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	<title>Comments on: SCOTUS Is Unanimous: Warrants Needed for Cellphones</title>
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		<title>By: sequester</title>
		<link>http://legalinsurrection.com/2014/06/scotus-is-unanimous-warrants-needed-for-cellphones/comment-page-1/#comment-525460</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sequester]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2014 15:35:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Prior to yesterday&#039;s ruling, &lt;a href=&#039;http://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/556/07-542/&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; Arizona v Gant&lt;/a&gt; allowed the police to search for evidence related to the crime the person was being arrested for.  

Funny, I did discuss that very issue with some local officers this morning. They all said they would never go so far as to insist on seeing a cell phone for something so minor as a texting ticket.  

If  you face an officer who would go that far, there are practical considerations. He is not as well trained or predictable as the officers I spoke with, or the police suspect you of some other crime.  In theory he could charge you with obstruction of justice. You could then be subjected to a custodial arrest. At that point, you are looking at legal fees far in excess of the fine for texting.    

Under yesterday&#039;s ruling, the policeman still retains the right to seize the cell phone and obtain a search warrant (extreme for something so minor).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prior to yesterday&#8217;s ruling, <a href='http://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/556/07-542/' rel="nofollow"> Arizona v Gant</a> allowed the police to search for evidence related to the crime the person was being arrested for.  </p>
<p>Funny, I did discuss that very issue with some local officers this morning. They all said they would never go so far as to insist on seeing a cell phone for something so minor as a texting ticket.  </p>
<p>If  you face an officer who would go that far, there are practical considerations. He is not as well trained or predictable as the officers I spoke with, or the police suspect you of some other crime.  In theory he could charge you with obstruction of justice. You could then be subjected to a custodial arrest. At that point, you are looking at legal fees far in excess of the fine for texting.    </p>
<p>Under yesterday&#8217;s ruling, the policeman still retains the right to seize the cell phone and obtain a search warrant (extreme for something so minor).</p>
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		<title>By: American Human</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[American Human]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2014 12:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was thinking this over yesterday and I&#039;d like to ask:
If a policeman pulls me over because he thinks I&#039;ve been texting while driving, can I refuse to provide my phone for him to view?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was thinking this over yesterday and I&#8217;d like to ask:<br />
If a policeman pulls me over because he thinks I&#8217;ve been texting while driving, can I refuse to provide my phone for him to view?</p>
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		<title>By: theduchessofkitty</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[theduchessofkitty]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2014 06:01:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Fourth Amendment: it says what it means and it means what it says.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Fourth Amendment: it says what it means and it means what it says.</p>
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		<title>By: Tennessee Thursday &#124; Palin4America</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tennessee Thursday &#124; Palin4America]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2014 05:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] unanimous SCOTUS [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] unanimous SCOTUS [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: sequester</title>
		<link>http://legalinsurrection.com/2014/06/scotus-is-unanimous-warrants-needed-for-cellphones/comment-page-1/#comment-525334</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sequester]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2014 20:25:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Court also addressed your wallet concern:
&lt;blockquote&gt;
Modern cell phones, as a category, implicate privacy concerns far beyond those implicated by the search of a cigarette pack, a wallet, or a purse ...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Court also addressed your wallet concern:</p>
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Modern cell phones, as a category, implicate privacy concerns far beyond those implicated by the search of a cigarette pack, a wallet, or a purse &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: sequester</title>
		<link>http://legalinsurrection.com/2014/06/scotus-is-unanimous-warrants-needed-for-cellphones/comment-page-1/#comment-525330</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sequester]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2014 20:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[These consolidated rulings give one clear message: &lt;b&gt;get a search warrant&lt;/b&gt;. The Court leaves in place the very narrow &lt;I&gt;exigent circumstances&lt;/I&gt; exception. It explicitly  refuses to even apply the  &lt;I&gt;Gant exception&lt;/I&gt;. Gant allows warrantless searches for specific evidence related to the crime the person in a car is  being arrested for. For example prior to today, under Gant a police officer making a reckless driving arrest could have used Gant to support searching a cell phone for text messages to prove the person was texting.

The view of the Court is that your life may be on the cell phone and almost any search is too intrusive absent a warrant.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These consolidated rulings give one clear message: <b>get a search warrant</b>. The Court leaves in place the very narrow <i>exigent circumstances</i> exception. It explicitly  refuses to even apply the  <i>Gant exception</i>. Gant allows warrantless searches for specific evidence related to the crime the person in a car is  being arrested for. For example prior to today, under Gant a police officer making a reckless driving arrest could have used Gant to support searching a cell phone for text messages to prove the person was texting.</p>
<p>The view of the Court is that your life may be on the cell phone and almost any search is too intrusive absent a warrant.</p>
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		<title>By: MouseTheLuckyDog</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MouseTheLuckyDog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2014 18:39:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let me clarify, it seems to mean that police cannot examine a persons phone as a means of identification.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me clarify, it seems to mean that police cannot examine a persons phone as a means of identification.</p>
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		<title>By: MouseTheLuckyDog</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MouseTheLuckyDog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2014 18:37:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ow wow. Sounds like Wurie basically says you cannot use a phone as a means if identification.

