Comments on: Don’t let liberal feminist “rape culture” theory get in the way of stopping rapes

By: Rand

Rand — Sat, 30 Aug 2014 22:06:44 +0000

I suspect that the hostility directed by radical feminists at this particular safety device has little to do with its practical value, and more to do with an ideology that is hostile to individual choice. Unless, of couse, they agree with what you choose.

By: GunnyZ

GunnyZ — Thu, 28 Aug 2014 20:06:29 +0000

therein lies the problem, one would have to acknowledge that evil exists in order to accept the need for precautions. That amount of cognitive dissonance is too discomforting.

By: Milhouse

Milhouse — Thu, 28 Aug 2014 08:24:08 +0000

Exactly. You have it nailed 100%. That is the radical feminist line on rape. Any attempt to lower the burglary rate just perpetuates burglary culture.

By: Milhouse

Milhouse — Thu, 28 Aug 2014 08:22:56 +0000

No, the extended logic of their claim would result in women behaving exactly as if there was no such thing as rape, or any other crime, and thus taking no measures whatsoever to protect themselves. It would result in women going everywhere naked and defenseless, getting drunk and flirting with any man who catches their fancy, without a thought for their safety. And it would result in a whole lot more rapes.

By: Milhouse

Milhouse — Thu, 28 Aug 2014 08:18:28 +0000

Yes, as I said, this product can only be aimed at responsible women, who drink only as much alcohol as they know they can handle; irresponsible women who drink too much alcohol would never bother with such devices anyway, no matter how available they were to be.

By: JackRussellTerrierist

JackRussellTerrierist — Thu, 28 Aug 2014 04:35:02 +0000

I got their point 100%.

What I really meant is that the interpretation, or extended logic, of their claim would result in women never going anywhere or doing anything rather than take a step to protect themselves.

I didn’t mean to imply THEY were saying this, but that that’s the logical upshot of their position, even though THEY don’t realize it They say they want the men who do these things controlled, but the REALITY is that women have to control it with measures such as the polish or what have you, 24/7, according to their theory of the rampancy of incidents.

By: Henry Hawkins

Henry Hawkins — Wed, 27 Aug 2014 23:29:54 +0000

Actually, life is a carnival, two bits a shot.

By: Henry Hawkins

Henry Hawkins — Wed, 27 Aug 2014 19:34:15 +0000

Dear Sociology Major in Room 3,

BOYCOTT ISRAEL!

Signed,
– Campus Advisor

By: Henry Hawkins

Henry Hawkins — Wed, 27 Aug 2014 19:32:27 +0000

The most commonly used date rape drugs are soporific on their own, but mixed with even a responsible amount of alcohol the combined effect is multiplied beyond the sum of both, called the synergistic effect.

Therefore, even women drinking responsibly could benefit from the nail polish detection device.

By: Archer

Archer — Wed, 27 Aug 2014 18:37:22 +0000

It said in the article that every one of the four inventors knows someone who's been sexually assaulted and/or date-raped. They have a vested interest, not for themselves, but for their friends/families. I know more than a few engineers. They see problems, and think of solutions. These four took the initiative, created a solution (not the solution, but a solution) to a problem, and might be able to market a profitable product around it. What's odd about this? Is it that the inventors have penises instead of vaginas (men get sexually assaulted too, y'know; it's less common, but it happens), or is it that they're marketing it instead of giving away the fruit of their labor for free? Please explain.

By: Archer

Archer — Wed, 27 Aug 2014 18:30:30 +0000

“If “Women’s Studies” majors were to stop their b!#@#ing and moaning and begin to focus on pursuing the careers and the skills that pay good dividends in the future instead of crying like Victorian-era banshees…”

… then they wouldn’t be “Women’s Studies” majors.

By: n.n

n.n — Wed, 27 Aug 2014 15:56:23 +0000

Life is an exercise in risk management. People should welcome non-intrusive tools and methods to mitigate risk. The “nail polish” litmus test is a welcome addition.

By: Phillep Harding

Phillep Harding — Wed, 27 Aug 2014 15:41:04 +0000

An engineering nerd is going to feel good about a woman he’d like to date being date raped?

By: Milhouse

Milhouse — Wed, 27 Aug 2014 15:40:04 +0000

No, you don't get their point at all. What they're saying is that the problem of rape needs to be addressed at its root. Women get raped, not because they were vulnerable, but because rapists exist. If there were no "rape culture", women wouldn't need to worry about it, and wouldn't need to do anything to avoid it. After all, nobody worries about having frogs thrown at them, or takes any steps to protect themselves from it, since it never occurs to anyone to do such a thing in the first place; if rape were like that, there would be no problem. Since the rapists are the ones who create the problem, the onus of fixing it should be on them, and not on anyone else. To see what nonsense this is, just read it again, substituting "car theft" for "rape". Yes, if there were no car thieves we could all leave our cars unlocked, and not bother with steering wheel locks, or lo-jack, etc. But there are car thieves, so we do need to take all these precautions, and someone who leaves their key in the ignition and has their car stolen doesn't get much sympathy from normal people. Saying that the root of the problem is the existence of car thieves is true but useless.

By: Phillep Harding

Phillep Harding — Wed, 27 Aug 2014 15:34:29 +0000

(Cough, cough) (Rolls eyes)

By: Milhouse

Milhouse — Wed, 27 Aug 2014 15:30:30 +0000

Gawd you’re dumb. Olinser is exactly right. The most common “date rape drug” is alcohol, not any fancy additives. A woman who willingly drinks an excessive does of alcohol doesn’t need to worry about other drugs.

Of course one difference is that a responsible woman can control her dose of alcohol, but not her dose of whatever additives someone might have put in it. So a device such as this makes sense for such women. And really it’s aimed only at them, because irresponsible women wouldn’t bother with such devices anyway.

By: Henry Hawkins

Henry Hawkins — Wed, 27 Aug 2014 15:18:17 +0000

Engineering students invented this. That population is heavily male. Enrollment is voluntary. Few females enroll. Most male students have mothers, sisters, aunts, and many have daughters. These particular students are at ground zero for the dating scene.

What you find odd may say more about you than about men.

By: peg_c

peg_c — Wed, 27 Aug 2014 13:23:11 +0000

I also find it odd in the extreme that men invented this. Most men never even think of date rape at all unless they have college-aged daughters.

By: peg_c

peg_c — Wed, 27 Aug 2014 13:21:36 +0000

Binge drinking and the “hook-up” culture are both contributors. Young women on campus too often treat themselves extremely cheaply and wonder why so many guys do the same.

By: theduchessofkitty

theduchessofkitty — Wed, 27 Aug 2014 13:18:24 +0000

Don’t y’all think there’s another reason the feminist crowd is upset about this? Look at the names of the students involved in the invention: Stephen Gray, Ankesh Madan, Tasso Von Windheim and Tyler Confrey-Maloney.

All men.

And Engineering majors, no less.

If “Women’s Studies” majors were to stop their b!#@#ing and moaning and begin to focus on pursuing the careers and the skills that pay good dividends in the future instead of crying like Victorian-era banshees, they would have come up with ideas like this one.

Note: I speak as a graduate from a women’s college.