjw</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2014 22:21:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All Law Firms in DC Are Democrats is Why House (GOP) Not suing over executive amnesty or anything else]]></description>
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