Does that mean cops can&#039;t open you wallet and check your drivers license?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ow wow. Sounds like Wurie basically says you cannot use a phone as a means if identification.</p>
<p>Does that mean cops can&#8217;t open you wallet and check your drivers license?</p>
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		<title>By: Immolate</title>
		<link>http://legalinsurrection.com/2014/06/scotus-is-unanimous-warrants-needed-for-cellphones/comment-page-1/#comment-525310</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Immolate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2014 18:32:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good outcome. Police should have a legal reason for everything they search, especially the evidentiary treasure trove that is a smart phone.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good outcome. Police should have a legal reason for everything they search, especially the evidentiary treasure trove that is a smart phone.</p>
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		<title>By: sequester</title>
		<link>http://legalinsurrection.com/2014/06/scotus-is-unanimous-warrants-needed-for-cellphones/comment-page-1/#comment-525305</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sequester]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2014 17:37:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[According to the &lt;a href=&#039;https://postalinspectors.uspis.gov/contactUs/faq.aspx&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;US Postal Service&lt;/a&gt;:
&lt;blockquote&gt;
First-Class letters and parcels are protected against search and seizure under the Fourth Amendment to the Constitution, and, as such, cannot be opened without a search warrant. If there is probable cause to believe the contents of a First-Class letter or parcel violate federal law, Postal Inspectors can obtain a search warrant to open the mailpiece. Other classes of mail do not contain private correspondence, and therefore may be opened without a warrant.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Once again, can you provide some case-law?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to the <a href='https://postalinspectors.uspis.gov/contactUs/faq.aspx' rel="nofollow">US Postal Service</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>
First-Class letters and parcels are protected against search and seizure under the Fourth Amendment to the Constitution, and, as such, cannot be opened without a search warrant. If there is probable cause to believe the contents of a First-Class letter or parcel violate federal law, Postal Inspectors can obtain a search warrant to open the mailpiece. Other classes of mail do not contain private correspondence, and therefore may be opened without a warrant.
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<p>Once again, can you provide some case-law?</p>
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		<title>By: sequester</title>
		<link>http://legalinsurrection.com/2014/06/scotus-is-unanimous-warrants-needed-for-cellphones/comment-page-1/#comment-525303</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sequester]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2014 17:19:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This specific issue was addressed in United States v Wurie petition. The answer is a resounding NO!!!.  Warrant first except under exigent circumstances.
&lt;blockquote&gt;
Wurie’s person. The one at issue here was a “flip phone,” a kind of phone that is flipped open for use and that generally has asmaller range of features than a smart phone. Five to ten minutes after arriving at the station, the officers noticedthat the phone was repeatedly receiving calls from a source identified as “my house” on the phone’s external screen. A few minutes later, they opened the phone andsaw a photograph of a woman and a baby set as thephone’s wallpaper. They pressed one button on the phoneto access its call log, then another button to determine the phone number associated with the “my house” label. Theynext used an online phone directory to trace that phone number to an apartment building.

