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	<title>Comments on: As the hard drive turns: Lois Lerner&#8217;s on again, off again, scratchy</title>
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		<title>By: Aussie</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aussie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2014 21:46:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nope. The ATO seems to behave itself even if most of them belong to the union. 

We do not have the same kind of laws and the ATO does not have the power to do what Lerner did. 

I was talking more about the people at the top of the tree and I was talking about the cover up. The cover-up is the true scandal and that includes the complicity of the LSM.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nope. The ATO seems to behave itself even if most of them belong to the union. </p>
<p>We do not have the same kind of laws and the ATO does not have the power to do what Lerner did. </p>
<p>I was talking more about the people at the top of the tree and I was talking about the cover up. The cover-up is the true scandal and that includes the complicity of the LSM.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2014 15:52:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Don&#039;t give up hope that some recalcitrant IT tech stuck these in a drawer to hang Lerner and crew out to dry later.

Infighting in places like this can be an interesting thing.

I would have done exactly that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t give up hope that some recalcitrant IT tech stuck these in a drawer to hang Lerner and crew out to dry later.</p>
<p>Infighting in places like this can be an interesting thing.</p>
<p>I would have done exactly that.</p>
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		<title>By: gettimothy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gettimothy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2014 01:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Looking at  K I think he realizes he is in deep shit and that Gowdy knows it. K also knows that Gowdy is not fcking around. 


Have you ever seen the TED talk on &lt;a href=&quot;http://liespotting.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Lie Spotting? &lt;/a&gt;

In the TED talk by the author, one tell was &quot;distancing language&quot;. K used that quite a bit early in his replies to Gowdy]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looking at  K I think he realizes he is in deep shit and that Gowdy knows it. K also knows that Gowdy is not fcking around. </p>
<p>Have you ever seen the TED talk on <a href="http://liespotting.com/" rel="nofollow">Lie Spotting? </a></p>
<p>In the TED talk by the author, one tell was &#8220;distancing language&#8221;. K used that quite a bit early in his replies to Gowdy</p>
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		<title>By: gettimothy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gettimothy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2014 01:07:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[as Speaker of the House]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>as Speaker of the House</p>
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		<title>By: Not A Member of Any Organized Political</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Not A Member of Any Organized Political]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2014 23:06:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Excuse me, but I find mentioning the IRS and &quot;holes in the ground&quot; together to be very insulting to 
&quot;holes in the ground!&quot;

And that&#039;s the &quot;hole&quot; truth!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excuse me, but I find mentioning the IRS and &#8220;holes in the ground&#8221; together to be very insulting to<br />
&#8220;holes in the ground!&#8221;</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s the &#8220;hole&#8221; truth!</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2014 17:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[She knows she has to try to stall until the end of Barry&#039;s term and then hope she&#039;s on the list of pardons.  I have a feeling that list is going to be very, very long.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She knows she has to try to stall until the end of Barry&#8217;s term and then hope she&#8217;s on the list of pardons.  I have a feeling that list is going to be very, very long.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt_SE</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt_SE]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2014 16:43:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Consider all the personnel and careers that are at stake here, not to mention the power and electoral fortunes of the Democratic party, as well as the money.

Lois Lerner has been told if she &quot;squeals&quot; that she will meet with an unfortunate accident. And just like the hard drives, who will be in a position to investigate the mysterious circumstances?

So Lerner&#039;s choice is, &quot;jail time or death.&quot; Which do you think she&#039;ll take?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Consider all the personnel and careers that are at stake here, not to mention the power and electoral fortunes of the Democratic party, as well as the money.</p>
<p>Lois Lerner has been told if she &#8220;squeals&#8221; that she will meet with an unfortunate accident. And just like the hard drives, who will be in a position to investigate the mysterious circumstances?</p>
<p>So Lerner&#8217;s choice is, &#8220;jail time or death.&#8221; Which do you think she&#8217;ll take?</p>
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		<title>By: Archer</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Archer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2014 16:10:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wish he could pick up the pace a bit, too, but understand: he&#039;s the Chairman of Committee on Gov&#039;t Oversight &amp; Reform, &lt;b&gt;in addition to&lt;/b&gt; other Committees he&#039;s on.

