Comments on: “Death Valley” for Yazidis in Northern Iraq

By: Guy

Guy — Tue, 12 Aug 2014 12:34:45 +0000

OK the world is bullsh*t. So tell me why are there a few thousand people on that mountain? Sun tans?

By: Guy

Guy — Tue, 12 Aug 2014 12:28:22 +0000

Apparently people need to know what in the hell is going on. So here it is. First – Obama favors ISIS.

But this does not mean that it will always be practicable for him to support them as much as he would like. So from time to time he will have to take a step back and appear to be working against ISIS, helping the victims of ISIS, and even aiding the enemies of ISIS (aka Kurds).

You can take it to the bank that the attacks on ISIS won’t be enough to even put a dent in ISIS, the protection offered the victims would be enough to stop the genocide, and the supplies to the Kurds won’t be enough to make a difference either.

If you think me wrong – just wait.

Here is the administration policy – ISIS wins.

Remember Lenin – you sometimes have to take two steps back to move forward again.

By: aerily

aerily — Tue, 12 Aug 2014 02:36:01 +0000

humanitarian aid is routinely dropped freefall. LFD (lightweight food delivery) is usually done using the TRIADS system in which cardboard pallets are attached to the overhead cables by static line causing the pallets to break apart in the air as they exit the plane. The food rations are packed in plastic and will flutter to the ground like a leaflet. http://www.loadmasters.com/loader_issues/Loader_15Nov01.pdf

some video from 2009 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCxwprZekpM

and another https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LF2SVeK-WSo

I’m not as familiar with how water drops are being handled currently but it was my understanding circa 2001 that it was normally dropped by parachute in honeycomb cardboard wrapped plastic drums.

By: BannedbytheGuardian

BannedbytheGuardian — Tue, 12 Aug 2014 01:37:33 +0000

I am calling bullshit on a lot of this . In the Daily Mail I recognised the same old lady in 40% of the photos accompanying different children with various bandages on their heads ( for no obvious injury) . Then there she was laden- ing down some poor donkey Loki g every bit the refugee. It is very similar tactics to the Albanian grannies drama. Also like Kosovo , only the fairest of the children get front feature .

Firstly they are said to be surrounded by ISIS who are at the base . Then we have pics of the Peshmerga bravely aiding their escape on tractors etc . Shock photos of Yazidis being buried alive are those of about 30 walking across a Sandy landscape – nothing is like the titles of articles & sub titles of pics suggest . One pic has a Yazidis girl who escaped up the mountain being carried out wearing pump shoes with Cuban heels!

I admit it is a very good story though – I’m just not buying it .

By: Archer

Archer — Mon, 11 Aug 2014 19:31:02 +0000

I can see the spox for the Obama Admin coming out and saying, “We delivered aid, but it’s not our fault that they couldn’t catch what we dropped for them. Once it’s out of the airplane, it’s not our responsibility. The previous Administration chose not to invest in drop-proof crates or proper parachutes – you can take that up with them.”

By: Uncle Samuel

Uncle Samuel — Mon, 11 Aug 2014 18:23:18 +0000

Correct link – http://yidwithlid.blogspot.com/2014/08/al-qaeda-said-isis-was-too-brutal-21.html

Both links are eye-openers.

By: Uncle Samuel

Uncle Samuel — Mon, 11 Aug 2014 18:22:18 +0000

ISIS too brutal even for Bin Laden/Al Queda – 21 page report found in Bin Laden’s hideout:
http://elderofziyon.blogspot.com/2014/08/850-terrorist-rockets-landed-in-gaza.html#.U-kHankg99A

By: lindy2

lindy2 — Mon, 11 Aug 2014 17:14:42 +0000

A poster on a previous thread – “I believe it was Kurtis Fechtmayer – said it best. There is no point in rationalizing anything that Obama, Kerry or Hillary may do in terms of acting with the best interests of the US. This indeed, is pointless.
This post by Scott is all you need to know. This man is a Communist; a radical left and Muslim sympathizer, a person dedicated to destroying this country internally by killing its spirit, corrupting its institutions, and stomping on the spirit and hope of its citizens. He has been successful in accomplishing this due to the lack of any credible and sustained political opposition. The opposition, such that it is, is led by men with no imagination or guiding principles, and is frozen with fear and trepidation at the thought of going against a black president.”

This quote form Power Line says it all for me … I’m hoping you guys who know your trade right are correct, but this adm of ob would be cynical or diabolic enough to drop relief to explode.

By: Browndog

Browndog — Mon, 11 Aug 2014 17:12:38 +0000

Here’s the video of the air drop.

Possibly an Iraqi operation, Not U.S. Video footage shot by U.S. drone.

The last few seconds clearly show them dropping low altitude exploding water/food bombs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrdkqGKLccg#t=293

By: Browndog

Browndog — Mon, 11 Aug 2014 15:07:32 +0000

Call me skeptical.

First of all, the CIA could have contracted out some of the air drop to some cheeseball U.N. affiliate out of Turkey.

Obama never does anything militarily to be effective. Minimal and feckless; it’s only the talking point that matters. “We delivered aid.”

Secondly, I read the other day that C-17’s out of S. Carolina delivered the aid. Really? REALLY?? Again, if true, feckless.

Lastly, tired of watching F-18’s flown from the carrier in the Mediterranean drop a couple bombs on two guys in a Toyota, and Chuck Hagle says the bombing campaign has been “effective. A million dollars of “defense” to neutralize 34 cents worth of “offense”. Very effective indeed.

By: Ragspierre

Ragspierre — Mon, 11 Aug 2014 14:10:18 +0000

My thinking, too. Every loadmaster I’ve known was a consummate professional.

If stuff is dropped from a Spit-Hook, it is dropped from a very low altitude, or it is set down and released.

By: PersonFromPorlock

PersonFromPorlock — Mon, 11 Aug 2014 14:07:13 +0000

I notice that in that video of the helicopter mission, the 20 Iraqi refugees who manage to get aboard are mostly young men. Apparently no ‘women and children first’ rule, there.

By: inspectorudy

inspectorudy — Mon, 11 Aug 2014 13:55:24 +0000

I hope you are correct. Helicopters do not drop with chutes and my fear is that they misjudged their angle of drop. As an old fighter/bomber pilot I can tell you that if you are trying to hit a target on a mountain top and miss high by one inch, the bomb will travel DOWN the entire length of the mountain before it explodes on the ground below. Depending on how tall the mountain is plus the height of the drop you can end up with some pretty big misses.

By: Bones

Bones — Mon, 11 Aug 2014 13:47:36 +0000

They’re full of it. We don’t drop supplies from 15k without parachutes… And our riggers and loadmasters know their craft well enough that the parachutes actually open.

No parachutes? What a stupid thing to claim.