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	<title>Comments on: (UPDATE: Stay Granted) D.C. Seeks Stay of Federal Court Order Allowing Handgun Carry</title>
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		<title>By: randian</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[randian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2014 04:42:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How can it take 90 days to get something done? Surely 30 is sufficient.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How can it take 90 days to get something done? Surely 30 is sufficient.</p>
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		<title>By: LordSega</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LordSega]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2014 03:43:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Legal question... I understand if a law is ruled &quot;overly broad&quot; or &quot;poorly written&quot; or &quot;open to interpretation&quot; and is ruled unenforceable until the legislators can correct the mistakes or re-write the law that a stay in the ruling may be appropriate. But, I thought when a law is found to be unconstitutional that it is null and void, as if it had never been written. If so, how can a judge stay (keep it active and &quot;on the books&quot;) an unconstitutional law?

16Am Jur 2d., Sec. 256:
&quot;The general rule is that a unconstitutional statute, whether Federal or State, though having the form and  name of law as in reality no law, but is wholly void and ineffective for any purpose since unconstitutionality dates  from the enactment and not merrily from the date of the decision so braining it. An unconstitutional law in legal  contemplation is as inoperative as if it never had been passed. Such a statute lives a question that is purports to settle just as it would be had the statute not ever been enacted. No repeal of an enactment is necessary, since an  unconstitutional law is void. The general principles follows that it imposes no duty, converse no rights, creates no  office, bestows no power of authority on anyone, affords no protection and justifies no acts performed under it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Legal question&#8230; I understand if a law is ruled &#8220;overly broad&#8221; or &#8220;poorly written&#8221; or &#8220;open to interpretation&#8221; and is ruled unenforceable until the legislators can correct the mistakes or re-write the law that a stay in the ruling may be appropriate. But, I thought when a law is found to be unconstitutional that it is null and void, as if it had never been written. If so, how can a judge stay (keep it active and &#8220;on the books&#8221;) an unconstitutional law?</p>
<p>16Am Jur 2d., Sec. 256:<br />
&#8220;The general rule is that a unconstitutional statute, whether Federal or State, though having the form and  name of law as in reality no law, but is wholly void and ineffective for any purpose since unconstitutionality dates  from the enactment and not merrily from the date of the decision so braining it. An unconstitutional law in legal  contemplation is as inoperative as if it never had been passed. Such a statute lives a question that is purports to settle just as it would be had the statute not ever been enacted. No repeal of an enactment is necessary, since an  unconstitutional law is void. The general principles follows that it imposes no duty, converse no rights, creates no  office, bestows no power of authority on anyone, affords no protection and justifies no acts performed under it.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkS</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MarkS]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2014 21:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Should Adam Kokesh be breathing a sigh of relief?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Should Adam Kokesh be breathing a sigh of relief?</p>
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		<title>By: MarkS</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MarkS]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2014 21:31:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The prospect of which is more frightening only because Carl Rowan is on the other side of the grass!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The prospect of which is more frightening only because Carl Rowan is on the other side of the grass!</p>
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		<title>By: 4fun</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[4fun]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2014 20:47:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When guns are outlawed, only the government will have guns.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When guns are outlawed, only the government will have guns.</p>
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		<title>By: bobfrommosinee</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bobfrommosinee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2014 20:19:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Excuse me, 180 day to come up with a system so convoluted that it will take another 4 years in court to have it over turned by a Federal Judge.