When the officers went to the building, they saw Wurie’s name on a mailbox and observed through a window a woman who resembled the woman in the photograph on Wurie’s phone. They secured the apartment while obtaining a &lt;b&gt; search warrant&lt;/b&gt; and, upon later executing the warrant, found and seized 215 grams of crack cocaine, marijuana, drug paraphernalia, a firearm and ammunition, and cash.
Wurie
&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This specific issue was addressed in United States v Wurie petition. The answer is a resounding NO!!!.  Warrant first except under exigent circumstances.</p>
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Wurie’s person. The one at issue here was a “flip phone,” a kind of phone that is flipped open for use and that generally has asmaller range of features than a smart phone. Five to ten minutes after arriving at the station, the officers noticedthat the phone was repeatedly receiving calls from a source identified as “my house” on the phone’s external screen. A few minutes later, they opened the phone andsaw a photograph of a woman and a baby set as thephone’s wallpaper. They pressed one button on the phoneto access its call log, then another button to determine the phone number associated with the “my house” label. Theynext used an online phone directory to trace that phone number to an apartment building.</p>
<p>When the officers went to the building, they saw Wurie’s name on a mailbox and observed through a window a woman who resembled the woman in the photograph on Wurie’s phone. They secured the apartment while obtaining a <b> search warrant</b> and, upon later executing the warrant, found and seized 215 grams of crack cocaine, marijuana, drug paraphernalia, a firearm and ammunition, and cash.<br />
Wurie
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		<title>By: tom swift</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tom swift]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2014 17:18:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Your letters have never been protected, at least while it&#039;s &quot;mail&quot; - that is, in transit. Once received and dumped in a box somewhere, they arguably become part of your &quot;papers&quot;. But while en route, no. The Postmaster General and his minions have the specific right - or, sometimes, duty - to examine your mail.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your letters have never been protected, at least while it&#8217;s &#8220;mail&#8221; &#8211; that is, in transit. Once received and dumped in a box somewhere, they arguably become part of your &#8220;papers&#8221;. But while en route, no. The Postmaster General and his minions have the specific right &#8211; or, sometimes, duty &#8211; to examine your mail.</p>
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		<title>By: Humphrey's Executor</title>
		<link>http://legalinsurrection.com/2014/06/scotus-is-unanimous-warrants-needed-for-cellphones/comment-page-1/#comment-525299</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Humphrey's Executor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2014 17:04:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What if the police officer is conducting a search incident to a lawful arrest for drug dealing.  He has the cell phone in his hand, and it rings.  Can he answer it?  Can he look at the display to seek who&#039;s calling?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What if the police officer is conducting a search incident to a lawful arrest for drug dealing.  He has the cell phone in his hand, and it rings.  Can he answer it?  Can he look at the display to seek who&#8217;s calling?</p>
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		<title>By: sequester</title>
		<link>http://legalinsurrection.com/2014/06/scotus-is-unanimous-warrants-needed-for-cellphones/comment-page-1/#comment-525294</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sequester]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2014 16:53:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Can you provide some case law for ...
&lt;blockquote&gt;
they certainly could have protected your letters if they had wanted to
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
The text of the Fourth Amendment protects papers:
&lt;blockquote&gt;
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you provide some case law for &#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>
they certainly could have protected your letters if they had wanted to
</p></blockquote>
<p>The text of the Fourth Amendment protects papers:</p>
<blockquote><p>
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
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		<title>By: JBourque</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JBourque]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2014 16:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is great. Rummaging through a cell phone without a warrant is no better than breaking the seal on a sealed letter circa 1795 without a warrant. At least make people work a little bit. It&#039;s not as if judges won&#039;t hand the warrants out like candy anyway, but at least there&#039;s some tiny speed bump preventing doing this on a mass scale. 

Except at international borders of course. But that&#039;s separate.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is great. Rummaging through a cell phone without a warrant is no better than breaking the seal on a sealed letter circa 1795 without a warrant. At least make people work a little bit. It&#8217;s not as if judges won&#8217;t hand the warrants out like candy anyway, but at least there&#8217;s some tiny speed bump preventing doing this on a mass scale. </p>
<p>Except at international borders of course. But that&#8217;s separate.</p>
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		<title>By: tom swift</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tom swift]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2014 16:38:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interestingly enough, the Fourth Amendment does &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; protect your communications in general. The drafters were prodigious letter-writers; they certainly could have protected your letters if they had wanted to, and from letters, your phone communications would be an obvious extension, along with telegrams, faxes, e-mails, etc. But lacking Constitutional protection for your letters, it&#039;s hard to see protection of your phone, as a communications device, being a Constitutional issue. The key concept here seems to be that your phone can have a great deal of personal information on it, making it conceptually part of your &quot;papers&quot;, rather than just a communications device. And as part of your &quot;papers&quot; it is protected.    

Interesting chain of reasoning. And apparently pretty compelling, if all nine of them signed on.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interestingly enough, the Fourth Amendment does <i>not</i> protect your communications in general. The drafters were prodigious letter-writers; they certainly could have protected your letters if they had wanted to, and from letters, your phone communications would be an obvious extension, along with telegrams, faxes, e-mails, etc. But lacking Constitutional protection for your letters, it&#8217;s hard to see protection of your phone, as a communications device, being a Constitutional issue. The key concept here seems to be that your phone can have a great deal of personal information on it, making it conceptually part of your &#8220;papers&#8221;, rather than just a communications device. And as part of your &#8220;papers&#8221; it is protected.    </p>
<p>Interesting chain of reasoning. And apparently pretty compelling, if all nine of them signed on.</p>
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		<title>By: joethefatman</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[joethefatman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2014 15:55:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This makes me happy. 
I&#039;m very glad that a certain cop that writes at another site is going to be all butthurt about it as well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This makes me happy.<br />
I&#8217;m very glad that a certain cop that writes at another site is going to be all butthurt about it as well.</p>
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