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	<title>Comments on: Martha Robertson has no explanation for mangling VA scandal facts (#NY23)</title>
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		<title>By: pystew</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pystew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2014 04:10:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ragspierre  and all, The Senate passed the bill I spoke of earlier--you know the Bernie Sanders/John McCain bill that gave needed funds to the VA for Veterans health care.This is the one that the GOP filibustered in February.  It points out the Martha was right--the GOP blocked the funding for the Veterans. You guys do a good job of twisting the truth. 

BTW, there were only 3 NO votes this time (at least they got to vote, unlike last time when the GOP--may I repeat--the GOP blocked it. Of course the  NO votes were from GOP.

The House passed their version with ZERO No Votes. The tow Chambers will meet and agree on the final bill.

Here&#039;s the story incase FOX News forgot to let you know about it:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2014/06/11/senate-passes-veterans-bill/10330951/

Don&#039;t bother thanking me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ragspierre  and all, The Senate passed the bill I spoke of earlier&#8211;you know the Bernie Sanders/John McCain bill that gave needed funds to the VA for Veterans health care.This is the one that the GOP filibustered in February.  It points out the Martha was right&#8211;the GOP blocked the funding for the Veterans. You guys do a good job of twisting the truth. </p>
<p>BTW, there were only 3 NO votes this time (at least they got to vote, unlike last time when the GOP&#8211;may I repeat&#8211;the GOP blocked it. Of course the  NO votes were from GOP.</p>
<p>The House passed their version with ZERO No Votes. The tow Chambers will meet and agree on the final bill.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the story incase FOX News forgot to let you know about it:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2014/06/11/senate-passes-veterans-bill/10330951/" rel="nofollow">http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2014/06/11/senate-passes-veterans-bill/10330951/</a></p>
<p>Don&#8217;t bother thanking me.</p>
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		<title>By: Ragspierre</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ragspierre]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2014 00:49:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[But while doctor shortages and increasing patient loads may be at the root of the delays, neither explain the corrosive culture at certain VA facilities. This culture thought it was okay to set self-deluding goals to see new patients within 14 days. It encouraged and tolerated employees who falsified records to cover up delays.

That goes deep into the DNA of an agency and will need to be changed before other problems can be tackled successfully. So will a top-down management style that made most decisions in Washington and ordered local facilities — in many different parts of the country, with different needs and different resources — to carry them out.&#124;But while doctor shortages and increasing patient loads may be at the root of the delays, neither explain the corrosive culture at certain VA facilities. This culture thought it was okay to set self-deluding goals to see new patients within 14 days. It encouraged and tolerated employees who falsified records to cover up delays.

That goes deep into the DNA of an agency and will need to be changed before other problems can be tackled successfully. So will a top-down management style that made most decisions in Washington and ordered local facilities — in many different parts of the country, with different needs and different resources — to carry them out.
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From your editorial.  Which is, at best, an opinion piece.

And NO, lying SOS, Fox did not fail to report any of that.  (You&#039;d know if you watch, SOS.)

I understand that the demands are, in fact, DOWN from their peak, with vastly increased funding.

Phoenix was not an aberration, as you&#039;d like to pretend.  

Oh, and the wars were NOT &quot;Bush&#039;s wars&quot;, again liar.  

But I see you.  You LOVE BIG GOVERNMENT.  And the VA will always be what it is, maybe with some improvement at the margins, because it is, by its nature, a bureaucratic system afflicted by predicted and systematic FUBAR.

And, as always, your solution is to throw more money in the maw.

What a moron.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But while doctor shortages and increasing patient loads may be at the root of the delays, neither explain the corrosive culture at certain VA facilities. This culture thought it was okay to set self-deluding goals to see new patients within 14 days. It encouraged and tolerated employees who falsified records to cover up delays.</p>
<p>That goes deep into the DNA of an agency and will need to be changed before other problems can be tackled successfully. So will a top-down management style that made most decisions in Washington and ordered local facilities — in many different parts of the country, with different needs and different resources — to carry them out.|But while doctor shortages and increasing patient loads may be at the root of the delays, neither explain the corrosive culture at certain VA facilities. This culture thought it was okay to set self-deluding goals to see new patients within 14 days. It encouraged and tolerated employees who falsified records to cover up delays.</p>
<p>That goes deep into the DNA of an agency and will need to be changed before other problems can be tackled successfully. So will a top-down management style that made most decisions in Washington and ordered local facilities — in many different parts of the country, with different needs and different resources — to carry them out.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>From your editorial.  Which is, at best, an opinion piece.</p>
<p>And NO, lying SOS, Fox did not fail to report any of that.  (You&#8217;d know if you watch, SOS.)</p>
<p>I understand that the demands are, in fact, DOWN from their peak, with vastly increased funding.</p>
<p>Phoenix was not an aberration, as you&#8217;d like to pretend.  </p>
<p>Oh, and the wars were NOT &#8220;Bush&#8217;s wars&#8221;, again liar.  </p>
<p>But I see you.  You LOVE BIG GOVERNMENT.  And the VA will always be what it is, maybe with some improvement at the margins, because it is, by its nature, a bureaucratic system afflicted by predicted and systematic FUBAR.</p>
<p>And, as always, your solution is to throw more money in the maw.</p>
<p>What a moron.</p>
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		<title>By: pystew</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pystew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2014 19:57:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The editorial  was in the Elmira Star Gazette on June 3, it was in the USA Today on June 1--here is the link. http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2014/05/30/veterans-health-scandal-resign-editorials-debates/9769541/

Did Fox News forget to report that information? If you believe that the Phoenix VA had all the doctors, space and equipment the needed, I have a bridge to sell you. 