But even if Chairman of Oversight were his only duty, he&#039;s got:
- Fast &amp; Furious
- Benghazi
- VA
- NSA spying
- DoJ stealing AP reporters&#039; phone records
and more, &lt;b&gt;plus&lt;/b&gt; the IRS investigation.  The man has his work cut out for him!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish he could pick up the pace a bit, too, but understand: he&#8217;s the Chairman of Committee on Gov&#8217;t Oversight &amp; Reform, <b>in addition to</b> other Committees he&#8217;s on.</p>
<p>But even if Chairman of Oversight were his only duty, he&#8217;s got:<br />
&#8211; Fast &amp; Furious<br />
&#8211; Benghazi<br />
&#8211; VA<br />
&#8211; NSA spying<br />
&#8211; DoJ stealing AP reporters&#8217; phone records<br />
and more, <b>plus</b> the IRS investigation.  The man has his work cut out for him!</p>
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		<title>By: Archer</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Archer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2014 15:57:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;&quot;How close is the Obama IRS to a criminal enterprise?&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

One broken kneecap.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;How close is the Obama IRS to a criminal enterprise?&#8221;</i></p>
<p>One broken kneecap.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2014 15:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The damn hard drive is a red herring.  Large corporate email systems are comprised of &quot;mail clients&quot; and &quot;mail servers&quot;.  The hard drive in question is from Lerner&#039;s personal computer which runs her copy of the &quot;mail client.&quot;  The &quot;mail client&quot; sends messages through and receives messages from the &quot;mail server&quot; which is a big honking machine (or cluster of them) that has highly redundant disk configurations and is covered by corporate data backup and recovery policies.

You could go around the office and smash the hard drives in all the PCs and the desks and not lose email from the servers.  You could go smash the servers and not lose the emails from the backup tapes of the servers.

Further, by law Lerner was required to keep paper copies of these emails.  Where are those?

Further, the committee wants to see emails exchanged with certain other government offices, right?   Then subpoena THEIR email records as each office has it&#039;s own client/server setup as described above...the emails in question reside in those systems as well.

Email simply does not just &quot;disappear&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The damn hard drive is a red herring.  Large corporate email systems are comprised of &#8220;mail clients&#8221; and &#8220;mail servers&#8221;.  The hard drive in question is from Lerner&#8217;s personal computer which runs her copy of the &#8220;mail client.&#8221;  The &#8220;mail client&#8221; sends messages through and receives messages from the &#8220;mail server&#8221; which is a big honking machine (or cluster of them) that has highly redundant disk configurations and is covered by corporate data backup and recovery policies.</p>
<p>You could go around the office and smash the hard drives in all the PCs and the desks and not lose email from the servers.  You could go smash the servers and not lose the emails from the backup tapes of the servers.</p>
<p>Further, by law Lerner was required to keep paper copies of these emails.  Where are those?</p>
<p>Further, the committee wants to see emails exchanged with certain other government offices, right?   Then subpoena THEIR email records as each office has it&#8217;s own client/server setup as described above&#8230;the emails in question reside in those systems as well.</p>
<p>Email simply does not just &#8220;disappear&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: harleycowboy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[harleycowboy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2014 15:11:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Now that they&#039;ve found out that the hard drive is recoverable they&#039;ve concocted the story that they &quot;discarded&quot; it. If you can find Jimmy Hoffa, he&#039;ll be holding a hard drive.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that they&#8217;ve found out that the hard drive is recoverable they&#8217;ve concocted the story that they &#8220;discarded&#8221; it. If you can find Jimmy Hoffa, he&#8217;ll be holding a hard drive.</p>
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		<title>By: Exiliado</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Exiliado]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2014 14:13:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hopefully]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hopefully</p>
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		<title>By: rorschach256</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rorschach256]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2014 12:32:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I suspect that Gowdy et al have a cache of SOME of the incriminating emails they haven&#039;t revealed yet and they are waiting to see what the IRS coughs up in order to use that as a check to make sure they were given all of it. the IRS likely knows or suspects this, and not knowing which emails they have, they can&#039;t afford to filter them without some kind of excuse. being able to claim that not all of the emails were recoverable gives them just such an excuse.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suspect that Gowdy et al have a cache of SOME of the incriminating emails they haven&#8217;t revealed yet and they are waiting to see what the IRS coughs up in order to use that as a check to make sure they were given all of it. the IRS likely knows or suspects this, and not knowing which emails they have, they can&#8217;t afford to filter them without some kind of excuse. being able to claim that not all of the emails were recoverable gives them just such an excuse.</p>
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		<title>By: rorschach256</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rorschach256]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2014 12:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[im guessing that Lerner and her crew all took thier laptops and dropped them down a stairwell or something in order that all their hard drives would &quot;crash&quot; at the bottom, with the expectation that their senority would shield them from questions about the sudden rash of broken laptops, while relying on IRS SOP to make sure to destroy evidence.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>im guessing that Lerner and her crew all took thier laptops and dropped them down a stairwell or something in order that all their hard drives would &#8220;crash&#8221; at the bottom, with the expectation that their senority would shield them from questions about the sudden rash of broken laptops, while relying on IRS SOP to make sure to destroy evidence.</p>
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		<title>By: Elliott</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Elliott]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2014 11:32:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Since they have to give detailed statements to two federal courts, UNDER OATH, which are due to be turned into the courts in a couple of weeks, Congress has their names. I expect some surprises in the statements and the possible testimony. Possible surprises: printouts of illegal orders given to them, threats of reprisal, transfers to overseas details, screaming and frothing by IRS lawyers, bizarre personnel actions, etc.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since they have to give detailed statements to two federal courts, UNDER OATH, which are due to be turned into the courts in a couple of weeks, Congress has their names. I expect some surprises in the statements and the possible testimony. Possible surprises: printouts of illegal orders given to them, threats of reprisal, transfers to overseas details, screaming and frothing by IRS lawyers, bizarre personnel actions, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Merlin01</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Merlin01]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2014 11:31:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The bus is being warmed up to throw Lois under it.  If she had a brain (which it appears she does not) she would take her immunity very quickly because the administration is stringing her along just waiting for the right moment to back up the bus over her!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The bus is being warmed up to throw Lois under it.  If she had a brain (which it appears she does not) she would take her immunity very quickly because the administration is stringing her along just waiting for the right moment to back up the bus over her!</p>
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		<title>By: imfine</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[imfine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2014 10:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You would think they would straight up filter the emails they see giving congress rather than come up with elaborate and absurd excuses as to why they couldn&#039;t recover the emails.  This is probably the worst coverup I have ever seen.  I think jail is the key to breaking this ring.  When the imminent expectation of getting locked up by a federal judge rears it&#039;s ugly head progress gets made.  It&#039;s most silly to see all these people fold so quickly.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You would think they would straight up filter the emails they see giving congress rather than come up with elaborate and absurd excuses as to why they couldn&#8217;t recover the emails.  This is probably the worst coverup I have ever seen.  I think jail is the key to breaking this ring.  When the imminent expectation of getting locked up by a federal judge rears it&#8217;s ugly head progress gets made.  It&#8217;s most silly to see all these people fold so quickly.</p>
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		<title>By: DINORightMarie</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DINORightMarie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2014 10:23:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Given the gross incompetence, at best, of the IRS, I see no better solution than to close it down.  Period.  Flat tax for all, IMHO, would eliminate the need for such a huge, powerful bureaucracy.