They already had 4 years to come into compliance with the previous Supreme Court Ruling, So why should then now be allowed another 180 days to screw up the Constitutional Rights of the DC residents and visitors again?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excuse me, 180 day to come up with a system so convoluted that it will take another 4 years in court to have it over turned by a Federal Judge.</p>
<p>They already had 4 years to come into compliance with the previous Supreme Court Ruling, So why should then now be allowed another 180 days to screw up the Constitutional Rights of the DC residents and visitors again?</p>
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		<title>By: AZ_Langer</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AZ_Langer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2014 19:18:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dick Gregory or David Gregory?  Or are you using the first to fairly accurately describe the second?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dick Gregory or David Gregory?  Or are you using the first to fairly accurately describe the second?</p>
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		<title>By: MrE</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MrE]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2014 18:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Crime rates go down in DC whenever congress goes on recess.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Crime rates go down in DC whenever congress goes on recess.</p>
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		<title>By: MrE</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MrE]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2014 18:31:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Judge in Colorado was probably Rocky Mountain high.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Judge in Colorado was probably Rocky Mountain high.</p>
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		<title>By: PersonFromPorlock</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PersonFromPorlock]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2014 17:08:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ultimately, we have a government of neither laws nor men, but of Anthony Kennedy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ultimately, we have a government of neither laws nor men, but of Anthony Kennedy.</p>
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		<title>By: Loren</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Loren]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2014 16:39:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And if they leave it alone, and nothing changes for the worse?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And if they leave it alone, and nothing changes for the worse?</p>
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		<title>By: TrooperJohnSmith</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TrooperJohnSmith]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2014 15:59:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When guns are outlawed, only Carl Rowan will have guns.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When guns are outlawed, only Carl Rowan will have guns.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkS</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MarkS]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2014 15:44:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Speaking of 30 rounders, a Federal judge ruled that NY couldn&#039;t ban them and another ruled that Colorado could.  Do we have a different US Constitution for different parts of the country?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of 30 rounders, a Federal judge ruled that NY couldn&#8217;t ban them and another ruled that Colorado could.  Do we have a different US Constitution for different parts of the country?</p>
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		<title>By: platypus</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[platypus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2014 14:04:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Uh, what happens if crime rates go down in D.C.? Seems to me that that possibility is already causing leftists to have both heartburn and insomnia.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh, what happens if crime rates go down in D.C.? Seems to me that that possibility is already causing leftists to have both heartburn and insomnia.</p>
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		<title>By: platypus</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[platypus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2014 14:01:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That is exactly the kind of comment that makes this blog a joy. Don&#039;t stop!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is exactly the kind of comment that makes this blog a joy. Don&#8217;t stop!</p>
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		<title>By: Exiliado</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Exiliado]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2014 13:58:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sore losers want a chance to continue violating the second amendment for another 6 months.
Even 90 days seems too long to me.

All they have to do is copy and enact &quot;gun carry licensing mechanism&quot; from one of several states that abide by the Constitution.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sore losers want a chance to continue violating the second amendment for another 6 months.<br />
Even 90 days seems too long to me.</p>
<p>All they have to do is copy and enact &#8220;gun carry licensing mechanism&#8221; from one of several states that abide by the Constitution.</p>
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		<title>By: georgfelis</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[georgfelis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2014 13:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Key Phrase: &quot;However, District residents are still PROHIBITED from possessing a firearm that is not legally registered in the District.”

Being as that registration process is somewhat akin to becoming a Jedi Master (As documented by Emily below), that would seem to mean that a DC resident is going to have exactly the same giant ball of paperwork to push eternally up the hill as before, while an out of state resident might just possibly be able to drive through the district with an empty shell casing in their car without fear of being thrown in jail for ten years.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/guns/2011/oct/5/miller-emily-gets-her-gun/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Key Phrase: &#8220;However, District residents are still PROHIBITED from possessing a firearm that is not legally registered in the District.”</p>
<p>Being as that registration process is somewhat akin to becoming a Jedi Master (As documented by Emily below), that would seem to mean that a DC resident is going to have exactly the same giant ball of paperwork to push eternally up the hill as before, while an out of state resident might just possibly be able to drive through the district with an empty shell casing in their car without fear of being thrown in jail for ten years.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/guns/2011/oct/5/miller-emily-gets-her-gun/" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/guns/2011/oct/5/miller-emily-gets-her-gun/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Branca</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrew Branca]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2014 13:56:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;When 30-round magazine clips are outlawed, Dick Gregory will have one.&quot; 

That would be the Dick Gregory rumored to be under psychiatric evaluation by his employer? 

The irony. Delicious. :-)

--Andrew, @LawSelfDefense]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;When 30-round magazine clips are outlawed, Dick Gregory will have one.&#8221; </p>
<p>That would be the Dick Gregory rumored to be under psychiatric evaluation by his employer? </p>
<p>The irony. Delicious. <img src="http://legalinsurrection.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":-)" class="wp-smiley" /></p>
<p>&#8211;Andrew, @LawSelfDefense</p>
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		<title>By: walls</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[walls]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2014 13:53:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When 30-round magazine clips are outlawed, Dick Gregory will have one.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When 30-round magazine clips are outlawed, Dick Gregory will have one.</p>
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		<title>By: sequester</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sequester]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2014 13:25:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When guns are outlawed, only outlaws have guns.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When guns are outlawed, only outlaws have guns.</p>
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