The fact is that the Republicans&#039; filibuster stopped $20 billion from going to the Veteran Administration  to build more hospitals for the returning Veterans. That coupled with the other Bush war victims and those from the Viet Nam era needs a lot of support...and there is a lack money for these great Americans. 

Maybe we&#039;ll be lucky and get enough Moderate Republicans to join the Democrats to pass a bill to serve those who have served our country, instead of what happened last February. 

http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/senate/199480-gop-blocks-veterans-bill]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The editorial  was in the Elmira Star Gazette on June 3, it was in the USA Today on June 1&#8211;here is the link. <a href="http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2014/05/30/veterans-health-scandal-resign-editorials-debates/9769541/" rel="nofollow">http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2014/05/30/veterans-health-scandal-resign-editorials-debates/9769541/</a></p>
<p>Did Fox News forget to report that information? If you believe that the Phoenix VA had all the doctors, space and equipment the needed, I have a bridge to sell you. </p>
<p>The fact is that the Republicans&#8217; filibuster stopped $20 billion from going to the Veteran Administration  to build more hospitals for the returning Veterans. That coupled with the other Bush war victims and those from the Viet Nam era needs a lot of support&#8230;and there is a lack money for these great Americans. </p>
<p>Maybe we&#8217;ll be lucky and get enough Moderate Republicans to join the Democrats to pass a bill to serve those who have served our country, instead of what happened last February. </p>
<p><a href="http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/senate/199480-gop-blocks-veterans-bill" rel="nofollow">http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/senate/199480-gop-blocks-veterans-bill</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ragspierre</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ragspierre]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2014 10:54:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OMG, you brought up a lot of bullshit and other general lies.

Point out one &quot;fact&quot; that has any bearing on Jacobson&#039;s piece, you lying POS.

BTW, I looked for a June 3 editorial in USAToday and didn&#039;t find one.

NONE of the deaths of vets at Phoenix were attributable to a lack of funding or docs.

Where they, you lying SOS?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG, you brought up a lot of bullshit and other general lies.</p>
<p>Point out one &#8220;fact&#8221; that has any bearing on Jacobson&#8217;s piece, you lying POS.</p>
<p>BTW, I looked for a June 3 editorial in USAToday and didn&#8217;t find one.</p>
<p>NONE of the deaths of vets at Phoenix were attributable to a lack of funding or docs.</p>
<p>Where they, you lying SOS?</p>
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		<title>By: pystew</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pystew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2014 03:01:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OMG, someone brings up facts that you don&#039;t like! Remain in your own echo chamber as our county continues to decline toward a third word status. 

Point out one fact that I mentioned that is incorrect.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG, someone brings up facts that you don&#8217;t like! Remain in your own echo chamber as our county continues to decline toward a third word status. </p>
<p>Point out one fact that I mentioned that is incorrect.</p>
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		<title>By: Ragspierre</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ragspierre]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2014 17:21:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Go away, troll.

You are a liar.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go away, troll.</p>
<p>You are a liar.</p>
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		<title>By: pystew</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pystew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2014 17:05:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You are doing a good job of distorting the facts. You &quot;Cherry Pick&quot; your data and expect the rest of us to just believe you. You said that the funding tripled since 2001--that was 13 years  and two wars ago.  Veterans are being served from the Viet Nam era to the present Bush&#039;s Wars that our president has ended or will be ending. The USA Today&#039;s editorial of June 3 said that the VA &quot;is grossly overloaded with veterans under treatment and seeking to get through the door.&quot; There are 400 openings for doctors, the top pay for VAS doctors is less than half the median for doctors in the private sector. Don&#039;t forget it was the Senate Republicans who filibustered the $20 billions to improve the VA system. Don&#039;t worry, now that this &#039;SCANDAL&quot; and Bernie Sanders has re-introduced his bill for the VA, and John McCain has no co-sponsored a very similar bill, we&#039;ll see who filibusters it.

I know you are doing your job---trying to shore up your base for Reed, but most people see through it. 

Martha was right.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are doing a good job of distorting the facts. You &#8220;Cherry Pick&#8221; your data and expect the rest of us to just believe you. You said that the funding tripled since 2001&#8211;that was 13 years  and two wars ago.  Veterans are being served from the Viet Nam era to the present Bush&#8217;s Wars that our president has ended or will be ending. The USA Today&#8217;s editorial of June 3 said that the VA &#8220;is grossly overloaded with veterans under treatment and seeking to get through the door.&#8221; There are 400 openings for doctors, the top pay for VAS doctors is less than half the median for doctors in the private sector. Don&#8217;t forget it was the Senate Republicans who filibustered the $20 billions to improve the VA system. Don&#8217;t worry, now that this &#8216;SCANDAL&#8221; and Bernie Sanders has re-introduced his bill for the VA, and John McCain has no co-sponsored a very similar bill, we&#8217;ll see who filibusters it.</p>
<p>I know you are doing your job&#8212;trying to shore up your base for Reed, but most people see through it. </p>
<p>Martha was right.</p>
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		<title>By: dmacleo</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dmacleo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2014 12:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[IMO those that complain about TP candidates like the direction the country is moving in.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IMO those that complain about TP candidates like the direction the country is moving in.</p>
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		<title>By: Henry Hawkins</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Henry Hawkins]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2014 21:22:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Given the state of this country, this notion that GOP establishment incumbents and candidates and Tea Party candidates may be sorted and separated on the basis of competency is absolutely laughable.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Given the state of this country, this notion that GOP establishment incumbents and candidates and Tea Party candidates may be sorted and separated on the basis of competency is absolutely laughable.</p>
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		<title>By: Ragspierre</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ragspierre]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2014 20:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And, please...

nobody...ever again...recite the canard about inept TEA party types.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And, please&#8230;</p>
<p>nobody&#8230;ever again&#8230;recite the canard about inept TEA party types.</p>
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