Comments on: Soldiers speak out about Bergdahl as military promises “thorough” review

By: JackRussellTerrierist

JackRussellTerrierist — Fri, 06 Jun 2014 06:10:48 +0000

The perverted scum will say and do anything to cover their asses. obastard threw his own grandmother under the bus. Now his mouthpieces are throwing Bergdahl’s entire unit under the bus. They aren’t fit to crawl on their bellies in the presence of our soldiers.

By: Henry Hawkins

Henry Hawkins — Thu, 05 Jun 2014 18:23:10 +0000

Whenever you hear from this administration that: “We need to reserve judgment and let the investigation go forward before we, blah, blah, blah,” it is just a delay tactic in hopes the news cycle will rotate and new events will supercede the old in the headlines. With a 90% Probama Media, it works.

By: Sanddog

Sanddog — Thu, 05 Jun 2014 13:42:05 +0000

I’m under no obligation to withhold judgement.

There is no justifiable reason for walking off post and putting yourself in the arms of the Taliban. I don’t care if he was having a bad week or second thoughts about joining up. There are a shitload of current and former soldiers/sailors/airmen/marines who at one point or another had doubts about what they were doing or why they had joined up. THEY pushed on through, honored the terms of their contracts and didn’t deliberately put their fellow men/women in danger. Military and civilian culture aren’t the same. I’m not judging Bergdahl by civilian standards, I’m judging him as a soldier.

By: dmacleo

dmacleo — Thu, 05 Jun 2014 13:14:00 +0000

my reply

https://twitter.com/conserv_voice/status/474532133927526400

By: Uncle Samuel

Uncle Samuel — Thu, 05 Jun 2014 12:01:35 +0000

Evidently, Bergdahl’s file has been scrubbed. – According to Saxby Chambliss, there is no record of desertion.

By: JohnC

JohnC — Thu, 05 Jun 2014 11:49:38 +0000

Obama and his people play with people’s minds. Gaslighting, manipulation, etc. They have finally walked into an area where they don’t understand how people will react. Obama despises the military and everything it represents. None of his people have ever had anything to do with the military nor have any of their friends or their parents. They don’t ‘get’ military people. They assume military matters are just like everything else; ‘find the crack, reach in and tune it to our channel. Then watch people dance.’

Their Machiavellian psychological models and flowcharts are coming up with the wrong answers.

By: CaliforniaJimbo

CaliforniaJimbo — Thu, 05 Jun 2014 11:42:34 +0000

Interesting. I also recall PLD c (primary leadership development course) being a requirement prior to E-5. The only exception I recall we’re those selected to go into OCS. They received automatic E-5 promotions. PLDC was to ensure someone who became an NCO knew how to lead troops.

By: Ragspierre

Ragspierre — Thu, 05 Jun 2014 10:57:59 +0000

Deputy Assistant Secretary for Public Affairs at the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development, Brandon Friedman, has been tweeting that Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl may deserve “sympathy” because of the possibility that “his platoon was long on psychopaths and short on leadership.”

If that were the case, he argues, “the soldiers in his platoon would have all the more reason to smear him publicly now.”

Wow. These pukes know no shame whatsoever.

By: VetHusbandFather

VetHusbandFather — Thu, 05 Jun 2014 10:19:04 +0000

Your friend is dead on right, and it pisses me off that they are treating this as if the investigation is just now starting. I can’t believe how mislead your average person is on this. Yesterday someone told me they didn’t think he was a deserter And asked what I thought. At this point that shouldn’t even be a question, the military already has the evidence in. The article also makes it seem like it’s Bs word against his platoon mates word, but it’s not, there are plenty of irrefutable facts in this case.

By: Worried_in_USA

Worried_in_USA — Thu, 05 Jun 2014 09:03:17 +0000

UK’s Daily Mail has photos of the dead American soldiers due to Bergdahl leaving his post.

Here’s the June 3, 2014 Headline: : “Revealed: Hunt for Bowe Bergdahl left troops unprotected in infamous Afghan battle that left EIGHT U.S. soldiers dead and 22 wounded and produced two Medal of Honor recipients”.

The United States media is generally worthless on stories like this: puppets like Pravda. Go to London if you want thorough reporting when American liberal politicians don’t want you to find out what they did.

By: Arminius

Arminius — Thu, 05 Jun 2014 09:03:06 +0000

Not that wandering off to smoke hash is particularly admirable. But it would be a lesser charge.

By: Arminius

Arminius — Thu, 05 Jun 2014 09:01:20 +0000

Red, if you’re gone for more than 30 days you’re classified as a deserter as opposed to AWOL (or UA if you’re in the Sea Services). Still, it’s not a slam dunk at a court martial. Somebody might have intended to return to US jurisdiction, but have been prevented from doing so. Maybe Bergdahl just wandered off to smoke some hash, and thought he could get back in time for morning muster. If that’s the cae he was just UA. On the other hand, someone might have gone missing for less than 30 days, and could still be convicted of desertion as opposed to going AWOL if you can prove they burned all their bridges and never intended to come back.

By: redc1c4

redc1c4 — Thu, 05 Jun 2014 08:40:25 +0000

PS: unless things have changed recently (i was in 83-03) promotions are TIG up to SPC/E-4 in the Army, unless you’re a dirtbag.

By: redc1c4

redc1c4 — Thu, 05 Jun 2014 05:58:23 +0000

if they don’t at least prosecute this POS, they’re going to have a hard time throwing the book at any other GI who’s AWOL/Deserted.

(IIRC, AWOL turns into desertion after you’re gone 30 days w/o permission… that’s what i ‘member, but since i was never AWOL, i wouldn’t know for sure %-)

By: redc1c4

redc1c4 — Thu, 05 Jun 2014 05:55:44 +0000

i’ll be happy to donate a bullet to him…

By: redc1c4

redc1c4 — Thu, 05 Jun 2014 05:54:57 +0000

as a friend of mine, who is a lawyer, and a serving officer, said, they already have the 15-6 and the Article 32 from when he disappeared…

they just don;t like what they say, and they’re trying to find away around that small problem.

unfortunately for them, the truth is now out there, and they can’t pretend otherwise.

By: redc1c4

redc1c4 — Thu, 05 Jun 2014 05:51:29 +0000

then think of how bad the next scandal is going to hve to be to top *this* fiasco

By: redc1c4

redc1c4 — Thu, 05 Jun 2014 05:50:20 +0000

deserters are criminals, not POWs…

By: Jubedgy

Jubedgy — Thu, 05 Jun 2014 04:48:20 +0000

IIRC, when in a POW status, you are promoted as if you had good performance. In the Navy auto TIR promotion stops at E3 as well, but that assumption allows normal career progression.

By: Jubedgy

Jubedgy — Thu, 05 Jun 2014 04:44:17 +0000

His talking would have occurred in closer temporal proximity to his capture…five years ago. Anecdotal evidence from his previous units indicated he already “talked”, so…why did we risk those lives again?

I agree that, given the statements involved, he must be tried. But if found guilty…if any of those five are involved in further attacks on US citizens then their blood is on the administration’s hands.