This administration demonstrates, clearly, that the DoJ and the other massive, powerful bureaus, should NOT all be under the Executive branch.  Holder is an Obama appointee (all AG&#039;s are selected by the sitting POTUS).  Holder reports to Obama, the POTUS.  The IRS head, as well, is appointed by POTUS and reports directly to POTUS.

There is a natural, inborn tendency - out of loyalty, at least - that they would both do whatever their boss says and defy the &quot;outsiders&quot; trying to get to the truth - Congress.  Put in deceitful, nefarious leftist ideologues, and....well, you see where that takes us.

Dismantle the bureaucracy, remove most of the power problems with the Executive Branch.

Now if only we can get Congress to do this!  And take control of that &quot;pen and phone&quot; &quot;do it on my own&quot; unconstitutional power-grabbing guy at the top, via the impeachment process.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Given the gross incompetence, at best, of the IRS, I see no better solution than to close it down.  Period.  Flat tax for all, IMHO, would eliminate the need for such a huge, powerful bureaucracy.</p>
<p>This administration demonstrates, clearly, that the DoJ and the other massive, powerful bureaus, should NOT all be under the Executive branch.  Holder is an Obama appointee (all AG&#8217;s are selected by the sitting POTUS).  Holder reports to Obama, the POTUS.  The IRS head, as well, is appointed by POTUS and reports directly to POTUS.</p>
<p>There is a natural, inborn tendency &#8211; out of loyalty, at least &#8211; that they would both do whatever their boss says and defy the &#8220;outsiders&#8221; trying to get to the truth &#8211; Congress.  Put in deceitful, nefarious leftist ideologues, and&#8230;.well, you see where that takes us.</p>
<p>Dismantle the bureaucracy, remove most of the power problems with the Executive Branch.</p>
<p>Now if only we can get Congress to do this!  And take control of that &#8220;pen and phone&#8221; &#8220;do it on my own&#8221; unconstitutional power-grabbing guy at the top, via the impeachment process.</p>
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		<title>By: imfine</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[imfine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2014 10:19:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually nothing they have said makes any sense from a technical perspective.  It&#039;s pretty much absurd.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually nothing they have said makes any sense from a technical perspective.  It&#8217;s pretty much absurd.</p>
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		<title>By: Gremlin1974</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gremlin1974]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2014 05:44:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Amen! From your mouth to God&#039;s ear my friend.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen! From your mouth to God&#8217;s ear my friend.</p>
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